First time builder, plz help!

[moejams741]

Hey guys and gals, this is my first attempt at building a PC. I know just the basics, but enough to get around. I'm looking for a solid gaming rig that I would also be using for college work and the usual Twitch/YouTube/Netflix and whatnot. I'm not too worried about being able to max out games, going 4k, or VR, but it would be a nice plus.

Location: USA

Budget: $1,000 - $1,300

Monitors: Only one for now

Peripherals: I'll need a solid gaming mouse and keyboard as well as speakers

OS: Windows

 

What I have so far: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wNWLkd

 

Please go easy on me

 

Edit: Going with i5 8400, went for some cheaper stuff and stock cooler.

Edited March 2, 2018 by moejams741
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[Canada EH]

No dont build that, build a Ryzen pc.

Go Ryzen 1600 with a B350 motherboard.

[Herman Mcpootis]

no need for thermal paste, the H7 has it already. i'd get some cheaper parts for a better gpu.

[moejams741]

2 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

No dont build that, build a Ryzen pc.

Go Ryzen 1600 with a B350 motherboard.

Thanks for the reply!

What's your reasoning? Pros over 1050ti or 1060?

[moejams741]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

no need for thermal paste, the H7 has it already. i'd get some cheaper parts for a better gpu.

Thanks for the tip.

What parts can I compromise on?

[Canada EH]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kbKQ7W

 

extra money to spend on 1060 if you wish, I put in 1050ti but theres $200-$400 extra to play wiff

 

2 minutes ago, moejams741 said:

Thanks for the reply!

What's your reasoning? Pros over 1050ti or 1060?

 

 

$930 including 1060, 1600, 550W, 1TB 7200rpm, 250GB SSD, cheap ass case, decent 2x4gb ram- https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sgbzyX

[moejams741]

1 minute ago, Canada EH said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kbKQ7W

 

extra money to spend on 1060 if you wish, I put in 1050ti but theres $200-$400 extra to play wiff

 

 

No idea why I thought AMD GPU when you said Ryzen... Thanks for the help

[Herman Mcpootis]

it'll be abit over compared to your previous list but:

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($188.90 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($167.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($41.98 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC55BT B1 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($33.89 @ OutletPC) 
Other: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1080 DirectX 12 GV-N1080WF3OC-8GD 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5X PCI Express 3.0 x16 SLI Support ATX Video Card, GIGABYTE GA-AX370-Gaming K5 (rev. 1.0) AM4 AMD X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard ($779.98)
Total: $1374.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-01 21:29 EST-0500

 

 

you can get os from reddit for $25.

[Canada EH]

1 minute ago, moejams741 said:

No idea why I thought AMD GPU when you said Ryzen... Thanks for the help

added fan, and o/s $1030ish

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MsLLkd

[Thermosman]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/scHZLJ 20 dollars over what your build was

[Canada EH]

Changed to the best mobo said by some oc'ing nerd on YT

Gigabyte K7

$1140 - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D4MQ7W

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D4MQ7W
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D4MQ7W/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($188.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AX370-Gaming K7 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($184.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($115.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Silicon Power - Slim S55 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($354.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill - BlackHawk ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($56.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM  120mm Fan  ($19.39 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1140.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-01 21:36 EST-0500

 

 

 

[moejams741]

16 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

Changed to the best mobo said by some oc'ing nerd on YT

Gigabyte K7

$1140 - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D4MQ7W

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D4MQ7W
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D4MQ7W/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($188.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AX370-Gaming K7 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($184.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($115.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Silicon Power - Slim S55 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($354.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill - BlackHawk ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($56.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM  120mm Fan  ($19.39 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1140.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-01 21:36 EST-0500

 

 

 

Still want 16gb RAM, just to future-proof, but I changed some other stuff too:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XdbzyX

[moejams741]

24 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

it'll be abit over compared to your previous list but:

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($188.90 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($167.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($41.98 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC55BT B1 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($33.89 @ OutletPC) 
Other: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1080 DirectX 12 GV-N1080WF3OC-8GD 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5X PCI Express 3.0 x16 SLI Support ATX Video Card, GIGABYTE GA-AX370-Gaming K5 (rev. 1.0) AM4 AMD X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard ($779.98)
Total: $1374.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-01 21:29 EST-0500

 

 

you can get os from reddit for $25.

I feel like the 1080 is a bit overkill for my budget, but I did change some stuff around

Any better? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XdbzyX

[Ωhmbreon]

7 minutes ago, moejams741 said:

Still want 16gb RAM, just to future-proof, but I changed some other stuff too:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XdbzyX

That looks very good, but I'd suggest getting a Gigabyte GA-AB350 Gaming 3 motherboard (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2pnG3C/gigabyte-ga-ab350-gaming-3-atx-am4-motherboard-ga-ab350-gaming-3). It is better for overclocking than the Tomahawk and comes with a few more features. I had a friend use a 1600 and that Gigabyte motherboard and they work together flawlessly. 

 

Also, if you want to save a few bucks, the stock cooler is very nice and has plenty of headroom for overclocking. My friend has his 1600 at 3.75GHz all cores with the stock cooler, and it is still quite cool.

[Ωhmbreon]

Another thing, I would highly reccomend you to get the 3000MHz version of your kit of RAM because the Zen arcitecture benefits hugely in games with DDR4-3000MHz vs lower speeds. It is here: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FNprxr/gskill-aegis-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-f43000c16d16gisb 

[moejams741]

7 minutes ago, Ωhmbreon said:

Another thing, I would highly reccomend you to get the 3000MHz version of your kit of RAM because the Zen arcitecture benefits hugely in games with DDR4-3000MHz vs lower speeds. It is here: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FNprxr/gskill-aegis-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-f43000c16d16gisb 

Done and done  

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kfhLkd

[Ωhmbreon]

One last thing after I looked through the GPU options. There is a larger version of your current video card for a bit more. It's entirely up to you to buy or not, but personally I prefer dual fan GPUs for quieter and cooler running temperatures and possibly higher overclocks if you overclock it (Plus better aestetics if that is important). If you don't plan to overclock, your current card should be fine.

 

Here it is: 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MDRFf7/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-6gb-acx-30-video-card-06g-p4-6262-kr 

 

[Canada EH]

You need memory that is atleast 2600 but 3000 is wisest!

[Ωhmbreon]

Sorry for doing this one at a time, but I have another edit. I'd suggest getting a power supply with 80+ Bronze rating because they tend to be more reliable. I found a good one here: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TgW9TW/seasonic-power-supply-m12ii520bronze 

 

Personally, I run a Seasonic power supply and I've been very happy with it. Plus, the one in the link is fully-modular, which helps with cable management and overall neatness. 

 

Also, where are you going to put the 80mm fan you have in the list? The case seems to come fully-loaded.

 

EDIT: This one is better: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B6XnTW/cooler-master-masterwatt-550w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-mpx-5501-amaab-us 

[Herman Mcpootis]

27 minutes ago, moejams741 said:

I feel like the 1080 is a bit overkill for my budget, but I did change some stuff around

Any better? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XdbzyX

i don't understand why you cheaped out on ram when it's only $1 in savings. the MX500 is better, and the W1 is crappy, get the masterwatt or a corsair cx instead.

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, Ωhmbreon said:

Sorry for doing this one at a time, but I have another edit. I'd suggest getting a power supply with 80+ Bronze rating because they tend to be more reliable. I found a good one here: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TgW9TW/seasonic-power-supply-m12ii520bronze 

 

Personally, I run a Seasonic power supply and I've been very happy with it. Plus, the one in the link is fully-modular, which helps with cable management and overall neatness. 

The M/S12s are old as dirt and missing multiple protections, not worth the price when similarly priced units are newer and much better.

[Ωhmbreon]

Just now, herman mcpootis said:

i don't understand why you cheaped out on ram when it's only $1 in savings. the MX500 is better, and the W1 is crappy, get the masterwatt or a corsair cx instead.

This is the latest list:

13 minutes ago, moejams741 said:

Done and done  

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kfhLkd

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

14 minutes ago, moejams741 said:

Done and done  

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kfhLkd

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.90 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($167.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($354.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($41.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC55BT B1 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($33.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1119.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-01 22:26 EST-0500

[Ωhmbreon]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.90 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($167.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($354.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($41.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC55BT B1 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($33.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1119.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-01 22:26 EST-0500

How are you going to cool it?

Plus, that MSI motherboard is very low-tier compared to the AM4 Gigabyte motherboard in his list, which is mid-range. I was also very unhappy with Gigabyte's Windforce 1060 when I helped a friend build a pc.

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, Ωhmbreon said:

How are you going to cool it?

Plus, that MSI motherboard is very low-tier compared to the AM4 Gigabyte motherboard in his list, which is mid-range. I was also very unhappy with Gigabyte's Windforce 1060 when I helped a friend build a pc.

locked i5s come with a stock cooler, and it doesn't matter muvh since the i5 can't be overclocked anyways.