First build in years!

[AQJ]

Hey fellow nerds,

 

It has been years since I've build a computer and have just been "gaming" on a work laptop, I play mostly Grand Strategy (EU4 and the like) And the occasional MMO, no tripple A shooters or the like.

 

I was playing around with PCpartspicker and wanted a decent "middle of the road" machine with future upgrade potential in mind and have come up with the following:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8350K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper T2 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($16.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($121.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($89.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SSC GAMING ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($154.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - BQ 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $837.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-11 17:21 EDT-0400

 

Any comments on my choice of parts? Any tips?

[Mira Yurizaki]

Depending on the strategy game and its length of an average match, you may want to invest in a more powerful processor so CPU turns go faster.

 

That's assuming your games can use multiple cores in the first place.

[SquintyG33Rs]

only thing i really wouldn't recommend is the hyper T2 it's not better than the intel stock cooler and a couple bucks more will get you something you can actually OC on. hyper 212 is really a better buy

[staubgame]

Unless your dead set bellow 900 it's okay but I'd step up to the i5-8400. That one currently wins in price/performance.

And of course beats the i3 as far as I know. Will do so in longevity.

Also, I'd prefere an ASUS Motherboard over MSI but that's not a big deal.

[RonaldMcDank120]

1 minute ago, staubgame said:

Unless your dead set bellow 900 it's okay but I'd step up to the i5-8400. That one currently wins in price/performance.

And of course beats the i3 as far as I know. Will do so in longevity.

Also, I'd prefere an ASUS Motherboard over MSI but that's not a big deal.

I agree unless he might want to overclock. Also, I completely agree on using an ASUS motherboard.

[seon123]

Get the 8400 instead of the 8350K, unless you will absolutely not benefit from the extra cores (if the game you play only uses 1 core). 

If you get the 8400, drop the T2, if you get the 8350K, get a better cooler.

I think there was a $99 Z370 motherboard. Get that one. 

Get cheaper RAM. 2400-2666 MHz is fine, and for Intel platforms, it doesn't make much difference. 

I have no idea why you would get the WD Blue SSD. Get the SL308 or MX300 instead. 

Get a cheaper 1050 Ti. It's a 75W card IIRC, so cooling doesn't really matter. 

Get the P300 instead. 

Get the CX/M instead of the BQ

[staubgame]

Just now, RonaldMcDank120 said:

I agree unless he might want to overclock. Also, I completely agree on using an ASUS motherboard.

Sosig. You know.

 

Also true, but I doubt an overclocked i3 performs better than the i5. 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i3-8350K/3939vs3935

 

It's not much but apparently the i3 is 11% faster in single core but 32% slower in multicore speed. But this is a sinthetic benchmark.

[RonaldMcDank120]

Just now, staubgame said:

Sosig. You know.

 

Also true, but I doubt an overclocked i3 performs better than the i5. 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i3-8350K/3939vs3935

 

It's not much but apparently the i3 is 11% faster in single core but 32% slower in multicore speed. But this is a sinthetic benchmark.

I mean quadcore gaming has always been great so I guess its just really up to OP if he is gonna be using those extra cores.

[staubgame]

1 minute ago, RonaldMcDank120 said:

I mean quadcore gaming has always been great so I guess its just really up to OP if he is gonna be using those extra cores.

Yeah, still the step up is finally upon us. And the number of games only using single core is dwindling every day. (maybe a bit overdramatic).

6 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Get the 8400 instead of the 8350K, unless you will absolutely not benefit from the extra cores (if the game you play only uses 1 core). 

If you get the 8400, drop the T2, if you get the 8350K, get a better cooler.

I think there was a $99 Z370 motherboard. Get that one. 

Get cheaper RAM. 2400-2666 MHz is fine, and for Intel platforms, it doesn't make much difference. 

I have no idea why you would get the WD Blue SSD. Get the SL308 or MX300 instead. 

Get a cheaper 1050 Ti. It's a 75W card IIRC, so cooling doesn't really matter. 

Get the P300 instead. 

Get the CX/M instead of the BQ

These are actually good advices.

Except the case. But tempered glass on 60$ damn. Still don't like the fronmt, but damn. 60$ 

 

Also, why does everyone advice against the BQ?

[seon123]

7 minutes ago, staubgame said:

These are actually good advices.

Except the case. But tempered glass on 60$ damn. Still don't like the fronmt, but damn. 60$ 

 

Also, why does everyone advice against the BQ?

Thanks. Good advices, as opposed to my usual advices, which are crap? That's what you mean?

I can't resist trying to get TG cases to everyone. He could get a less expensive case, but like $10 for a nicer looking case? Which he'll see every day? Worth it, imo.

The BQ isn't bad, per se, It's just that it's rarely available for compelling prices, the CX/M is available for less quite often, and there are often other, better PSUs available for less. Currently, that's the Rosewill Photon for $40 after rebate, and the TX550M for $43 after rebate and with a code

Edited October 11, 2017 by seon123
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[staubgame]

Just now, seon123 said:

Thanks. Good advices, as opposed to my usual advices, which are crap? That's what you mean?

 I ... I mean...

*panics*

 *cries*

 

I also love TG. Sucks a bit that I just changed my case prior to TG become widespread (exactly 2 years ago). 

Really considering just changing my case but it's 100+ € just for looks. (Currently using the bequiet silent base 600)

Also I like dead silence for my PC (while not gaming) and currently I have that ^^

[AQJ]

8 minutes ago, seon123 said:

I think there was a $99 Z370 motherboard. Get that one.

I couldn't find one, do you have a link?

8 minutes ago, seon123 said:

 

Get cheaper RAM. 2400-2666 MHz is fine, and for Intel platforms, it doesn't make much difference. 

The price difference appears to be 13 dollars (at least on the Corsair Vengeance LPX) Is it really that small of a difference that it's worth saving 13 bucks?

8 minutes ago, seon123 said:

I have no idea why you would get the WD Blue SSD. Get the SL308 or MX300 instead. 

Noted, appreciated the feedback!

8 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Get a cheaper 1050 Ti. It's a 75W card IIRC, so cooling doesn't really matter. 

I couldn't find a much cheaper 1050 TI, any suggestions?

8 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Get the P300 instead. 

Noted, appreciated the feedback!

8 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Get the CX/M instead of the BQ

Noted, appreciated the feedback!

[seon123]

1 minute ago, AQJ said:

I couldn't find one, do you have a link?

The price difference appears to be 13 dollars (at least on the Corsair Vengeance LPX) Is it really that small of a difference that it's worth saving 13 bucks?

Noted, appreciated the feedback!

I couldn't find a much cheaper 1050 TI, any suggestions?

Noted, appreciated the feedback!

Noted, appreciated the feedback!

Apparently the price increased. I guess it sold out, or the price has changed since a few hours ago. I mean, any Z370 board should be fine for an 8350K. Lower end boards tend to have 6 USB ports, and the one you chose is the least expensive that doesn't have one of the USB ports as Type C. 

Do you really want an LPX kit? There are 2x 8GB  2400 MHz sticks for $135, or a Ripjaws 3000 MHz kit for $150. 

You could get the card from Newegg for $140 after rebate. Or just any 1050 Ti. Just go to the GPU section on PCPP, and set the filter to 1050 Ti. 

No problem. 

[staubgame]

12 minutes ago, AQJ said:

I couldn't find one, do you have a link?

The price difference appears to be 13 dollars (at least on the Corsair Vengeance LPX) Is it really that small of a difference that it's worth saving 13 bucks?

Noted, appreciated the feedback!

I couldn't find a much cheaper 1050 TI, any suggestions?

Noted, appreciated the feedback!

Noted, appreciated the feedback!

For the 1050Ti, look at Zotac. Both EVGA and Zotac offer prolonged warranty (Zotac 5 years) and evga once had 10 years. But when looking for my 1080 I found that Evga now wants money on top when registering. That bummed me. 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500411&cm_re=1050ti-_-14-500-411-_-Product

Zotac 1050Ti mini is also the cheapest  

[AQJ]

14 minutes ago, staubgame said:

For the 1050Ti, look at Zotac. Both EVGA and Zotac offer prolonged warranty (Zotac 5 years) and evga once had 10 years. But when looking for my 1080 I found that Evga now wants money on top when registering. That bummed me. 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500411&cm_re=1050ti-_-14-500-411-_-Product

Zotac 1050Ti mini is also the cheapest  

It just looks so whimpy 

 

But duely noted, thanks!

[AQJ]

Thanks all for your inputs, this is what I ended up with:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  (Purchased For $218.50) 
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (Purchased For $174.99) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (Purchased For $179.99) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $117.60) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card  (Purchased For $269.99) 
Case: Corsair - 270R ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $69.99) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $59.99) 
Total: $1091.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-16 16:05 EDT-0400