Help on my build

[hohoho]

Hello,

 

I'm currently putting together a list for parts for my new system.

 

Just a few key details: 

Usage: light to medium gaming, light photo/ video editing, rendering, videoplayback etc.

Screen: not sure on it, probably 4k but gaming would be in 1080p

 

 

I've put together a list, but I still have lots of questions to be answered:

 

- i5 8400, i3 8350k, r5 1600 (which is the best fitting for my ideas?)

- Gigabyte/ Asus GTX 1050ti (pretty set on the type)

- 8/16 GB of DDR4 RAM 2133/2400 (anything to pay attention to?)

- ASRock Z370M Pro4/ Gigabyte Z370 D3H (both mATX, can you recommend a low priced mITX one?)

-  Samsung 850 EVO 250GB interne SSD & Seagate BarraCuda Computer 1TB HDD (pretty set, too)

- Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML120L (or is the Stock one sufficient?)

- be quiet! Pure Power 10 400W (or should it be modular for this case?)

- Corsair Air 240

 

 

Thank you very much for your help!

 

[LienusLateTips]

Location? Budget?

[themctipers]

ryzen loves higher clocked RAM. Get that if you're going ryzen.

 

id recommend r5 1600/whatever the zen+ equivalent is. 

 

Stock one should be sufficient. 

 

 

1080p at 4k is quite shit. I have a 4k monitor. It looks reasonable after a lot of AA but I'd rather just run it at 4k lowest than 1080p high. 

[hohoho]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

Location? Budget?

Location is Germany and Budget around 850/ 900 €

[hohoho]

2 minutes ago, themctipers said:

ryzen loves higher clocked RAM. Get that if you're going ryzen.

 

id recommend r5 1600/whatever the zen+ equivalent is. 

 

Stock one should be sufficient. 

 

 

1080p at 4k is quite shit. I have a 4k monitor. It looks reasonable after a lot of AA but I'd rather just run it at 4k lowest than 1080p high. 

okay, thank you!

 

for which reasons do you recommend the r5 1600?

 

[themctipers]

3 minutes ago, hohoho said:

okay, thank you!

 

for which reasons do you recommend the r5 1600?

 

Longvevity of the socket. AM4 is supported by AMD until at least 2020. 

 

Pick one: better performance now at the exchange of not being able to upgrade later in the future

slightly worse performance now at the exchange of being able to slot in the BEST AM4 CPU in 2/3 years time. 

[Energycore]

Just now, themctipers said:

Longvevity of the socket. AM4 is supported by AMD until at least 2020. 

 

Pick one: better performance now at the exchange of not being able to upgrade later in the future

slightly worse performance now at the exchange of being able to slot in the BEST AM4 CPU in 2/3 years time. 

The 1600 isn't actually worse at games with a 1050 Ti anyway so yeah, I'm behind this choice.

 

OP should try to get 16GB RAM but with the prices right now, 8 is fine. 8 today cost the same as 16 would have a year ago.

[themctipers]

Just now, Energycore said:

The 1600 isn't actually worse at games with a 1050 Ti anyway so yeah, I'm behind this choice.

 

OP should try to get 16GB RAM but with the prices right now, 8 is fine. 8 today cost the same as 16 would have a year ago.

I know

its slightly behind the 8700k though in IPC, by like 2/3%.

 

Technically slower. Also the 8700k can clock higher than the 1600 with overclock. 

Doesn't really matter though in FPS, or system responsiveness, or CPU demanding tasks that isn't cinebench. 

[hohoho]

5 minutes ago, Energycore said:

The 1600 isn't actually worse at games with a 1050 Ti anyway so yeah, I'm behind this choice.

 

OP should try to get 16GB RAM but with the prices right now, 8 is fine. 8 today cost the same as 16 would have a year ago.

Oh, I didn't realise the thing with the GPU.

 

I heard of the RAM prices shooting up, but that much really astonishes me...

 

[hohoho]

5 minutes ago, themctipers said:

Longvevity of the socket. AM4 is supported by AMD until at least 2020. 

 

Pick one: better performance now at the exchange of not being able to upgrade later in the future

slightly worse performance now at the exchange of being able to slot in the BEST AM4 CPU in 2/3 years time. 

Any recommendations on the MB then?

 

[Energycore]

Just now, hohoho said:

Oh, I didn't realise the thing wothe the GPU.

 

I heard of the RAM prices shooting up, but that much really astonishes me...

Here's a list that I'd give you if you bought right now.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€179.00 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/White) CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€79.92 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (€94.46 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€75.90 @ Caseking)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card  (€186.23 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€42.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€46.59 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €705.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-18 20:01 CET+0100

 

The Crucial MX500 SSD is the same performance as the 850 EVO. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crucial-mx500-ssd-review-nand,5390-2.html

[hohoho]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

Here's a list that I'd give you if you bought right now.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€179.00 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/White) CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€79.92 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (€94.46 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€75.90 @ Caseking)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card  (€186.23 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€42.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€46.59 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €705.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-18 20:01 CET+0100

 

The Crucial MX500 SSD is the same performance as the 850 EVO. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crucial-mx500-ssd-review-nand,5390-2.html

I was actually pretty satatisfied with the Air 240.

 

Do you have a recommensation for an mATX/ mITX AM4 motherboard?

[Energycore]

Just now, hohoho said:

I was actually pretty satatisfied with the Air 240.

 

Do you have a recommensation for an mATX/ mITX AM4 motherboard?

Oh, cool you can keep the Air 240.

Grab the 1050 ti you want but don't pay more than 200euro for it.

 

Do this then -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€179.00 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€75.57 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (€94.46 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€75.90 @ Caseking)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card  (€186.23 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair - Air 240 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€89.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€46.59 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €747.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-18 20:10 CET+0100

 

The motherboard isn't great for overclocking's sake, but we're also on the stock cooler so the best we'll do here is 3.8-3.9GHz. Aim for that if you OC.

[LienusLateTips]

3 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€46.59 @ Mindfactory)ml

Pure Power 10 units lower than 400W are on a old Bronze group regulated platform.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€178.76 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/White) CPU Cooler  (€30.38 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€85.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (€94.46 @ Alza) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€75.90 @ Caseking) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card  (€186.23 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: SHARKOON - TG5 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Corsair - Vengeance 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€62.84 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €784.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-18 20:12 CET+0100

[LienusLateTips]

6 minutes ago, hohoho said:

I was actually pretty satatisfied with the Air 240.

 

Do you have a recommensation for an mATX/ mITX AM4 motherboard?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€178.76 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€75.57 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (€94.46 @ Alza) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€75.90 @ Caseking) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card  (€186.23 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Corsair - Air 240 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€89.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: Corsair - Vengeance 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€62.84 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €763.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-18 20:14 CET+0100

 

Pro4 is pretty ok I guess

[hohoho]

2 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Oh, cool you can keep the Air 240.

Grab the 1050 ti you want but don't pay more than 200euro for it.

 

Do this then -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€179.00 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€75.57 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (€94.46 @ Alza)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€75.90 @ Caseking)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card  (€186.23 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair - Air 240 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€89.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€46.59 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €747.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-18 20:10 CET+0100

 

The motherboard isn't great for overclocking's sake, but we're also on the stock cooler so the best we'll do here is 3.8-3.9GHz. Aim for that if you OC.

Okay, I wasn't planning to do any Overclocking for the start, but I might do it a little into using it.

 

And thank you soooo much for helping me! I really didn't expect it to be to quick... thanks

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

Pure Power 10 units lower than 400W are on a old Bronze group regulated platform.

Oh good catch thanks.

 

Though on a 300W PSU i don't think I'm worried about crossloading this unit.

[hohoho]

2 minutes ago, JDE said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€178.76 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€75.57 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (€94.46 @ Alza) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€75.90 @ Caseking) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card  (€186.23 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Corsair - Air 240 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€89.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: Corsair - Vengeance 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€62.84 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €763.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-18 20:14 CET+0100

 

Pro4 is pretty ok I guess

And thank YOU too!

 

[Energycore]

Just now, hohoho said:

Okay, I wasn't planning to do any Overclocking for the start, but I might do it a little into using it.

 

And thank you soooo much for helping me! I really didn't expect it to be to quick... thanks

Grab this PSU if you want something higher quality https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/fyhj4D/corsair-vengeance-400w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020106-de