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Best Windows VPN?

anoor9000
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I usually recommend making your own. It's the cheapest, most secure, and has the most options.

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https everywhere if you're just looking for security

 

privacy, a free VPN is not a good choice.

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138 is a good number.

 

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8 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

I usually recommend making your own. It's the cheapest, most secure, and has the most options.

Any way of making one that one could take, say, in a backpack?

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1 minute ago, TheGhzGuy said:

Any way of making one that one could take, say, in a backpack?

If you're doing it right the VPN won't be a physical object, get a cheap VPS hosted in a data center that is both close to your physical location and has good routing to your home ISP.

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3 minutes ago, TheGhzGuy said:

Any way of making one that one could take, say, in a backpack?

VPS bro

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Just now, SamStrecker said:

VPS bro

 

1 minute ago, KuJoe said:

If you're doing it right the VPN won't be a physical object, get a cheap VPS hosted in a data center that is both close to your physical location and has good routing to your home ISP.

 

 

2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

rent a box in a datacenter, you dont even need a backpack for that :D

Good to know. Off to Google to learn more about it!

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talking about renting a box aside.. tunnelbear? they do great for me the once or twice a month i use them on my phone :P

Too exspensive, too slow, and I don't trust them

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2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

talking about renting a box aside.. tunnelbear? they do great for me the once or twice a month i use them on my phone :P

I just use Tor on my phone :/

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Just now, manikyath said:

why tho? that sounds like specificly not trusting them, or do you mean dont trust any vpn provider?

 

also, $50/y is pretty cheap compared to a decent VPS.

I don't trust any VPN provider. I know they are based out of Canada which helps. Most VPSs that are needed to run OpenVPN can be found for $5-$20 a year.

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If you don't trust your ISP with your data, why would you trust a VPN provider? They can make a lot of claims but unless you have access to their servers you can't tell what is being logged or who is watching. Now of course if you setup your own VPN server with a hosting provider then you have your contact info attached to a specific IP, but if you chose the right hosting provider your privacy should be protected in most cases.

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10 hours ago, KuJoe said:

If you don't trust your ISP with your data, why would you trust a VPN provider? They can make a lot of claims but unless you have access to their servers you can't tell what is being logged or who is watching. Now of course if you setup your own VPN server with a hosting provider then you have your contact info attached to a specific IP, but if you chose the right hosting provider your privacy should be protected in most cases.

But don't the same questions apply in that situation?

 

How do you know that your VPS provider isn't keeping logs? How is this different/better compared with a dedicated VPN provider?

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But don't the same questions apply in that situation?

 

How do you know that your VPS provider isn't keeping logs? How is this different/better compared with a dedicated VPN provider?

Logs of encrypted packets are useless if you use decent encryption. If you run the server, you control what is logged and how strong the encryption is.

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Logs of encrypted packets are useless if you use decent encryption. If you run the server, you control what is logged and how strong the encryption is.

I'm an idiot, I thought that the box's OS could monitor traffic in plain text of each VM :P

 

But with a VPS provider you don't controll the server as such right? You control a VM hosted by the server?

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I'm quite happy with Private Internet Access.  It's not free, but don't be a cheap bastard, it's only $40 a year.  Just make sure you turn up the encryption level. It's set to SHA-1 by default, but that was broken awhile ago. 

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I'm an idiot, I thought that the box's OS could monitor traffic in plain text of each VM :P

 

But with a VPS provider you don't controll the server as such right? You control a VM hosted by the server?

Correct, you can't control the host node but you do get your own VM on the server. If you're connected to a VPN the traffic is encrypted between your PC and the VPN, unfortunately anything outside of the VPN server might not be encrypted but if a hosting provider wanted to log traffic it would take an enormous amount of disk space which is why I always choose smaller providers where traffic logging would be too expensive for them to consider.

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Correct, you can't control the host node but you do get your own VM on the server. If you're connected to a VPN the traffic is encrypted between your PC and the VPN, unfortunately anything outside of the VPN server might not be encrypted but if a hosting provider wanted to log traffic it would take an enormous amount of disk space which is why I always choose smaller providers where traffic logging would be too expensive for them to consider.

I see...

 

Can you give an example of a VPS provider you would use for this application? You peaked my interest with this VPN in a VPS concept.

 

I assume that by your criteria something like OVH would be out of the question...despite them offering a VPS for 2,99€/mo, which is quite cheap imo.

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1 minute ago, MoraisGT said:

I see...

 

Can you give an example of a VPS provider you would use for this application? You peaked my interest with this VPN in a VPS concept.

 

I assume that by your criteria something like OVH would be out of the question...despite them offering a VPS for 2,99€/mo.

OVH would be a good choice because the privacy laws in France are pretty strong from what I've read (although I've also read that OVH is sponsored by the French government so if you trust a government potentially having control over your data that's up to you).

 

As for VPS providers, I don't think I'm a good person to ask that since I own a VPS company so my opinions would be seen as bias. :D

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Torrentfreak does a list every year that I find helpful. I chose Private Internet Access because not only would they not give records to any authorities who came calling but they don't keep records at all. You can't be forced to give up what you don't have. They also have lots of payment options. I choose to pay with an anonymous prepaid credit card for that added level of privacy.

https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-services-anonymous-review-2017-170304/

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