Building new PC, help!!!

[Black-Mesa]

So I'm looking to build a new PC as I'm getting back into gaming but I've been a bit out of touch with hardware and components as of recent as I've been at college. I've heard good things about certain things and bad about others and so on and so forth, but I don't really have a great knowledge as of yet. I was hoping someone would be able to help me choose components for a build that meets my 'requirements'?

 

So my budget is around £600 - £750 (Inc. Windows 10) and I'd like to be able to play most modern titles at 1080p 60fps+ ideally. Everything cranked up to mega ultra settings isn't really a priority, but if the games can look nice that's always a plus . I play games like GTA5, Arma 3, PUBG, etc. I also do audio production so I need something that's quiet but has good cooling. In terms of storage I'm looking for something like a 3TB HDD, I'm not too bothered about SSD storage. My only other preferences for the PC is an mATX case as I only have so much desk room.

 

Hopefully someone could help, it'd be much appreciated.

[Shiv78]

This is the lowest I'd go for solid performance. why is uk stuff so expensive even though the currency is worth more ;-;

add 30 for Kinguin Windows 10.

If this is truly stretching the budget, go for a Ryzen 3 1200 so you have a solid upgrade path in the future.

 

NOBODY BETTER SUGGEST AN i5

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£143.94 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£64.48 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Kingston - Savage 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£96.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£79.40 @ Box Limited) 
Video Card: Inno3D - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB iChill Video Card  (£259.19 @ Novatech) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£39.98 @ Novatech) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£47.38 @ Box Limited) 
Total: £731.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-09 00:59 BST+0100

[Radium_Angel]

You will find the top of the line video cards are all being taken for cryptocurrency mining, so the prices are rather badly inflated. Perhaps a GTX 970 would do.

There are many coolers out there that are quiet (low decibel range, not dead silent) but to be honest, I've never had issues with even stock coolers and noise. Water cooling is an option, but possibly above your comfort level in installing?

As far as CPU goes, any quad core i5/i7 will be plenty for your needs. 

[Shiv78]

Just now, Radium_Angel said:

any quad core i5

 

2 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

NOBODY BETTER SUGGEST AN i5

 

[Black-Mesa]

3 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

why is uk stuff so expensive even though the currency is worth more ;-;

Brexit, RIP to the UK 

[Radium_Angel]

Sorry about that, I was writing the post when the other person posted theirs.

For the record, I have no issues with my core i5 and gaming, but YMMV almost certainly.

[Shiv78]

6 minutes ago, Black-Mesa said:

Brexit, RIP to the UK 

f

[Shiv78]

4 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

For the record, I have no issues with my core i5 and gaming, but YMMV almost certainly.

no issues, just horrible value

[xDyl]

7 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

 

op should get an i3-7350K to open his part boxes with too 

[Black-Mesa]

How do you think this would cope with games like the ones I mentioned? Like Arma 3?

12 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

 solid performance

 

[TSL]

1 minute ago, Shiv78 said:

no issues, just horrible value

The 7600k isn't too bad of value.... granted, its motherboard is more expensive for overclocking but it will still beat a R5 1600 at gaming anyway....

[Shiv78]

10 minutes ago, TSL said:

The 7600k isn't too bad of value.... granted, its motherboard is more expensive for overclocking but it will still beat a R5 1600 at gaming anyway....

but it doesn't have a future upgrade path as good as AM4. also at non-gaming tasks the Ryzen had 2x the threads...

 

11 minutes ago, Black-Mesa said:

How do you think this would cope with games like the ones I mentioned? Like Arma 3?

23 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

should be pretty good

[Black-Mesa]

25 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

If this is truly stretching the budget, go for a Ryzen 3 1200 so you have a solid upgrade path in the future.

Would you say it's worth the £50 difference? Do you think the performance difference would be considerable or..?

[Guest]

42 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

add 30 for Kinguin Windows 10.
Memory: Kingston - Savage 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£96.99 @ Amazon UK) 
 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3k8QkT--Added 16gb ram for another 40 or so dollars and buy a windows ten key on ebay for like five bucks. x)

[Black-Mesa]

Just now, iVince said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3k8QkT

Why is DDR4 so expensive?

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Black-Mesa said:

Why is DDR4 so expensive?

Dunno but he had 8 gb for 96 and I added 16gb for 144 so... yeah.. both same speed and cas.

[Black-Mesa]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/d72kcf/crucial-memory-ct4g4dfs8213

 

Would something like 2 of these be okay? It'd still be 8GB and cheaper than the 1 stick of 8 in the og list? I understand it's at a slower clock speed but I remember Linus did a video a while ago about clock speeds and it wasn't that big of a difference in terms of performance inbetween each clock speed?

[TSL]

Just now, Black-Mesa said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/d72kcf/crucial-memory-ct4g4dfs8213

 

Would something like 2 of these be okay? It'd still be 8GB and cheaper than the 1 stick of 8 in the og list? I understand it's at a slower clock speed but I remember Linus did a video a while ago about clock speeds and it wasn't that big of a difference in terms of performance inbetween each clock speed?

Ryzen is different, it is affected hugely by the clock speed of RAM. By going from 2133Mhz to 3000Mhz there can be as much as 20-25% performance increase.

[Black-Mesa]

Just now, TSL said:

 as much as 20-25%

So the extra money is well worth it then?

[TSL]

Just now, Black-Mesa said:

So the extra money is well worth it then?

yes, picking up RAM around 2666Mhz-3000Mhz will definitely be worth it, any higher than that, the extra premium isn't worth it anymore.

[TSL]

I've put this together for you; It has quite a good CPU cooler, only for the fact that it is very quiet under load (which was a point of concern for you). It is also in a M-ATX form factor and includes the cost of windows 10...

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fTDjTH

[Black-Mesa]

3 minutes ago, TSL said:

I've put this together for you; It has quite a good CPU cooler, only for the fact that it is very quiet under load (which was a point of concern for you). It is also in a M-ATX form factor and includes the cost of windows 10...

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fTDjTH

What would be a good comparison for the 1050 to the 900 series? Or the previous generation AMD cards for that matter too?

[Fardin]

11 minutes ago, Black-Mesa said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/d72kcf/crucial-memory-ct4g4dfs8213

 

Would something like 2 of these be okay? It'd still be 8GB and cheaper than the 1 stick of 8 in the og list? I understand it's at a slower clock speed but I remember Linus did a video a while ago about clock speeds and it wasn't that big of a difference in terms of performance inbetween each clock speed?

with intel ram speed doesn't make huge difference. for ryzen due to its infinity fabric, faster ram helps boost performance. 

[Black-Mesa]

Just now, Fardin said:

infinity fabric

Mind if I ask about this? Like I said, I'm quite out of the loop with computer components, maybe articles or a quick explanation? 

[Fardin]

1 minute ago, Black-Mesa said:

Mind if I ask about this? Like I said, I'm quite out of the loop with computer components, maybe articles or a quick explanation? 

no problem, take a look

https://www.techpowerup.com/231585/amd-ryzen-infinity-fabric-ticks-at-memory-speed