r5 1600 voltage

[NicholasNicholasNicholas]

So currently im running at 3.8@1.35v on all cores with an nb voltage of 1.1. i want to get to 3.9 but when i test with cinebench it sometimes passes, sometimes doesnt. this is with 1.4 volts. what is the max voltage for ryzen? its on the stock cooler and currently at 3.8@1.35 i max in the 60s/50s

[STRMfrmXMN]

8 minutes ago, Nickathom said:

So currently im running at 3.8@1.35v on all cores with an nb voltage of 1.1. i want to get to 3.9 but when i test with cinebench it sometimes passes, sometimes doesnt. this is with 1.4 volts. what is the max voltage for ryzen? its on the stock cooler and currently at 3.8@1.35 i max in the 60s/50s

What motherboard are you using? Most motherboards cannot handle a sustained 1.4V without overheating VRMs.

 

Also there's a snowball's chance in hell of the stock cooler being able to do 1.4V.

[NicholasNicholasNicholas]

Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

What motherboard are you using? Most motherboards cannot handle a sustained 1.4V without overheating VRMs.

 

Also there's a snowball's chance in hell of the stock cooler being able to do 1.4V.

for the hell of it, i tried 1.4v at 3.8 and my temps maxed at 80 in cinebench. my mobo is kinda shitty, a msi b350 pro vdh

[STRMfrmXMN]

Just now, Nickathom said:

for the hell of it, i tried 1.4v at 3.8 and my temps maxed at 80 in cinebench. my mobo is kinda shitty, a msi b350 pro vdh

Yeah, don't put the thing at 1.4V, you'll melt your VRMs.

 

You really shouldn't be doing much OC with a hexacore on that board, but whatever you can reach at 1.35V is probably fine.

[NicholasNicholasNicholas]

Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

Yeah, don't put the thing at 1.4V, you'll melt your VRMs.

 

You really shouldn't be doing much OC with a hexacore on that board, but whatever you can reach at 1.35V is probably fine.

okay, thanks! also, just a question, does ryzen clock higher if its cooler like pascal for example? like, would it be worth buying a cryorig r1 or h7 or something

[STRMfrmXMN]

Just now, Nickathom said:

okay, thanks! also, just a question, does ryzen clock higher if its cooler like pascal for example? like, would it be worth buying a cryorig r1 or h7 or something

Yes, if your CPU supports XFR, which the non-X chips don't.

 

Don't bother getting an H7 for Ryzen. I have one and I ditched it because it doesn't cool much better than the stock cooler. The contact the thing makes is rather poor on Ryzen, for some reason.

[NicholasNicholasNicholas]

Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

Yeah, don't put the thing at 1.4V, you'll melt your VRMs.

 

You really shouldn't be doing much OC with a hexacore on that board, but whatever you can reach at 1.35V is probably fine.

also, just a question, how and why will the vrms fail? if i stick a fan on them will i be able to push more voltage?

[NicholasNicholasNicholas]

Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

Yes, if your CPU supports XFR, which the non-X chips don't.

 

Don't bother getting an H7 for Ryzen. I have one and I ditched it because it doesn't cool much better than the stock cooler. The contact the thing makes is rather poor on Ryzen, for some reason.

i dont mean if you have headroom, i do, but like pascal, if above around 80c, loses its ability to clock as high as it could if it were at 50c. is ryzen the same way?

[STRMfrmXMN]

Just now, Nickathom said:

also, just a question, how and why will the vrms fail? if i stick a fan on them will i be able to push more voltage?

The caps typically fail. They cannot handle over 105C for anything more than very, very short periods of time, without taking irreversible damage. You'll be able to smell when your VRM is too hot. 

 

Sure, if you put a fan right on there you can push more voltage, but a weaker VRM means you require more voltage for the same clocks, IE an Asus C6H might require 1.3V for your CPU to hit 3.8 while your board requires 1.35V

Just now, Nickathom said:

i dont mean if you have headroom, i do, but like pascal, if above around 80c, loses its ability to clock as high as it could if it were at 50c. is ryzen the same way?

Ryzen doesn't downclock unless it thermal throttles, like any other CPU. As I said, XFR is what you're talking about, but non-X chips (like yours) don't have XFR.

[NicholasNicholasNicholas]

Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

The caps typically fail. They cannot handle over 105C for anything more than very, very short periods of time, without taking irreversible damage. You'll be able to smell when your VRM is too hot. 

 

Sure, if you put a fan right on there you can push more voltage, but a weaker VRM means you require more voltage for the same clocks, IE an Asus C6H might require 1.3V for your CPU to hit 3.8 while your board requires 1.35V

Ryzen doesn't downclock unless it thermal throttles, like any other CPU. As I said, XFR is what you're talking about, but non-X chips (like yours) don't have XFR.

ah, alright. i guess no more overclocking for me


but its not that it throttles, its that pascal, if hot, literally cant reach clocks as high as it could if it were cool, so it crashes at a lower speed. it doesnt throttle, it just lowers the point at which you crash. is ryzen this way too

[STRMfrmXMN]

3 minutes ago, Nickathom said:

but its not that it throttles, its that pascal, if hot, literally cant reach clocks as high as it could if it were cool, so it crashes at a lower speed. it doesnt throttle, it just lowers the point at which you crash. is ryzen this way too

Are you talking about GPU boost? What you're saying doesn't make any sense.

[NicholasNicholasNicholas]

Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

Are you talking about GPU boost? What you're saying doesn't make any sense.

okay. when Pascal, the architecture, reaches high temperatures, you will require more voltage to get the same clockspeed than you would need to at a lower temperature.

[STRMfrmXMN]

Just now, Nickathom said:

okay. when Pascal, the architecture, reaches high temperatures, you will require more voltage to get the same clockspeed than you would need to at a lower temperature.

When Pascal reaches higher temperatures, GPU boost dictates that the GPU cannot clock super super high, so it clocks down. You can give the card more voltage in Afterburner and/or give it a higher temperature limit and it will have an easier time hitting those clocks.

 

So you're talking about GPU boost, but you're misunderstanding it.

Watch that one and see if that helps.

[NicholasNicholasNicholas]

Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

When Pascal reaches higher temperatures, GPU boost dictates that the GPU cannot clock super super high, so it clocks down. You can give the card more voltage in Afterburner and/or give it a higher temperature limit and it will have an easier time hitting those clocks.

 

So you're talking about GPU boost, but you're misunderstanding it.

Watch that one and see if that helps.

no
 

 

[STRMfrmXMN]

2 minutes ago, Nickathom said:

no
 

 

This is quite literally exactly what I'm talking about. Pascal, if you up the voltage required, the temperature tolerance, and up the fan speed, you can get a better clock because of the way GPU Boost 3.0 works. Had you watched JayzTwoCents' video on that, you'd see that.

[NicholasNicholasNicholas]

Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

This is quite literally exactly what I'm talking about. Pascal, if you up the voltage required, the temperature tolerance, and up the fan speed, you can get a better clock because of the way GPU Boost 3.0 works. Had you watched JayzTwoCents' video on that, you'd see that.

steve isnt talking about gpu boost. he is talking about how the architecture responds to voltage

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 minute ago, Nickathom said:

steve isnt talking about gpu boost. he is talking about how the architecture responds to voltage

*GPU BOOST 3.0 IS EXCLUSIVE TO NVIDIA'S PASCAL ARCHITECTURE*

 

*THIS IS HOW GPU BOOST 3.0 WORKS*

 

*CAN I BE ANY CLEARER*

 

As he said, when the GPU is at very low temperatures it will boost higher than it would at high, but still tolerable, temperatures, especially when allotted a higher power limit and temperature limit within a software like MSI Afterburner. Yes, that is very similar to how XFR works. Again, your CPU does not have XFR. Why is this even relevant to you?

[NicholasNicholasNicholas]

Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

*GPU BOOST 3.0 IS EXCLUSIVE TO NVIDIA'S PASCAL ARCHITECTURE*

 

*THIS IS HOW GPU BOOST 3.0 WORKS*

 

*CAN I BE ANY CLEARER*

 

As he said, when the GPU is at very low temperatures it will boost higher than it would at high, but still tolerable, temperatures, especially when allotted a higher power limit and temperature limit within a software like MSI Afterburner. Yes, that is very similar to how XFR works. Again, your CPU does not have XFR. Why is this even relevant to you?

is he not talking about manual overclocks?

[STRMfrmXMN]

6 minutes ago, Nickathom said:

is he not talking about manual overclocks?

GPU boost affects overclocking. It affects non-overclocked cards. It is always on.

[Ebony Falcon]

8 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Yes, if your CPU supports XFR, which the non-X chips don't.

 

Don't bother getting an H7 for Ryzen. I have one and I ditched it because it doesn't cool much better than the stock cooler. The contact the thing makes is rather poor on Ryzen, for some reason.

All ryzen chips have xfr, x chips just push an extra 50 MHz 

[Frankieanime158]

If your board has LLC, enable it. I imagine you get pretty bad v-droop, and drop below that 1.35v when under load. If you enable it, you might be able to get away with 3.9 at that vcore. It just allows for a push of more voltage when under load, since generally you'd drop some.