FPS Drastically Dropping

[AlfeT]

Yo guys, I've had this problem for quite a while now. Every time I game, my FPS drops a generous 15-20 frames. Most games I play, this will happen including DayZ, and BF3 as examples.No idea if this is a heat issue, so I got a cooling pad (4 Fans), and replaced the Thermal Compound for the CPU and GPU. No dice. I used AIDA64, while playing DayZ to see the temperatures and if my CPU was throttling. I took some screenshots of them after about 20 minutes of playing DayZ. Again, my FPS dropped from high 50s - low 60s, all the way down to low 30s. CPU usage was almost always below 30% with some spikes. And the temps were, quite.. normal? around 70 C. I have no idea what causes this and I've had this problem for quite a while now, it was fine when I first bought it. Yes it is a laptop, not a great one at that, but I know for a fact that this is not normal.

Specs: Lenovo Z710

GPU Nvidia Geforce 745M

CPU:Intel Core i7 4700MQ @ 2.4 GHz

RAM:8 gigs

OS: Windows 10 64-Bit

BIOS: (up to date) 7FCN96WW

 

 

[JakeNTech]

1 minute ago, Datoneguywithpcproblems said:

Yo guys, I've had this problem for quite a while now. Every time I game, my FPS drops a generous 15-20 frames. Most games I play, this will happen including DayZ, and BF3 as examples.No idea if this is a heat issue, so I got a cooling pad (4 Fans), and replaced the Thermal Compound for the CPU and GPU. No dice. I used AIDA64, while playing DayZ to see the temperatures and if my CPU was throttling. I took some screenshots of them after about 20 minutes of playing DayZ. Again, my FPS dropped from high 50s - low 60s, all the way down to low 30s. CPU usage was almost always below 30% with some spikes. And the temps were, quite.. normal? around 70 C. I have no idea what causes this and almost always have had this problem since I first bought it. Yes it is a laptop, not a great one at that, but I know for a fact that this is not normal.

Specs: Lenovo Z710

GPU Nvidia Geforce 745M

CPU:Intel Core i7 4700MQ @ 2.4 GHz

RAM:8 gigs

OS: Windows 10 64-Bit

BIOS: (up to date) 7FCN96WW

 

 

Your CPU looked like its getting a bit to hot....80C max, How did you apply the thermal paste? 

[AlfeT]

2 minutes ago, fixitnow said:

Your CPU looked like its getting a bit to hot....80C max, How did you apply the thermal paste? 

Little bit smaller than pea size for one that was square and rice method for the rectangular one. Its been like this even before i replaced. I believe it was even hotter.

[JakeNTech]

1 minute ago, Datoneguywithpcproblems said:

Little bit smaller that pea size for one that was square and rice method for the rectangular one. Its been like this even before i replaced. I believe it was even hotter.

Ok, so If you can(and don't mind) Could you do it like this and see if you still have issues: 

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1- Get some thermal paste, I have found artic silver 5 gives the best results, and some TIM cleaner, You could probably go with out, the TIM cleaner that is, it but it makes the job easier. 

2- Disassemble you computer then remove the heatsink.Once you have taken the heat sink off, put some TIM remover onto some tissue, toilet paper will be fine, and gently wipe over the CPU/GPU/North bridge(Select as appropriate). until there is no paste left, not even a trace should be left. If the TIM isn’t coming off easily then you can put some directly onto the chip.

3- Wait 2-3 minutes, this lets the tim cleaner lifts what has been missed. 

4- Wipe all the surfaces you have just cleaned with a material like your t-shirt, a first run of this stage could be done with some tissue then your t-shirt but it doesn’t really matter as long as it is gone; make sure that you are connected to a anti-static strap, Its unlikely that you will kill your PC with static energy but its not worth the risk.

5- Apply a line of thermal paste in a parallel line to the longest edge on the CPU/GPU/North bridge.

6- Spread it out most TIM kits include a spreader but you can always use some cling film over the end of your finger, I found the spreader easier but your milage may vary; you want a thin layer over the whole die, making sure that you can't see the die, if there is some on the socket latch (or on the green part,Mobile chips) then its not too important but some people may remove it, I personally don’t bother.

7- Place the heat sink down at a one or two degree angle and then turn it so that the mounting holes are all align, then wait a few minutes, this allows the air to escape.

8- Tighten the screws down in a star like pattern, make them all finger tight and then go around with a screw driver, the heatsink shouldn’t move at all. 

9- Make sure that it is all tight and reassemble you computer.

Thermal paste doesn’t last long and should ideally be replaced yearly.

All I can think of after that is that that the fan(s) inside the laptop aren't working like they should.

[AlfeT]

3 minutes ago, fixitnow said:

Ok, so If you can(and don't mind) Could you do it like this and see if you still have issues: 

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1- Get some thermal paste, I have found artic silver 5 gives the best results, and some TIM cleaner, You could probably go with out, the TIM cleaner that is, it but it makes the job easier. 

2- Disassemble you computer then remove the heatsink.Once you have taken the heat sink off, put some TIM remover onto some tissue, toilet paper will be fine, and gently wipe over the CPU/GPU/North bridge(Select as appropriate). until there is no paste left, not even a trace should be left. If the TIM isn’t coming off easily then you can put some directly onto the chip.

3- Wait 2-3 minutes, this lets the tim cleaner lifts what has been missed. 

4- Wipe all the surfaces you have just cleaned with a material like your t-shirt, a first run of this stage could be done with some tissue then your t-shirt but it doesn’t really matter as long as it is gone; make sure that you are connected to a anti-static strap, Its unlikely that you will kill your PC with static energy but its not worth the risk.

5- Apply a line of thermal paste in a parallel line to the longest edge on the CPU/GPU/North bridge.

6- Spread it out most TIM kits include a spreader but you can always use some cling film over the end of your finger, I found the spreader easier but your milage may vary; you want a thin layer over the whole die, making sure that you can't see the die, if there is some on the socket latch (or on the green part,Mobile chips) then its not too important but some people may remove it, I personally don’t bother.

7- Place the heat sink down at a one or two degree angle and then turn it so that the mounting holes are all align, then wait a few minutes, this allows the air to escape.

8- Tighten the screws down in a star like pattern, make them all finger tight and then go around with a screw driver, the heatsink shouldn’t move at all. 

9- Make sure that it is all tight and reassemble you computer.

Thermal paste doesn’t last long and should ideally be replaced yearly.

 

Sure, Ill get back to you in a few.

[JakeNTech]

Just now, Datoneguywithpcproblems said:

Sure, Ill get back to you in a few.

OK cool, remember to quote me so I know you have replied. 

[AlfeT]

1 hour ago, fixitnow said:

OK cool, remember to quote me so I know you have replied. 

No dice. Maximum at the moment is 77. Oh and I forgot to mention, when I alt tab out of the game for a minute, and alt tab back in the fps shoots back up for about a minute, then falls straight down again.

[AlfeT]

49 minutes ago, Datoneguywithpcproblems said:

No dice. Maximum at the moment is 77. Oh and I forgot to mention, when I alt tab out of the game for a minute, and alt tab back in the fps shoots back up for about a minute, then falls straight down again.

Nevermind, looks like i found out whats wrong. I never checked GPU temps. It was reaching up to almost 100 C. I think its time for my system to hang up the towel.

[JakeNTech]

13 minutes ago, Datoneguywithpcproblems said:

Nevermind, looks like i found out whats wrong. I never checked GPU temps. It was reaching up to almost 100 C. I think its time for my system to hang up the towel.

Just change the paste and you should be fine, do it the way I put and you should be ok, the GPU will probably be part of the main heatsink or separately. Thermal paste only lasts 3-4 years at best.