Building a New PC

[Slaxc]

I'm looking to start a brand new setup from scratch. I picked out some parts from pcpartpicker and would like to get some feedback on the build. I will mostly be gaming and not much video rendering or streaming or any of that stuff. I don't play many games as of now but would like to branch into graphic intensive games once I get this new pc. I'm looking for the best overall performance. I was debating heavily between the Intel i7 7700K and the RYZEN 7 1700. I'm new to this stuff so feel free to leave any suggestions or tips. 

Heres the link: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dz6Chq

[HKZeroFive]

If there's rendering and streaming involved, I'd still get the R7 1700. If it's purely intended for gaming, the i7-7700K makes more sense.

 

This build needs two things; faster memory and a SSD.

[Slaxc]

1 minute ago, HKZeroFive said:

If there's rendering and streaming involved, I'd still get the R7 1700. If it's purely intended for gaming, the i7-7700K makes more sense.

 

This build needs two things; faster memory and a SSD.

Do you have any suggestions in particular? If you could edit my pcpartpicker and send the link in here that would be fantastic. 

If I got the Intel I would need to change the motherboard as it wouldn't fit, if you have a better option for that I'd love to know.

Edited July 16, 2017 by Slaxc

[Slaxc]

A friend was helping me out with making this build, he mentioned the Ryzen has more cores and threads which will be much better in the near future. Any thoughts?

[Mooshi]

If you have the budget for that GPU, surely you can go with a ram kit that isn't so slow?

[Slaxc]

1 minute ago, Mooshi said:

If you have the budget for that GPU, surely you can go with a ram kit that isn't so slow?

Im literally completely new to this, never built a pc in my life. Please, leave suggestions. Thats why I made this thread

[Mooshi]

Just now, Slaxc said:

Im literally completely new to this, never built a pc in my life. Please, leave suggestions. Thats why I made this thread

It's not bad or anything. It's that Ryzen CPUs are a bit handicapped unless you feed it fast memory. Could also use a 240*GB SSD. Also for that CPU cooler, expect a couple business days to get the bracket to be able to mount it.

[Slaxc]

3 minutes ago, Mooshi said:

It's not bad or anything. It's that Ryzen CPUs are a bit handicapped unless you feed it fast memory. Could also use a 240*GB SSD. Also for that CPU cooler, expect a couple business days to get the bracket to be able to mount it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vRY3D8 Changed the storage, list different coolers please. Thanks a ton

[PineyCreek]

Do you have a hard cap on your budget?

[Mooshi]

4 minutes ago, Slaxc said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vRY3D8 Changed the storage, list different coolers please. Thanks a ton

The cooler is fine, I have an H7 right now cooling my 1600 haha

 

 I've ordered an AIO (updated sig to reflect what's arriving in a few days) because I'm not too thrilled at my temps currently for near 4Ghz. I also live in the desert in a room without AC so that also is why I'm upgrading cooling since summer. If you're able to, I'd try to have both an HDD and SSD since you can only do so much with a single SSD--I've tried. System is pretty solid spec wise, though.

[Slaxc]

1 minute ago, PineyCreek said:

Do you have a hard cap on your budget?

Id like to stay in the 1500-1800 range.

[Slaxc]

1 minute ago, Mooshi said:

The cooler is fine, I have an H7 right now cooling my 1600 haha

 

 I've ordered an AIO because I'm not too thrilled at my temps currently for near 4Ghz. I also live in the desert in a room without AC so that also is why I'm upgrading cooling since summer. If you're able to, I'd try to have both an HDD and SSD since you can only do so much with a single SSD--I've tried. System is pretty solid spec wise, though.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WRY3D8 What do you think about this? I really can't go much higher in price than that. I put in the 1800X to check out the price. Not sure if its a big deal compared to 1700

[RamiFede]

for your purposes, if you can buy a AMD Ryzen 7 1800X. and remember that with B350 chipset you can make only Crossfire (not SLI)

[Slaxc]

Just now, RamiFede said:

for your purposes, if you can buy a AMD Ryzen 7 1800X. and remember that with B350 chipset you can make only Crossfire (not SLI)

No idea what that means, sorry. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WRY3D8 I added the 1800X, not sure what the other stuff meant.

[Mooshi]

Just now, Slaxc said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WRY3D8 What do you think about this? I really can't go much higher in price than that. I put in the 1800X to check out the price. Not sure if its a big deal compared to 1700

 I wouldn't bother with the X chips if you're going to be overclocking since they don't guarantee a higher OC. That cooler also requires a separate bracket to work and Corsair charges for it while Cryorig sends one for free at request. Newer AIOs like the Fractal Celsius line and updated Nzxt Kraken have Ryzen AM4 mounting brackets included so you don't have to wait to use your new cooler. 

 

Stock cooler on the 1700 will be sufficient for around 3.7Ghz if you don't mind waiting for a bracket to send.

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, Slaxc said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WRY3D8 What do you think about this? I really can't go much higher in price than that. I put in the 1800X to check out the price. Not sure if its a big deal compared to 1700

the 1700 will be just as good while being Much cheaper and comes with a stock cooler, get that instead. the SSD plus is very mediocre, spend abit more on an SL308 instead. also your mobo doesn't support SLI, so spend abit more for an x370 board that supports it or save a few bucks and get a 550w PSU.

[PineyCreek]

Are you adverse to over-clocking?  If not I would go with the 1700 and sacrifice (potentially) around 200MHz based on reported average OC on the 1700.  Put the price difference into other parts.

[HKZeroFive]

12 minutes ago, Slaxc said:

Do you have any suggestions in particular? If you could edit my pcpartpicker and send the link in here that would be fantastic. 

If I got the Intel I would need to change the motherboard as it wouldn't fit, if you have a better option for that I'd love to know.

Kept it it in the same budget... it will perform about the same but now has a SSD and faster RAM:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($92.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($122.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($85.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($739.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1598.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-16 02:48 EDT-0400

 

19 minutes ago, Slaxc said:

A friend was helping me out with making this build, he mentioned the Ryzen has more cores and threads which will be much better in the near future. Any thoughts?

For gaming, it won't help. For streaming and rendering, it will.

[RamiFede]

i recomended 120 or 128 gb SSD for windows and some programs (like browsers) and 1tb HDD Seagate FireCuda, becose this is an hybrid drive, it has SSD Cache 8GB https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n28H99/seagate-firecuda-1tb-35-7200rpm-hybrid-internal-hard-drive-st1000dx002 

[Slaxc]

6 minutes ago, Mooshi said:

 I wouldn't bother with the X chips if you're going to be overclocking since they don't guarantee a higher OC. That cooler also requires a separate bracket to work and Corsair charges for it while Cryorig sends one for free at request. Newer AIOs like the Fractal Celsius line and updated Nzxt Kraken have Ryzen AM4 mounting brackets included so you don't have to wait to use your new cooler. 

 

Stock cooler on the 1700 will be sufficient for around 3.7Ghz if you don't mind waiting for a bracket to send.

Sorry I'm getting lost. Lots of stuff being thrown at me. I heard stock coolers are very ehhh and could cause issues. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DDQpsJ This is what I have, directly from that what changes do I make? I'm seriously sorry lol this stuff is confusing me man

[Slaxc]

11 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

Kept it it in the same budget... it will perform about the same but now has a SSD and faster RAM:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($92.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($122.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($85.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($739.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1598.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-16 02:48 EDT-0400

 

For gaming, it won't help. For streaming and rendering, it will.

Id rather not use the stock cooler, any recommendations?
 

[Mooshi]

4 minutes ago, Slaxc said:

Sorry I'm getting lost. Lots of stuff being thrown at me. I heard stock coolers are very ehhh and could cause issues. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DDQpsJ This is what I have, directly from that what changes do I make? I'm seriously sorry lol this stuff is confusing me man

That's super solid actually. And AMD's stock cooler is actually decent. It's the Intel one's you toss lol

[Slaxc]

Just now, Mooshi said:

That's super solid actually. And AMD's stock cooler is actually decent. It's the Intel one's you toss lol

I think id get lost with liquid cooling anywyas lol.... I heard bronze power supply is basically the same thing and thatd save me some money. Is that true?

 

One more thing, one of the recommendations was 128 gb SSD and a 1 TB SeaGate BarraCuda... would that be a good improvement to the build?

 

[Slaxc]

3 minutes ago, Mooshi said:

That's super solid actually. And AMD's stock cooler is actually decent. It's the Intel one's you toss lol

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HcBMNN This is with all the suggestions I believe, new storage, no 100$ cooler, and a different power supply. Thoughts?
 

[HKZeroFive]

3 minutes ago, Slaxc said:

Id rather not use the stock cooler, any recommendations?

It's actually rather decent. I dare say it's on par with the H7.