RyZen Ram HELP PLEASE !!!

[BENNE]

So, I´m getting a ryzen 7 1700 chip and a b350 tomahawk motherboard, However, I don´t know what RAM to go with. PLEASE HELP! I have been looking at corsair vengeance lpx RAM but I don´t know if this model would work (CMK16GX4M4A2133C13) because this website (http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=166631) doesn´t have that exact model on it. It has everything the same but C13 at the end of my model name as C15 on the website. Would my Ram still work ?!?!?!

 

Thank you a bunch if you can help !!!

[iRileyx]

It would probably still work, but it isn't guarantee'd as its not on the list.

 

Seeing as you've not bought the ram yet, you could always just buy one that has the model number on the list, be alot easier.

[BENNE]

Thank you and btw. would I be able to overclock the RAM or would I need to buy faster RAM from the beginning. Any improvements in performance would help. I´m also on a budget so I´m thinking of getting 16gb of that kit used it´s 2133 mhz.

 

[stealth80]

Just get the fastest ram you can afford. Beta Bios's are already out using Agesa 1006 which offers multipliers upto 4000mhz and massive ram compatibility, it still aint perfect but its getting there. 

 

Don't get 2133 ram, it will gimp a ryzen massively in gaming, 3200mhz minimum in my opinion, I went from like 87 to 95 FPS RotTR benches just going from 2400 - 3200MHz ram speed and this was at 1440p, the jump would be even bigger at 1080P infact I will prove it for you now and run the bench at 1080P 2133 and my current 3333mhz (my ram is also not on the QVL but works at faster than its rated 3200mhz with loosened timings)

[BENNE]

Thanks a lot for the advice

 

[Ryujin2003]

8 minutes ago, BENNE said:

Thanks a lot for the advice

 

I've got a Ryzen 1700x, with X370 Carbon and LPX 3200 16 GB kit. Currently, maxed at 2666 but still working on getting a higher speed with adjusting settings.

[stealth80]

9 minutes ago, BENNE said:

Thanks a lot for the advice

 

NP

 

Here's the results

 

2133mhz ram

 

 

3333mhz ram

 

 

 

See my reasoning? over 30% better gaming FPS this is with a 1080GTX at 1080P

[stealth80]

Just now, Ryujin2003 said:

I've got a Ryzen 1700x, with X370 Carbon and LPX 3200 16 GB kit. Currently, maxed at 2666 but still working on getting a higher speed with adjusting settings.

try 1.5v on the DDR and 1.25v SOC and loosen timings, mine works 20-20-20-40-60-2T @ 3333mhz 

[DocSwag]

6 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

try 1.5v on the DDR and 1.25v SOC and loosen timings, mine works 20-20-20-40-60-2T @ 3333mhz 

Purty sure until the agesa update comes that's not possible on Ryzen unless it's a board that supports BCLK overclocking (which is the taichi, crosshair vi hero, gaming k4 pro, and the Gigabyte k boards I think). 3200 is max without BCLK

[stealth80]

31 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Purty sure until the agesa update comes that's not possible on Ryzen unless it's a board that supports BCLK overclocking (which is the taichi, crosshair vi hero, gaming k4 pro, and the Gigabyte k boards I think). 3200 is max without BCLK

nope, it is but you need a beta bios.

 

Mines from Gigabyte

 

http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/886/am4-beta-bios-thread

 

Take note of the ram speeds and BCLK 

 

[stealth80]

MSI is here, not sure what Agesa their most recent ones are at:

 

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=283344.0

[DocSwag]

6 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

nope, it is but you need a beta bios.

 

Mines from Gigabyte

 

http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/886/am4-beta-bios-thread

 

Take note of the ram speeds and BCLK 

 

Exactly, it has agesa 1.0.0.6, hence why you can't go higher  

[stealth80]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Exactly, it has agesa 1.0.0.6, hence why you can go higher  

Fixed it for you 

[Ryujin2003]

38 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Purty sure until the agesa update comes that's not possible on Ryzen unless it's a board that supports BCLK overclocking (which is the taichi, crosshair vi hero, gaming k4 pro, and the Gigabyte k boards I think). 3200 is max without BCLK

No, I've read in other boards that Ryzen due to how it defaults timings, something about command timings if 1T? I'm not a RAM expert yet, so still learning some of that. Generally resulting in having to double the rest of the timings. Some people say it works, others still have compatibility issues.

[DocSwag]

9 minutes ago, Ryujin2003 said:

No, I've read in other boards that Ryzen due to how it defaults timings, something about command timings if 1T? I'm not a RAM expert yet, so still learning some of that. Generally resulting in having to double the rest of the timings. Some people say it works, others still have compatibility issues.

I don't really know much about that, so I can't comment  

[tim11111111]

Get Corsiar LPX 3200mhz ram.I have my tomahawk running a white variant at the rated speed.

--check qvl here by going into compatibility then memory https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html#support-mem-2

found these that are on the QVL https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233867

https://www.amazon.com/cmk32gx4m4b3200c16w/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Acmk32gx4m4b3200c16w

--Just look for bios updates with the new Agesa 1.0.0.6. found beta v1.62 https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=283344.msg1615503#msg1615503 which should have the agesa updated  since my tomahawk arctic mobo got the update before they releases v1.62