new PC build

[Dogsparky]

so my friend has a laptop that he got for about 150 dollars it was able to run some of his games but now it just is a potato, has a 2957u in it and is crap i want to build him something that is fairly decent and can run starcraft 2 at decent settings, along with arma 3, he was having troubles with that lately,and minecraft also lags so something between 400-600 dollars USD is what i was looking at

[genexis_x]

G4560 + RX 470/570/480/580, or,

Get a used PC with i5/i7 and throw a 1050TI/more RAM/a SSD/whatever in it

[Ordinarily_Greater]

@ZM Fongis right!

[Dogsparky]

23 hours ago, ZM Fong said:

G4560 + RX 470/570/480/580, or,

Get a used PC with i5/i7 and throw a 1050TI/more RAM/a SSD/whatever in it

i kind of forgot about a g4560 thanks, 

[Dalitten]

On 5/10/2017 at 0:40 PM, Dogsparky said:

i kind of forgot about a g4560 thanks, 

Just putting it out there. Arma 3 is a REALLY CPU intense game. Even a decent CPU can struggle. So dont expect too much out of the g4560 even tho its still a very capable processor.

[Dogsparky]

On 5/11/2017 at 0:22 PM, Dalitten said:

Just putting it out there. Arma 3 is a REALLY CPU intense game. Even a decent CPU can struggle. So dont expect too much out of the g4560 even tho its still a very capable processor.

will be noted, if i have to i can try or save a bit more for a 7600 or something like that

 

[Ordinarily_Greater]

15 hours ago, Dogsparky said:

will be noted, if i have to i can try or save a bit more for a 7600 or something like that

 

No, don't go for Kabylake. Skylake is okay

[Dalitten]

1 hour ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

No, don't go for Kabylake. Skylake is okay

Yeah, I would take the i5-6600k over the 7600k because there is barely any improvement in performance, and temps are much higher. But could you tell is an estimate of your budget? The motherboard you choose will have an impact aswell. If you want a 6600k, you will need a Z270 to overclock(Z270 are usually a bit more expensive).

 

On the other hand, you could go for a Ryzen 1400 and a B350. Which is a overall better CPU, at least in productivity and gaming is simular. Would like some more info on budget, what games, will he be doing anything other than gaming?

[Ordinarily_Greater]

1 minute ago, Dalitten said:

Yeah, I would take the i5-6600k over the 7600k because there is barely any improvement in performance, and temps are much higher. But could you tell is an estimate of your budget? The motherboard you choose will have an impact aswell. If you want a 6600k, you will need a Z270 to overclock(Z270 are usually a bit more expensive).

 

On the other hand, you could go for a Ryzen 1400 and a B350. Which is a overall better CPU, at least in productivity and gaming is simular. Would like some more info on budget, what games, will he be doing anything other than gaming?

Hi! Are you new to this lovely community (that's what I think)?

Anyways would Z170 work for overclock too?

[Dalitten]

Just now, Ordinarily_Greater said:

Hi! Are you new to this lovely community (that's what I think)?

Anyways would Z170 work for overclock too?

Oh sorry my bad, if you want a 6600k you should go for a Z170. And yes I'm new to Linus Tech Tips Forums, but not new into tech

[Dogsparky]

12 hours ago, Dalitten said:

Yeah, I would take the i5-6600k over the 7600k because there is barely any improvement in performance, and temps are much higher. But could you tell is an estimate of your budget? The motherboard you choose will have an impact aswell. If you want a 6600k, you will need a Z270 to overclock(Z270 are usually a bit more expensive).

 

On the other hand, you could go for a Ryzen 1400 and a B350. Which is a overall better CPU, at least in productivity and gaming is simular. Would like some more info on budget, what games, will he be doing anything other than gaming?

wasn't talking about k since he won't be overclocking since he doesn't know what overclocking is so a non overclocking motherboard is what i am getting anyways 

[Dalitten]

7 hours ago, Dogsparky said:

wasn't talking about k since he won't be overclocking since he doesn't know what overclocking is so a non overclocking motherboard is what i am getting anyways 

The reason i suggest the "k" is mostly for future proofing. Yeah the non k will work today but in a few years it will become slower, and a overclock would help with that. But since the budget is 4-600$ its hard to squeeze that in.

 

Instead of a 6600 non k, why not go for a Ryzen 1400, which is a cheaper buy, and the clock speeds are fairly simular. Plus you get 4 cores and 8 threads at a lower price.

[Dogsparky]

On 5/14/2017 at 7:00 AM, Dalitten said:

The reason i suggest the "k" is mostly for future proofing. Yeah the non k will work today but in a few years it will become slower, and a overclock would help with that. But since the budget is 4-600$ its hard to squeeze that in.

 

Instead of a 6600 non k, why not go for a Ryzen 1400, which is a cheaper buy, and the clock speeds are fairly simular. Plus you get 4 cores and 8 threads at a lower price.

i could think about ryzen but i don't think he really needs that many threads since he said he would just upgrade in the future after he gets the money him self anyways a few years down the road 

 

[Dalitten]

Yeah he probabl wont be using all those threads, but still I'm just thinking why not? Its cheaper, and more powerful. If games suddenly start using more threads he would maybe regret that 4core/4thread CPU.

Quick PCpartpicker comparison

 

Ryzen 1400: Total 307$ (Overall a better CPU)

i5 6600: Total 360$

[elis]

I suggest he goes for Ryzen and upgrades RAM/GPU in the future. Maybe SLI or Crossfire

[dude49]

I would recommend this build as a great alternative to a g4560 build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($163.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($78.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $593.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-16 06:47 EDT-0400

[Dogsparky]

17 hours ago, dude49 said:

I would recommend this build as a great alternative to a g4560 build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($163.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($78.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $593.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-16 06:47 EDT-0400

thanks i can work with that and maybe update it depending on sales, if i can get enough money for something else

 

[Dogsparky]

22 hours ago, Dalitten said:

Yeah he probabl wont be using all those threads, but still I'm just thinking why not? Its cheaper, and more powerful. If games suddenly start using more threads he would maybe regret that 4core/4thread CPU.

Quick PCpartpicker comparison

 

Ryzen 1400: Total 307$ (Overall a better CPU)

i5 6600: Total 360$

they aren't that expensive here, the 6600k is only like 200 

[Dogsparky]

7 minutes ago, Dogsparky said:

thanks i can work with that and maybe update it depending on sales, if i can get enough money for something else

 

though i am still wanting to go for Intel because i don't exactly like the compatibility on Ram apparently and he would prefer to use the Ram i have which is g.skill ripjaws 5 so unless they work i am not sure i am still thinking a 7600