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Recently I bought the computer I'll list below from my brother (who dumpster dives for parts) for $100. Then took some bad advice from him on buying a graphics card on eBay. Since then I've been doing research on several sites and YouTube trying to educate myself. Well... I'm getting an education alright!!! I found out I pretty much wasted $200!!! See if you agree ---->
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DELL Intel core I-7 
XPS STUDIO
Model # REG D03M 001
MFG DATE 2010
(2nd generation)
I-7 processor 860
8Gb RAM.

PROCESSOR, I7-860, 2.8, 8MB, LYN, 95W, B1. (QUAD CORE)
1TB HARD DRIVE
OS Windows 10 pro

Video card: Nvidia 
GeForce GT730 4GB 5DDR 128 BIT ( The only new part in the whole system I got from eBay)

DELL Service tag D0zhkn1
Express service code:
28357776829
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So....NOW WHAT!!?? Do I (A) try to work with this, suggestions needed! or (B) count that $200 as "educational cost" and start over with your help?? 
I'm leaning towards the (B) choice!!
That said, I'd like to keep the new build under or about $1000 -$1200 including peripherals. (Monitor mostly)
It'd be used only for gaming and casual web browsing video watching.   

I already know I made a HUGE MISTAKE on the graphics card. 

 

Looking to play SKYRIM NEED FOR SPEED GTA5 & similar games. But this won't do it obviously   

Thanks for the help in advance

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Well the video card is modest, but the rest of the system is just fine. If you are not a hardcore gamer, it's a fine build.

What are you trying to accomplish with it?

NOTE: I no longer frequent this site. If you really need help, PM/DM me and my e.mail will alert me. 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($121.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($52.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($396.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($45.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1146.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-14 18:10 EDT-0400

 

And recycle the hard drive in the pc you bought.

 

If you wanna save some more money you could get a 1060 6gb instead. An r5 1600+b350 mobo would also save $50 for no loss in performance though 8400 has more gaming potential. I'm not good with peripherals so perhaps someone else could choose those instead.

3 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

Well the video card is modest, but the rest of the system is just fine. If you are not a hardcore gamer, it's a fine build.

What are you trying to accomplish with it?

GT 730 can barely run any modern game at low on 720p.

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Buy whatever product is best for you, not what product is "best" for the market.

 

Interested in computer architecture? Still in middle or high school? P.M. me!

 

I love computer hardware and feel free to ask me anything about that (or phones). I especially like SSDs. But please do not ask me anything about Networking, programming, command line stuff, or any relatively hard software stuff. I know next to nothing about that.

 

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CPU: i7 6700k, CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Motherboard: MSI Z170a KRAIT GAMING, RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 4x4gb DDR4-2666 MHz, Storage: SanDisk SSD Plus 240gb + OCZ Vertex 180 480 GB + Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 7200 RPM, Video Card: EVGA GTX 970 SSC, Case: Fractal Design Define S, Power Supply: Seasonic Focus+ Gold 650w Yay, Keyboard: Logitech G710+, Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum, Headphones: B&O H9i, Monitor: LG 29um67 (2560x1080 75hz freesync)

Home Server:

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CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter?

Laptop (I use it for school):

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Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050

And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb

 

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6 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

Well the video card is modest, but the rest of the system is just fine. If you are not a hardcore gamer, it's a fine build.

What are you trying to accomplish with it?

As I've said before play SKYRIM watch YouTube go on my Steam account etc. Nothing to fancy

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58 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($121.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($52.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($396.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($45.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1146.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-14 18:10 EDT-0400

 

And recycle the hard drive in the pc you bought.

 

If you wanna save some more money you could get a 1060 6gb instead. An r5 1600+b350 mobo would also save $50 for no loss in performance though 8400 has more gaming potential. I'm not good with peripherals so perhaps someone else could choose those instead.

GT 730 can barely run any modern game at low on 720p.

DUDE!! YOU'RE AWESOME!! THANKS And I'd like to wrap up in this case if it'll work. ? (Don't know why not)

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HUFNX4M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_HkX3zbMN67430?th=1&psc=1

 

 

 

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Look at this 4k monitor on eBay!!

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F192145844980

 

Should I get it!??  I had this one on my PC pick list ------>

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fFgPxr/aoc-monitor-g2460fq

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12 minutes ago, Chillywilley2 said:

BTW IM SCRAPING & BUILDING NEW!!

Not a bad idea.

 

One thing to keep in mind with the latest Intel cpu like the i5-8400, supply is quite limited at the moment.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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9 hours ago, Chillywilley2 said:

Sooooo???? U mean I might not be able to get the i5?? And what about my original question?

 

The i7-860 cpu is not up to GTA 5.

 

In response to competition, Intel released the 8th gen desktop cpu a bit earlier than originally intended. As a result production is just ramping up and initial availability is tight. I expect supply will start to meet demand in a month or so.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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10 hours ago, brob said:

The i7-860 cpu is not up to GTA 5.

 

In response to competition, Intel released the 8th gen desktop cpu a bit earlier than originally intended. As a result production is just ramping up and initial availability is tight. I expect supply will start to meet demand in a month or so.

I'm not getting a I5-860. I'm getting an I 5-8400

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1 hour ago, Chillywilley2 said:

I'm not getting a I5-860. I'm getting an I 5-8400

I know, you asked for a response to the original question. I took that to be the OP question should you keep the old system or start afresh.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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1 hour ago, Chillywilley2 said:

I don't understand

On the My Custom Build page, there is a tool bar above the list. On the left side of the bar is a field labeled Permalink. The contents are a link to that particular build list. 

 

Roughly in the center of the tool bar is a button "[bb]". Click it to popup a window with a suitably formatted build list that can be copied into a post.

 

1 hour ago, Chillywilley2 said:

My new build

Instead of two 120GB ssd, I would suggest getting a single larger ssd.

 

If you are purchasing in the US, SeaSonic FOCUS Plus 550 Gold and EVGA SuperNOVA 550 are slightly less expensive but much better psu.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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3 hours ago, brob said:

On the My Custom Build page, there is a tool bar above the list. On the left side of the bar is a field labeled Permalink. The contents are a link to that particular build list. 

 

Roughly in the center of the tool bar is a button "[bb]". Click it to popup a window with a suitably formatted build list that can be copied into a post.

 

Instead of two 120GB ssd, I would suggest getting a single larger ssd.

 

If you are purchasing in the US, SeaSonic FOCUS Plus 550 Gold and EVGA SuperNOVA 550 are slightly less expensive but much better psu.

I'm doing a raid on the 2ssd & using a 1Tb mechanical drive as storage. 

 

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I'm doing a raid on the 2ssd & using a 1Tb mechanical drive as storage. 

 

If it's RAID 0, I would suggest not doing so. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-raid-benchmark,3485-13.html 

 

If it's any other RAID level, unless downtime is extremely expensive, it is not worth the bother. A good regular backup scheme will suffice. Besides, 120GB is on the tight side for a Windows boot & system volume.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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The guy helping me put this all together said. "They all say that it's bs. honestly it all lies in the configuration and the motherboard ram combo on top of that raid stripe.ive been doing this for a long time I'd tell you If it was a waste of time"

So I don't know WHAT to believe. 

Here's what PC world says. 

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2365767/feed-your-greed-for-speed-by-installing-ssds-in-raid-0.html

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8 hours ago, Chillywilley2 said:

The guy helping me put this all together said. "They all say that it's bs. honestly it all lies in the configuration and the motherboard ram combo on top of that raid stripe.ive been doing this for a long time I'd tell you If it was a waste of time"

So I don't know WHAT to believe. 

Here's what PC world says. 

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2365767/feed-your-greed-for-speed-by-installing-ssds-in-raid-0.html

If you check out the much more detailed article I linked you will note that while RAID 0 ssd are very fast in particular types of i/o. Those i/o patterns are less common on the desktop. The patterns cited in the article you linked for instance. How often do you read a 10GB file all at once? 

 

If speed is the goal it is less expensive to use a 4-lane NVMe M.2 drive like the Samsung 960 Evo / Pro.

 

A 120GB boot & system drive is going to be very tight. 

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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