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Just now, DeezNoNos said:

and which psu?

One that will support as many cards as you want in the near future. So most likely a 1200-1500W one.

Currently I have a r9 270 OC to 1150 core 1515 mem and a i5-6500. Can I have some advice on how to start etherum mining and how profitable will it be for me. 

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Can't find numbers for the r9 270, but judging by the performance of a 270x, you're gonna have a bad time.

CPU is irrelevant since the MH/s is horrible, regardless of CPU.

https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/gpushack/gpushack-r9-270x/

 

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1 minute ago, revsilverspine said:

Can't find numbers for the r9 270, but judging by the performance of a 270x, you're gonna have a bad time.

CPU is irrelevant since the MH/s is horrible, regardless of CPU.

https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/gpushack/gpushack-r9-270x/

 

wait i mean in the down time of my pc i mine. Possible?

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Just now, DeezNoNos said:

wait i mean in the down time of my pc i mine. Possible?

possible? yes. Will it have significant gains? No.

The link I provided gives numbers for 24/7 operation. You're literally wasting money if you mine on that card (assuming you pay for electrocity)

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Just now, revsilverspine said:

possible? yes. Will it have significant gains? No.

The link I provided gives numbers for 24/7 operation. You're literally wasting money if you mine on that card (assuming you pay for electrocity)

ooh ok. So what can a cheap budget mining rig be? 

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Just now, DeezNoNos said:

ooh ok. So what can a cheap budget mining rig be? 

Doesn't exist.

The RX 480 is the best card to mine on ( https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/sapphire/radeon-rx-480-ethereum-mining/ ) and even with that you're looking at $1500 per year, 24/7 operation. Obviously no serious miner is going to mine with one card every now and then.

 

An L3+ Antminer is $1500 with a $9000 yearly return rate.

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1 minute ago, revsilverspine said:

Doesn't exist.

The RX 480 is the best card to mine on ( https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/sapphire/radeon-rx-480-ethereum-mining/ ) and even with that you're looking at $1500 per year, 24/7 operation. Obviously no serious miner is going to mine with one card every now and then.

 

An L3+ Antminer is $1500 with a $9000 yearly return rate.

so i buy a mining station thing. Anything for under $500

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Just now, DeezNoNos said:

so i buy a mining station thing. Anything for under $500

Nothing under $1000, last I checked

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3 minutes ago, revsilverspine said:

Nothing under $1000, last I checked

 

3 minutes ago, DeezNoNos said:

so i buy a mining station thing. Anything for under $500

 

5 minutes ago, revsilverspine said:

Doesn't exist.

The RX 480 is the best card to mine on ( https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/sapphire/radeon-rx-480-ethereum-mining/ ) and even with that you're looking at $1500 per year, 24/7 operation. Obviously no serious miner is going to mine with one card every now and then.

 

An L3+ Antminer is $1500 with a $9000 yearly return rate.

ASICs suck at mining Ethereum because Eth relies on memory transfers. It uses about 2.4GBs of VRAM whilst running, and sometime this year 2GB GPUs will just not be able to operate with it.

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ASICs suck at mining Ethereum because Eth relies on memory transfers. It uses about 2.4GBs of VRAM whilst running, and sometime this year 2GB GPUs will just not be able to operate with it.

I gave the ASIC as an example (it's actually a Litecoin miner)

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Just now, revsilverspine said:

I gave the ASIC as an example (it's actually a Litecoin miner)

But for the same price as an ASIC you can get a (full) rig with 2 RX 570s, overclock the memory on the cards and then mine with a short ROI time. 

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3 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

But for the same price as an ASIC you can get a (full) rig with 2 RX 570s, overclock the memory on the cards and then mine with a short ROI time. 

short ROI time assuming 24/7 operation. OP was looking at down-time operation (which can mean anything from 1h to 24h/d).

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I'd say try it out and see once you have some numbers to work off for risk and benefits.

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short ROI time assuming 27/7 operation. OP was looking at down-time operation (which can mean anything from 1h to 24h/d).

Which is why I said getting a full rig, so he can constantly mine on said rig whilst having his main one free for everything else.

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27/7

Damn, AMD even broke time.

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Damn, AMD even broke time.

blame Razer and their crap keyboards for that typo

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11 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

But for the same price as an ASIC you can get a (full) rig with 2 RX 570s, overclock the memory on the cards and then mine with a short ROI time. 

ROI?

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9 minutes ago, revsilverspine said:

short ROI time assuming 24/7 operation. OP was looking at down-time operation (which can mean anything from 1h to 24h/d).

if i buil;d a rig, i will mine 24/7

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Return of investment, the amount of time it takes for it to generate enough money to pay itself off.

can i use a cheap amd processor?

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1 minute ago, DeezNoNos said:

can i use a cheap amd processor?

You can literally use the cheapest processor that runs the OS you need. Eth mining is almost exclusively GPU based.

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Just now, TheRandomness said:

You can literally use the cheapest processor that runs the OS you need. Eth mining is almost exclusively GPU based.

the pulse itx works?

 

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Just now, TheRandomness said:

Any 570 or 580.

i mean cooling

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