Bottleneck

[Nihaar]

Ok so my current rig is

I5-4460@3.2ghz

GTX 950

16 GB ram

1 tb harddrive

I know for a fact that my pc is bottleneck and was wondering if upgrading to a 1050 ti will be good or not. Will I see better gaming performance? Etc.

[Streetguru]

9 minutes ago, Nihaar said:

 

Bottlenecked how? What game? What monitor resolution/refresh rate?

It's a terrible time to buy GPUs.

[xAcid9]

Your proc should be fine till 1060 level.

[Nihaar]

18 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Bottlenecked how? What game? What monitor resolution/refresh rate?

It's a terrible time to buy GPUs.

Just gaming in general I play a variety of games but specifically Assassin's Creed Origins. Monitors resolution is 1080p and refresh rate is 60hz. Yea I heard about the GPU prices going up. Any specific reason for that?

[Nihaar]

4 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Your proc should be fine till 1060 level.

What do you mean

[Snapperx]

2 minutes ago, Nihaar said:

Any specific reason for that?

Miners like to buy GPUs and a lot of them too. Demand and Supply and the prices are up. Still you will be able to get a 1080 Ti OC from Asus for less than 1000€ if you keep looking.

[Streetguru]

4 minutes ago, Nihaar said:

Just gaming in general I play a variety of games but specifically Assassin's Creed Origins. Monitors resolution is 1080p and refresh rate is 60hz. Yea I heard about the GPU prices going up. Any specific reason for that?

Wait for Ryzen 2 before upgrading your CPU to anything, but your i5 should be able to do about 60fps in that game.

[Nihaar]

3 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Wait for Ryzen 2 before upgrading your CPU to anything, but your i5 should be able to do about 60fps in that game.

Well I wanted to upgrade my gpu and was wondering if there was a significant difference between the 950 and 1050 ti, cuz the 1050ti will only bottleneck at 2% while 950 does at 7%

[SlicerZrT]

I've been using a 1050 ti since the beginning of the year, before the prices shot up like a rocket and I've been able to play games at 1080p, even 4K-(using Nvidia's DSR) with fairly high settings.

in my opinion however. If you can save up more, rather try and get a 1060 (6GB) or 1070 ti. their probably the best, if your planning on gaming on a single screen.

[Streetguru]

 

1 minute ago, Nihaar said:

cuz the 1050ti will only bottleneck at 2% while 950 does at 7%

If you're getting that from some website do not use that worthless website, all that matters are real benchmarks.

In any event, save your money for next generation GPUs, it's not worth upgrading your GPU right now. You'll get more performance for your money later.

[Nihaar]

7 hours ago, Streetguru said:

 

If you're getting that from some website do not use that worthless website, all that matters are real benchmarks.

In any event, save your money for next generation GPUs, it's not worth upgrading your GPU right now. You'll get more performance for your money later.

I will do that, thank you 

[stealth80]

People are throwing the terms "bottleneck" around without really understanding what it is - you have offered no evidence of bottlenecking, its just the new term that's appeared since Pascal release.

Bottleneck is the result of mismatched hardware, generally between CPU, GPU and monitor - some examples

 

1. A low spec/low IPC/low thread CPU matched with a powerful current gen GPU running low resolutions - This is traditional bottleneck, when you monitor the usage it will present itself as high CPU usage, typically 95%+ and GPU down around 50 - 60% utilisation. (this can also be an issue with single thread games such as BDO) - The best way to aid this is to increase texture detail or resolution to utilise more of the GPU power - it doesn't remove the CPU bottleneck, it just uses more of the power available from the GPU.

 

2. Massively powerful CPU with a mid range card - Not a bottleneck as such as the GPU will simply be getting all the info required but simply can't process everything quickly enough - only way to overcome this is to lower detail settings if FPS is below desired range.

 

3. FPS not matching or exceeding monitor refresh - No not a bottleneck, simple fact is that either you are running a game on too high settings or you are expecting too much from your system.

 

 

The simple thing is people need to buy a balanced system - there's no point buying a Threadrippper 1950X and a 1080ti and then running it on a 1080P 60hz screen, and vice versa, don't buy a 4k gaming screen and use a 6500 i5 paired with a RX470 and complain about poor FPS

 

Your system isn't bottlenecking, it's just a little dated now on what was originally mid range hard ware, it sucks, but this is technology. The 1050ti will certainly offer improvements over the 950 and would still be fairly balanced with that locked i5

 

[Nihaar]

On 3/25/2018 at 9:57 AM, stealth80 said:

People are throwing the terms "bottleneck" around without really understanding what it is - you have offered no evidence of bottlenecking, its just the new term that's appeared since Pascal release.

Bottleneck is the result of mismatched hardware, generally between CPU, GPU and monitor - some examples

 

1. A low spec/low IPC/low thread CPU matched with a powerful current gen GPU running low resolutions - This is traditional bottleneck, when you monitor the usage it will present itself as high CPU usage, typically 95%+ and GPU down around 50 - 60% utilisation. (this can also be an issue with single thread games such as BDO) - The best way to aid this is to increase texture detail or resolution to utilise more of the GPU power - it doesn't remove the CPU bottleneck, it just uses more of the power available from the CPU.

 

2. Massively powerful CPU with a mid range card - Not a bottleneck as such as the GPU will simply be getting all the info required but simply can't process everything quickly enough - only way to overcome this is to lower detail settings if FPS is below desired range.

 

3. FPS not matching or exceeding monitor refresh - No not a bottleneck, simple fact is that either you are running a game on too high settings or you are expecting too much from your system.

 

 

The simple thing is people need to buy a balanced system - there's no point buying a Threadrippper 1950X and a 1080ti and then running it on a 1080P 60hz screen, and vice versa, don't buy a 4k gaming screen and use a 6500 i5 paired with a RX470 and complain about poor FPS

 

Your system isn't bottlenecking, it's just a little dated now on what was originally mid range hard ware, it sucks, but this is technology. The 1050ti will certainly offer improvements over the 950 and would still be fairly balanced with that locked i5

 

This helped alot. Thank you!