upgrade Upgrading crappy old computer

[blbalsdfkjivbvwerlo3244534]

I have an old computer (the only computer in my house) that can barely run TF2 at 60 FPS at the lowest settings with TF2mate. It has some crappy x blade "gaming" case with these specs:

CPU: Pentium Dual-Core E5300 2.4 Ghz

Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO (obviously not for gaming)

Motherboard: BIOSTAR G31-M7 TE

Memory: Patriot Memory 2x2GB DDR2

Storage: 465 GB Hitachi HDD

Power Supply: generic trash, rated for 450w but that seems wrong

 

I plan to buy:

Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1x 8GB) 2400MHz DDR4 - https://www.cclonline.com/product/200792/CMK8GX4M1A2400C16/Desktop-Memory/Corsair-Vengeance-Lpx-8GB-Module-Ddr4-2400MHZ-1-2v-Standard-Dimm/RAM3201/?siteID=8BacdVP0GFs-aTDqJQSvYgTp9KZ8owFxwg

Palit GeForce GTX 1050 StormX 2GB Graphics Card - https://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Palit+GeForce+GTX+1050+StormX+2GB+Graphics+Card+?productId=66809

Intel Pentium G4560 Kaby Lake Desktop Processor/CPU - https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Processors/Intel+CPUs/Pentium-+Socket+1151+Kaby+Lake/Intel+Pentium+G4560+Kaby+Lake+Desktop+Processor/CPU?productId=67247

ASUS PRIME B250M-K Motherboard - https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-PRIME-B250M-K-Motherboard-Socket/dp/B01MZ3YFJH/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1493671778&sr=1-2&keywords=asus+prime+b250m-a

Corsair CX Series CX450M 450W 80 Plus Bronze Certified Modular ATX PSU - http://www.ebuyer.com/745621-corsair-cx-series-cx450m-450w-80-plus-bronze-certified-modular-atx-psu-cp-9020101-uk

and the cheapest 120 GB ssd i can find when i start buying.

I plan to buy the 1050 first to give the computer a slight boost (hopefully), then (because my current motherboard is a different socket and my current power supply doesnt have a cpu power connector) the CPU, motherboard and power supply together, then the RAM last or with the CPU because my current motherboard supports 4GB RAM max.

So, am i stupid? This is my first build/upgrade, so some suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Edited May 7, 2017 by coop152
Changed Power Supply again and also cheaper/better(?) memory

[manikyath]

few things:

- with all the worry for your old PSU, corsair VS is equally terrible

- try to squeeze in a 240GB SSD, the price actually isnt that different, and 240GB is actually quite comfortable size, compared to a rather tight 120GB.

[blbalsdfkjivbvwerlo3244534]

1 minute ago, manikyath said:

- with all the worry for your old PSU, corsair VS is equally terrible

Any better recommendations?

2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

- try to squeeze in a 240GB SSD, the price actually isnt that different, and 240GB is actually quite comfortable size, compared to a rather tight 120GB.

Huh, just found a kingston one. 240 = £80~ but 120 = £60~?

guess i am going for 240 gb then. Thanks for the tip!

[pelark]

If you can afford it, get a better PSU. Take a look at this.

 

[manikyath]

Just now, coop152 said:

Any better recommendations?

my generic rule of thumb: corsair RMx or up (thats RMx, RMi, AX, AXi, HX, HXi)

EVGA G2, P2, and some others i dont remember, stay away from B

anything seasonic.

 

that should cover most of the power supply market

[blbalsdfkjivbvwerlo3244534]

2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

my generic rule of thumb: corsair RMx or up (thats RMx, RMi, AX, AXi, HX, HXi)

 

so, this?

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/550w-corsair-rm550x-series-80-plus-gold-full-modular-single-rail-458a-plus12v-1x135mm-fan-atx-psu

[manikyath]

Just now, coop152 said:

so, this?

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/550w-corsair-rm550x-series-80-plus-gold-full-modular-single-rail-458a-plus12v-1x135mm-fan-atx-psu

for example.

[blbalsdfkjivbvwerlo3244534]

10 minutes ago, manikyath said:

for example.

changed

[Guest]

In my experiance, generic pre-built systems have an ok PSU, where the fans might fail. There have been topics about that subject. So you could use it again.

 

But you said that PSU was missing a CPU power connector. You mean the 4-pin that goes on the motherboard? Or am I a bit slow... If you are talking about the 4-pin connector, I find your PSU strange. I used to have an older PSU (considering the release date of your old CPU), which did already have that square 4-pin connector. Did you look closely?

[blbalsdfkjivbvwerlo3244534]

Just now, Dutch-stoner said:

In my experiance, generic pre-built systems have an ok PSU, where the fans might fail. There have been topics about that subject. So you could use it again.

 

But you said that PSU was missing a CPU power connector. You mean the 4-pin that goes on the motherboard? Or am I a bit slow... If you are talking about the 4-pin connector, I find your PSU strange. I used to have an older PSU (considering the release date of your old CPU), which did already have that square 4-pin connector. Did you look closely?

I am talking about the 4+4 EPS cable.  Considering the motherboard doesn't have anywhere to put it, it doesn't seem unreasonable that it isn't there but i need it for the upgrade.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, coop152 said:

Considering the motherboard doesn't have anywhere to put it, it doesn't seem unreasonable that it isn't there

Agreed that it's not unreasonable. However, it can be cheaper to produce generic PSU's for pre-built systems with that connector. Might be moar work to remove it, instead of just leaving it there. I would go and check.

 

Also, you aren't buying the highest end CPU. And I have to say: don't know facts and I am no expert. But... My current motherboard does have a 4+4 pin connector. But it came with a (prebuilt) 300 watt PSU, with only the 4 pin connector. And the motherboard only needed the 4-pin connector to work propperly. So you might want to read about this issue with your future motherboard. (after checking if you have a single 4 pin, from the 4+4 pin thingy)

 

*PS: hope this post made sence, getting a bit couch locked atm.

[.Apex.]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cPFHjc

 

this is a much better pick, you don't need a fully modular PSU for a system like this, it's overkill.

 

you're only paying around 50 Pounds more for a HUGE increase in performance, this should last you 3-4 years while gaming on 1080p on high to ultra settings on AA and AAA titles with probably around or more than 60 fps.

 

it's your choice, or you could swap out that PSU for the one that i picked in the list. 

[blbalsdfkjivbvwerlo3244534]

16 minutes ago, syn2112 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cPFHjc

 

this is a much better pick, you don't need a fully modular PSU for a system like this, it's overkill.

 

you're only paying around 50 Pounds more for a HUGE increase in performance, this should last you 3-4 years while gaming on 1080p on high to ultra settings on AA and AAA titles with probably around or more than 60 fps.

 

it's your choice, or you could swap out that PSU for the one that i picked in the list. 

I actually will nab that PSU, thanks

However, after changing the PSU, that difference is actually more than £50.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ztWyBP

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| The upgrades i have listed

[.Apex.]

2 minutes ago, coop152 said:

I actually will nab that PSU, thanks

However, after changing the PSU, that difference is actually more than £50.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ztWyBP

it's 65 pounds i understand, but it's your choice if you wanna pay that extra  because the difference in performance is pretty big. but if you're not interested in gaming or only play games like CS GO or Overwatch and non demanding titles like that, the cheaper system is a pretty good budget pick. nothing wrong with it.

[blbalsdfkjivbvwerlo3244534]

Just now, syn2112 said:

it's 65 pounds i understand, but it's your choice if you wanna pay that extra  because the difference in performance is pretty big. but if you're not interested in gaming or only play games like CS GO or Overwatch and non demanding titles like that, the cheaper system is a pretty good budget pick. nothing wrong with it.

You hit the game nail right in the head

it's just that i could put that £65 towards a bigger ssd or maybe a not shit case

[.Apex.]

you can always buy an SSD or a Case down the road, but you'll always pay lots of money if you're changing systems. you could use your current case for a while until you save up more money.

 

i'm just advising you

[blbalsdfkjivbvwerlo3244534]

1 minute ago, syn2112 said:

you can always buy an SSD or a Case down the road, but you'll always pay lots of money if you're changing systems. you could use your current case for a while until you save up more money.

Yeah. The issue is that my money is spread wide, so ill have enough money for the 1050 in 2 weeks, then i'll probably get enough for the rest in a few months. I didn't actually specify, but i'm only 16 and going off gift money.

[.Apex.]

and also remember the AM4 motherboard will be supported for the next 4 years, unlike Intel which will be obsolete the next year.

 

[.Apex.]

oh okay i get you

 

[blbalsdfkjivbvwerlo3244534]

Just now, syn2112 said:

and also remember the AM4 motherboard will be supported for the next 4 years, unlike Intel which will be obsolete the next year.

 

I'm not really looking at upgradability, just a good computer for now. Thanks for all the tips, though