RAM COMPATIBILTY???

[CompleteChaos50]

Hey guys 

 

I am building a computer and have gathered all the parts except the RAM. Will the RAM linked below be compatible with an MSI B350 Mortar Arctic motherboard(used with Ryzen 5 1500x)??

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156082&cm_re=ballistix_sport_lt_8gb-_-20-156-082-_-Product

[YuriNator557]

It would be compatible, but I'd recommend either overclocking that RAM or buying a faster kit.

[DocSwag]

It'll work and run at 2400 but higher frequency ram is preferable.

[Beowulff83]

14 minutes ago, CompleteChaos50 said:

I am building a computer and have gathered all the parts except the RAM. Will the RAM linked below be compatible with an MSI B350 Mortar Arctic motherboard(used with Ryzen 5 1500x)??

https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350M-MORTAR-ARCTIC.html#support-mem-2

 

I would also try to find faster Ram, 3000mhz if you could

[CompleteChaos50]

24 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

It'll work and run at 2400 but higher frequency ram is preferable.

Would this RAM have a higher frequency?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233937&cm_re=corsair_vegeance_lpx_8gb-_-20-233-937-_-Product

 

I am new to PC building(as you could probably tell

[DocSwag]

2 minutes ago, CompleteChaos50 said:

Would this RAM have a higher frequency?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233937&cm_re=corsair_vegeance_lpx_8gb-_-20-233-937-_-Product

 

I am new to PC building(as you could probably tell

No , ram frequency is the number before the "MHz." Here is a kit that's higher frequency.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wQmxFT/team-vulcan-8gb-2-x-4gb-ddr4-3000-memory-tlgd48g3000hc16cdc01

[CompleteChaos50]

49 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

No , ram frequency is the number before the "MHz." Here is a kit that's higher frequency.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wQmxFT/team-vulcan-8gb-2-x-4gb-ddr4-3000-memory-tlgd48g3000hc16cdc01

Thanks! Is there any reason why they are relatively the same price, or is that just how the companies choose to price it? Also, would you recommend the RAM kit that you showed me? I noticed that other Team T force Vulcan kits all cost the same, even though they are different speeds.

[just_dave]

Don't buy MSI motherboards, they are trash, both VRMs and Memory support suck

[VSTOLL]

1 hour ago, dave_k said:

Don't buy MSI motherboards, they are trash, both VRMs and Memory support suck

I can see you only complain about MSi boards. They are more than enough for 90% of people. Not everyone is going to do insane overclocks and stuff on a b350. You should get a x370 if you are that kind of person. MSi b350 deliver great performance for what they're priced.

[just_dave]

2 minutes ago, VSTOLL said:

I can see you only complain about MSi boards. They are more than enough for 90% of people. Not everyone is going to do insane overclocks and stuff on a b350. You should get a x370 if you are that kind of person. MSi b350 deliver great performance for what they're priced.

Their memory compatibility is awful, also, the VRMs are for futureproofing. MSI and Gigabyte B350s suck hard and you should know it, but you apparently like complete trash

[VSTOLL]

5 minutes ago, dave_k said:

Their memory compatibility is awful, also, the VRMs are for futureproofing. MSI and Gigabyte B350s suck hard and you should know it, but you apparently like complete trash

Fine sir, I see you get completely triggered.

 

By the way, memory compatibility is not a huge issue, people make too much of it. You'll be fine with corsair, gskill or hyper x.

 

I had a biostar TP55 before my current build, that board don't even have heatsinks on the vrms, but it's still working smooth after 8 years of intense use.

[just_dave]

33 minutes ago, VSTOLL said:

Fine sir, I see you get completely triggered.

 

By the way, memory compatibility is not a huge issue, people make too much of it. You'll be fine with corsair, gskill or hyper x.

 

I had a biostar TP55 before my current build, that board don't even have heatsinks on the vrms, but it's still working smooth after 8 years of intense use.

Focken Biostar TP55 is not MSI B350. I have VRM details of all AM4 mobos. I have so bad experience with MSI B350 that i wouldn't recommend it.

[just_dave]

37 minutes ago, VSTOLL said:

Fine sir, I see you get completely triggered.

 

By the way, memory compatibility is not a huge issue, people make too much of it. You'll be fine with corsair, gskill or hyper x.

 

I had a biostar TP55 before my current build, that board don't even have heatsinks on the vrms, but it's still working smooth after 8 years of intense use.

The B350 Tomahawk class mobos from MSI are so hilarously bad that i nearly slit my wrists while trying to get Corsair Ryzen kit to the rated speeds, after 1 hour of trying and solving really huge BIOS issues i just went with the JEDEC speeds because fuck MSI

[VSTOLL]

2 hours ago, dave_k said:

Focken Biostar TP55 is not MSI B350. I have VRM details of all AM4 mobos. I have so bad experience with MSI B350 that i wouldn't recommend it.

 

1 hour ago, dave_k said:

The B350 Tomahawk class mobos from MSI are so hilarously bad that i nearly slit my wrists while trying to get Corsair Ryzen kit to the rated speeds, after 1 hour of trying and solving really huge BIOS issues i just went with the JEDEC speeds because fuck MSI

 

I totally understand that you had problems and got really frustrated with a MSi board due to your experience, but, you still didn't get what I'm saying.

 

B350 are for people who are beginners, just like OP, he said he doesn't have much experience with building a PC, so he probably won't adventure too much overclocking his CPU and RAM. B350 are for those who are in a limited budget but still want some features that A320 boards doesn't have, like better audio, 4 memory slots, multiple PCI-E, M.2 and USB-C, and some of the B350 boards look really cool, specially MSi's. What I'm saying is, people who buy boards that are around this price aren't looking for top notch performance, reliability and stability on overclocks, because they will not do it, they'll probably stick to stock coolers and clocks or do a tiny OC. I'm included in this bunch, I like hardware just enough to buy and build myself a PC that I need, for a better price and that's it. I couldn't set my RAM at 3000MHz, only at 2667MHz, but I'll not fret about it because I'll not even notice the increase in performance, and if I do, 5~10FPS in games and 2 seconds less in render times are not worthy of a bunch of headache that I'll have trying to fine tune timings and clocks and all that stuff. I understand that you like to do those tunings and extract the max performance out of your PC, and you're totally in your right, but for that you should move to a platform that supports you, that is the X370 boards that are expensier than B350.

 

That's why people buy Macs and Notebooks, most of PC users don't want trouble and spend days tuning settings, they just want to plug everything, do a basic setup and be ready to move on.

[just_dave]

6 minutes ago, VSTOLL said:

 

 

I totally understand that you had problems and got really frustrated with a MSi board due to your experience, but, you still didn't get what I'm saying.

 

B350 are for people who are beginners, just like OP, he said he doesn't have much experience with building a PC, so he probably won't adventure too much overclocking his CPU and RAM. B350 are for those who are in a limited budget but still want some features that A320 boards doesn't have, like better audio, 4 memory slots, multiple PCI-E, M.2 and USB-C, and some of the B350 boards look really cool, specially MSi's. What I'm saying is, people who buy boards that are around this price aren't looking for top notch performance, reliability and stability on overclocks, because they will not do it, they'll probably stick to stock coolers and clocks or do a tiny OC. I'm included in this bunch, I like hardware just enough to buy and build myself a PC that I need, for a better price and that's it. I couldn't set my RAM at 3000MHz, only at 2667MHz, but I'll not fret about it because I'll not even notice the increase in performance, and if I do, 5~10FPS in games and 2 seconds less in render times are not worthy of a bunch of headache that I'll have trying to fine tune timings and clocks and all that stuff. I understand that you like to do those tunings and extract the max performance out of your PC, and you're totally in your right, but for that you should move to a platform that supports you, that is the X370 boards that are expensier than B350.

 

That's why people buy Macs and Notebooks, most of PC users don't want trouble and spend days tuning settings, they just want to plug everything, do a basic setup and be ready to move on.

You should know that Tomahawk-class mobos have really, really bad features.

Ancient audio from Realtek

Random network card from realtek

4 satas

I understand your concern, but people running R7 at stock got their MSI VRMs over 100°C

Thats just unacceptable.

You are underestimating the memory clocks, Infinity Fabric is highly scalable and even 133MHz bump will do magic

[DocSwag]

5 hours ago, CompleteChaos50 said:

Thanks! Is there any reason why they are relatively the same price, or is that just how the companies choose to price it? Also, would you recommend the RAM kit that you showed me? I noticed that other Team T force Vulcan kits all cost the same, even though they are different speeds.

Just how companies choose to price it as well as potential sales and stuff.