AMD and Intel CPU sockets.

[SilverOHM]

So, I am currently trying to decide on a good value budget cpu for my first gaming pc build. I first planned on using the pentium g4560 as I heard that it has good value but it uses the lga1151 cpu socket which has been around for a while now. I intel is planning on releasing a new generation of cpu's using a new cpu socket sometime soon, then I would rather go for an AMD cpu since they just released their new zen architecture. I am very inexperienced when it comes to this stuff as I am a first-time builder on a budget, but I want to choose a cpu that won't become obsolete in the coming years. I don't know if a cpu ould be considered obsolete if the manufacturer has already released a new cpu socket or not. Anyway, i'm very confused and what I would really like to know is if I should go with the pentium g4560(about $69) or something like the ryzen 5 1400(about $160) or ryzen 5 1500x(about $175). I'm looking for the one with the best value and the cpu socket that will allow me to upgrade in the future. For a budget gaming PC, would it be better to spend more money on the GPU and monitor rather than the CPU? Thanks in advance for your help.

Current pcpartpicker build(in case it's relevant): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sbHkKZ

[Billy_Mays]

How much is your budget 

[cashan]

If you original intensions was to build around the g4560. Wait for ryzen 3 as it will probably satisfy your needs. But if you want it now. It depends on your budget

 

[SilverOHM]

With my budget, i'm trying to stay below $800. Of course, i want to get the most bang for my buck. I want to be able to upgrade it in the future. Also, i'm a little confused as to which component demands more money than the next. For ex: gpu demands more money than the storage. 

[cymbalist]

45 minutes ago, SilverOHM said:

With my budget, i'm trying to stay below $800. Of course, i want to get the most bang for my buck. I want to be able to upgrade it in the future. Also, i'm a little confused as to which component demands more money than the next. For ex: gpu demands more money than the storage. 

Do you need everything or just a motherboard, ram, cpu and a gpu?

[SilverOHM]

21 minutes ago, cymbalist said:

Do you need everything or just a motherboard, ram, cpu and a gpu?

Well, i've posted a link to my current pcpartpicker build in my original post. Its built around the pentium g4560, but if i go with ryzen i might have to use a different motherboard. Im mainly concerned with upgradeability after intel or amd introduces a new cpu socket.

[cymbalist]

37 minutes ago, SilverOHM said:

Well, i've posted a link to my current pcpartpicker build in my original post. Its built around the pentium g4560, but if i go with ryzen i might have to use a different motherboard. Im mainly concerned with upgradeability after intel or amd introduces a new cpu socket.

Sorry i completely brain farted and missed that link, lemme have a look what i can do with that. You are aware you chose a micro ATX case?

To be honest when you look at the upgrade path the amd platform seems to be going to last till 2020, so with that in mind you could look at a cpu upgrade up till then. Intel seems to switch sockets very often so that might be a gamble. What i did was invest in a decent motherboard for upgrades later on. Ram is rather important for ryzen, the sweetspot seems to be 3000-3200mhz right now, so it's worth to invest in a 2x8 kit in those speeds.

This is what i got but there's no price added for the gpu so you could drop to a cheaper ryzen and ram to put towards a gpu.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fqHLgL

[SilverOHM]

20 minutes ago, cymbalist said:

Sorry i completely brain farted and missed that link, lemme have a look what i can do with that. You are aware you chose a micro ATX case?

To be honest when you look at the upgrade path the amd platform seems to be going to last till 2020, so with that in mind you could look at a cpu upgrade up till then. Intel seems to switch sockets very often so that might be a gamble. What i did was invest in a decent motherboard for upgrades later on. Ram is rather important for ryzen, the sweetspot seems to be 3000-3200mhz right now, so it's worth to invest in a 2x8 kit in those speeds.

Will edit the pcpartpicker link in in a few minutes.

So amd won't change there cpu socket until 2020?

[cymbalist]

Just now, SilverOHM said:

So amd won't change there cpu socket until 2020?

That's what they said a while ago and by looking at the range of cpu's they support on the  AM4 socket it looks like they will.

[SilverOHM]

44 minutes ago, cymbalist said:

That's what they said a while ago and by looking at the range of cpu's they support on the  AM4 socket it looks like they will.

Where did you hear them say this? 

[cymbalist]

There's been tons of post and articles from around and just before launch about this but still not a 100% guarantee they might drop an am4+ socket in 2 years. But they did say they weren't planning to change anything untill DDR5

 

[SilverOHM]

42 minutes ago, cymbalist said:

There's been tons of post and articles from around and just before launch about this but still not a 100% guarantee they might drop an am4+ socket in 2 years. But they did say they weren't planning to change anything untill DDR5

 

I see. I'll continue with my research but it was helpful to learn about how intel changes sockets often. Thanks for your help.