Building First PC. Thoughts, Concerns?

[Rakso]

Hey there everyone. Thanks for taking the time here.             Attached is a picture of 4 builds I have layed out

Those labeled "Cheap" I'm focusing more on performance, where as in those labeled "Cool" are also built for looks. Some of the prices listed are here and there, but for the most part should be fairly accurate from Amazon and Newegg. 

As I started the list, I was originally planning on building the "Intel Cool". I can be a cheapskate, Which is how I arrived at, "Do I reeeaallllyy need a computer that looks that good too?" Keep in mind, I think it would look super rad.

While the savings with the "Cheap" builds isn't a whole lot, If i decide that route, my choices are either: pocket the savings, upgrade to 1080, upgrade to 1080TI, or some other upgrade you might suggest. (I have listed some components I could consider, on the side of the lists)

 

Location: USA

Budget: I tried to make everything bang for buck already, without dropping much performance. I can go a little over the prices of the builds that are listed, just keeping Cool and Frugal in mind.

Aim: Normal gaming. Cant say how hard just yet. Currently play League of Legends, mmorpgs. So I know I could get away with a 1060. But I wanna keep my options open and also future proof. I dont really plan on upgrading for a while

Monitors: As you saw, they are 24" 1920x1080 144hz. Doing that because I dont want to spend too much on a monitor at the moment. The Predator is just a placeholder because I still have to do more research into freesync and gsync(If I can game good without them, what frames I have to stay in/what hertz monitor I need to be able to avoid tearing/lag) I am opting for under 4ms response time. Keeping 1440p and dual monitors in mind for the future.

Why: My computer right now is running just fine, so I dont REALLY need to upgrade. But I've gotten into the building hobby(or the idea, since I havent built one yet). I watch all these youtubers, etc. (You guys are LTT are spectacular, my favorites!) So yeah I wanna build one. Plus my little brothers computer suuuucckkkss, so I'm gonna give him my current one. 

 

NOTE: You might laugh or say why am I posting so soon, but I really like to do research and I guess im just getting ahead of myself. But im gonna be buying all the parts on Black Friday/Cyber Monday 7 months from now(I'm cheap). I know a lot can change in that time, but hey, lets see how this goes. Also gives time for me to see how the Ryzen vs Intel plays out more. Because right off that bat you can say, "If you're just normal gaming, why do you need a 1600" but its kinda cheaper than the 7600k and can do other stuff better(I think) in case I ever get into streaming or other stuff.

 

Well thanks SO much if you've read through all my blabbering, I really appreciate it. Let me know if I've missed something. And what you think of the builds, what you would change/keep, and anything else. Stay Classy!

[HunterSkater429]

can you make a pcpartpicker link of the rigs? would of been faster then what you did in the first place with accurate prices 

[Rakso]

4 minutes ago, HunterSkater429 said:

can you make a pcpartpicker link of the rigs? would of been faster then what you did in the first place with accurate prices 

 I chose this style so that I(and others) can see them side by side, and thought it would be easier. If partpicker lists would be easier, I can make an account and do that. Sounds like you're saying I can do 1 link for the 4 rigs, so Ill check it out. As for prices I wanna order as much as I can from Amazon, because Ill have free shipping, credit card money back. So I dont mind spending some more to buy at amazon, except when the price difference is pretty big, then I went to newegg

[Droidbot]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.44 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($117.49 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF Z270 MARK 2 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($134.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($93.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($78.49 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($248.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Keyboard: Corsair STRAFE RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($122.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Corsair M65 PRO RGB FPS Wired Optical Mouse  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1945.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 04:18 EDT-0400

 

rolls eyes

[Blackhole890]

i'd go what @Droidbot suggested but this one would be perfect if you afford, better psu and 1080 ti:

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kkmHKZ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kkmHKZ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.44 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($117.49 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($93.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($699.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($248.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Keyboard: Corsair STRAFE RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($122.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Corsair M65 PRO RGB FPS Wired Optical Mouse  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2171.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 04:22 EDT-0400

[Droidbot]

Just now, Blackhole890 said:

i'd go what @Droidbot suggested but this one would be perfect if you afford, better psu and 1080 ti:

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kkmHKZ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kkmHKZ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.44 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($117.49 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($93.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($699.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($248.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Keyboard: Corsair STRAFE RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($122.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Corsair M65 PRO RGB FPS Wired Optical Mouse  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2171.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 04:22 EDT-0400

EVGA B2 could shave money off. It's quite a good unit, essentially a semi-modular G2 - same manufacturer, same everything. Even when reviewed it was tested under 80+ Gold standards and got through. 

[Rakso]

I dig your builds guys. Definitely gonna look into them.

I forgot to put in the build that the ssd was 960 evo m.2 which does 3200mb read 1500mb write to the 850 evo's 540mb read 520 mb write. But now that I think about it. while it probably is worth the $30, I wouldnt really need it to go that fast.

So question on the case. Ive seen around and also seems like the S340 elite might have some airflow problems seeing as how there is no side ventilation just a little on the top and bottom. For the builds I did with just a 1070. But running a 1080 or 1080ti. Do you think it'll stay cool enough and have enough airflow for the cpu?

I feel like I know what the answer is, and have probably seen people running same parts in same case, lol. But just thought i'd ask

[M.A.P]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DPDNjc
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DPDNjc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V5 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($251.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Corsair) 
Motherboard: ASRock E3V5 Performance Gaming/OC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($132.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: ADATA XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($86.48 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($66.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($699.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($248.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Keyboard: Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($115.00 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Razer Taipan Wired Laser Mouse  ($58.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2020.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 05:23 EDT-0400

 

You can OC that Xeon with that AsRock mobo.

[Blackhole890]

39 minutes ago, M.A.P said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DPDNjc
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DPDNjc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V5 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($251.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Corsair) 
Motherboard: ASRock E3V5 Performance Gaming/OC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($132.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: ADATA XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($86.48 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($66.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($699.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($248.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Keyboard: Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($115.00 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Razer Taipan Wired Laser Mouse  ($58.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2020.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 05:23 EDT-0400

 

You can OC that Xeon with that AsRock mobo.

well, thats a crappy psu and i think that the i7 would have hugely more performance against this xeon (by 25%) 

[Blackhole890]

1 hour ago, Droidbot said:

EVGA B2 could shave money off. It's quite a good unit, essentially a semi-modular G2 - same manufacturer, same everything. Even when reviewed it was tested under 80+ Gold standards and got through. 

thats why, same psu but gold rated so he/she can pay less on electrical bills

[Droidbot]

55 minutes ago, Rakso said:

I dig your builds guys. Definitely gonna look into them.

I forgot to put in the build that the ssd was 960 evo m.2 which does 3200mb read 1500mb write to the 850 evo's 540mb read 520 mb write. But now that I think about it. while it probably is worth the $30, I wouldnt really need it to go that fast.

So question on the case. Ive seen around and also seems like the S340 elite might have some airflow problems seeing as how there is no side ventilation just a little on the top and bottom. For the builds I did with just a 1070. But running a 1080 or 1080ti. Do you think it'll stay cool enough and have enough airflow for the cpu?

I feel like I know what the answer is, and have probably seen people running same parts in same case, lol. But just thought i'd ask

it should be fine with a 1080 or 1080Ti, they can cool themselves really fucking well, surprisingly. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.44 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Enermax ETS-T50 AXE (White) 62.3 CFM CPU Cooler  ($51.99 @ Directron) 
Motherboard: MSI Z170A SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($112.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($80.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($66.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Fury 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: Dell S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($499.00 @ Adorama) 
Keyboard: Turtle Beach IMPACT 500 Wired Standard Keyboard  ($49.95 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech G600 MMO Gaming Mouse Wired Laser Mouse  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2008.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 06:06 EDT-0400

[Droidbot]

43 minutes ago, M.A.P said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DPDNjc
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DPDNjc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V5 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($251.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Corsair) 
Motherboard: ASRock E3V5 Performance Gaming/OC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($132.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: ADATA XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($86.48 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($66.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($699.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($248.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Keyboard: Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($115.00 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Razer Taipan Wired Laser Mouse  ($58.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2020.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 05:23 EDT-0400

 

You can OC that Xeon with that AsRock mobo.

Or... 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.44 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($117.49 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF Z270 MARK 2 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($134.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($93.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($699.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($78.49 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Acer GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($182.99 @ Best Buy) 
Keyboard: Corsair STRAFE RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($122.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Corsair M65 PRO RGB FPS Wired Optical Mouse  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2089.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 06:07 EDT-0400

 

[Rakso]

Thanks everyone. Believe it or not, all really helpful.

One thing while I have you here. As mentioned, new to pc building and such. So overclocking is just a little scary, but with watching vids and reading I can do it no problem. Only thing is that I'm not sure how long I am supposed to/can safely keep it. If I take the 7700k up to 5ghz and also OC the GPU would I only keep that for that gaming session then go back and put it back to normal? Or what is a safe OC that I can just leave there without causing the parts to wear out faster.

 

Also, I dont believe any of the monitors(except the dell) you guys have suggested have had Gsync. Does that mean I dont really need it? I wont really experience tearing and too much lag? Are there certain thresholds I should stay in so that I can avoid all that?

[HunterSkater429]

10 hours ago, Rakso said:

 I chose this style so that I(and others) can see them side by side, and thought it would be easier. If partpicker lists would be easier, I can make an account and do that. Sounds like you're saying I can do 1 link for the 4 rigs, so Ill check it out. As for prices I wanna order as much as I can from Amazon, because Ill have free shipping, credit card money back. So I dont mind spending some more to buy at amazon, except when the price difference is pretty big, then I went to newegg

im just super lazy, and i know a lot of others are too and they see no pcpartpicker or like something like that doc and just click off. not good but its true