An Architect needs a Build

[7h39]

Hello everyone, great fan of the yt channel here, in search of a little more specific "tips"!

 

I'm an architect and i'm going to start my small office soon. I do the most of the work alone, with occasional interns and partners. 

 

Currently i'm running the midtower i built during the college with a 2600k OCed to 3.8 ghz and an ati firepro V5900.

 

My daily workflow consist into a mix of Autocad, Rhinoceros and Revit for 3d modelling and drawing, Cinema4D with Vray (not rt) for rendering (even if i want to learn uengine) and Photoshop, Indesign and Illustrator for post production and presentation.

 

Lately render times increased to several hours, so i was totally hyped for the ryzen/threadripper platform and its cinebench scores at an "affordable"price.

But from the taskmanager seems that the majority of applications run single or light multithreaded.

 

Along with the processor i would upgrade the Gpu too, but i'm really not sure on what to get.

 

I don't know, drawing geometries (litte or no textures, or just solid colors) at screen is cpu or gpu bound?

 

Autocad and Uengine i think they use directx, cinema and rhino opengl.. revit ?and with all of this, even cuda/opencl is relevant for the adobe creative suite and real time rendering.

 

I was looking for Vega Frontier Edition because of the "productivity drivers" thing, but also the titan xp got a driver update with (uncertified, but is not important) productivity drivers (maya and such). However i would be glad to spare some money on a 1000e gpu if i dont need it and call it a day with a 1070/1080/1080ti.

 

What cpu/gpu combination would you suggest?? 

 

Thanks!

 

 

[TrigrH]

single or light multithreaded: 7700k

 

GPU: RX vega maybe? I wouldn't be surprised if you could flash a Frontier bios on the or something.

[7h39]

8 hours ago, TrigrH said:

single or light multithreaded: 7700k

 

GPU: RX vega maybe? I wouldn't be surprised if you could flash a Frontier bios on the or something.

Yeah but 7700k dosen't help too much with the heavy lifting that is renders.

 

I think its cinebench score is around 1000 vs my actual 750 vs the 1700 of a ryzen 7 (and up with i9 and threadrippers) 

 

Do you think is possible to flash the Frontier bios? Maybe should i wait a few weeks after launch to see? Any other options?

 

Thanks!

[TrigrH]

4 hours ago, 7h39 said:

Yeah but 7700k dosen't help too much with the heavy lifting that is renders.

 

Do you think is possible to flash the Frontier bios? Maybe should i wait a few weeks after launch to see? Any other options?

If you need to render, go ryzen then?

 

As for the bios stuff you will have to wait and see.

[brob]

I would suggest waiting to see some independent benchmarks for Coffee Lake. The i7 cpu are supposed to have 6 hyperthreaded cores and significantly better performance than its predecessors.

 

If cpu rendering is being used, then high core count Ryzen will probably be optimal. But if gpu rendering is the norm, then stick with Intel cores and invest in a good gpu. 

[7h39]

7 hours ago, TrigrH said:

If you need to render, go ryzen then?

 

As for the bios stuff you will have to wait and see.

Ryzen 7? Is threadripper an overkill ( 350e cpu + 250e mb vs 1000e + 350e = "triple" the price double the performance) ?

 

6 hours ago, brob said:

I would suggest waiting to see some independent benchmarks for Coffee Lake. The i7 cpu are supposed to have 6 hyperthreaded cores and significantly better performance than its predecessors.

 

If cpu rendering is being used, then high core count Ryzen will probably be optimal. But if gpu rendering is the norm, then stick with Intel cores and invest in a good gpu. 

I'm a little bit off from rumors.. when the new i7 will be aviable? 

Currently i do only cpu rendering, but if i throw unreal engine into the mix also a good gpu will be necessary.

Viewport smoothness with highly detailed models its cpu or gpu bound, or depends on the viewport resolution?

 

Thanks one more time for all the help

[brob]

9 hours ago, 7h39 said:

Ryzen 7? Is threadripper an overkill ( 350e cpu + 250e mb vs 1000e + 350e = "triple" the price double the performance) ?

 

I'm a little bit off from rumors.. when the new i7 will be aviable? 

Currently i do only cpu rendering, but if i throw unreal engine into the mix also a good gpu will be necessary.

Viewport smoothness with highly detailed models its cpu or gpu bound, or depends on the viewport resolution?

 

Thanks one more time for all the help

 

Coffee Lake will be launched August 21, 2017. The i7-8700K will have six hyperthreaded cores. The cpu will have variable turbo modes with one core reaching 4.7GHz and all six reaching 4.3GHz. All this before any overclocking. Hopefully by the beginning of September we'll have some decent benchmarks for the cpu.

 

But if you plan to do much cpu rendering, you should probably be looking at i9 or Threadripper, presuming the budget will stretch that far.

 

If you are going to be using Unreal Engine consider a GTX 1080 Ti it should offer a reasonable compromise between cost and performance. But you will have to take into account your gpu memory requirements, it may be that something like the 12GB Titan Xp is necessary.

[7h39]

Hello! I brainstormed i bit and i came out with this build, kind of budget and somewhat an all-rounder:

 

Phanteks Enthoo Evolv Shift
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX1080 Ti TURBO 11GB 
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X 
G.Skill Trident Z 32GB DDR4 CL16
3200 C16 Corsair SF600 passive 600 Watt
Gigabyte AB350N-Gaming
Samsung SSD 960 Evo M.2 500GB
WD Blue Desktop 3TB 
Corsair Hydro H80i 

 

Should be balanced for cpu (plan yo oc @3.9ghz) and gpu rendering + cuda, with a cool case and for around 2200€

 

What do you think about it?

 

Eventually will wait for the new i7 8700k to see its cinebench score vs the ryzen 1700