Wait for Ryzen 5? Yay or nay?

[Jacob Canale]

Hey Guys!

I was planning on building my computer in late April, but now we have Ryzen 5 Specs, and i'm not sure if I should re-plan my build. If I did go for Ryzen, I would get the 1600x. I would want to keep my build relatively the same, because I have this whole Asus Aura sync thing going on. The Ryzen cpu would make me fork out an extra 80 dollars or so for a board with asus aura. Also, the NZXT Kraken x52 will require a bracket from NZXT, which may take a while to get to canada. Overall, it would make my build way more expensive. Here is my current build: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/rv3WwV

[alexcheetah]

I Say yay if it's anything like the Ryzen 7 there could be potential for a i7 like cpu for half the price.

[i_build_nanosuits]

i built a computer for a friend in the corsair 460X RGB case a couple weeks ago and it was a pain in the butt...also it's expensive...i would recommend you take a look at the Phanteks P400(s) tempered glass edition...i recently got one and re-built my PC in it and it's much better than the corsair case...and it's made in many colors so there is certainly one to match the aestetics you want.

[themctipers]

Strictly gaming, the 7600k would be faster by a few FPS

otherwise I would go for the 1600x because of the cores

[phongle123]

6 minutes ago, Jacob Canale said:

Hey Guys!

 

• 3.2GHz 1400 (four cores, eight threads, 3.4GHz boost) for $169
• 3.5GHz 1500x (four cores, eight threads, 3.7GHz boost) for $189
• 3.2GHz 1600 (six cores, 12 threads, 3.6GHz boost) for $219
• 3.6GHz 1600X (six cores, 12 threads, 4.0GHz boost) for $249

Those are some really good prices. 6 Cores will still have some benefits in DX11. I'd think the price is worth the wait. Seeing how Ryzen 7 fared against it's Intel pricing competitive counterpart doing $-to-$, Ryzen wins in performance.

[alexcheetah]

Just now, themctipers said:

Strictly gaming, the 7600k would be faster by a few FPS

otherwise I would go for the 1600x because of the cores

We don't even know what the performance of the 1600x is, only speculation.

[phongle123]

2 minutes ago, themctipers said:

Strictly gaming, the 7600k would be faster by a few FPS

otherwise I would go for the 1600x because of the cores

The performance advantage gained from higher core clock is literally 0-2 frames as seen from Linus' 1800x vs 7700k video with the 1080Ti. But then you'd also be in the territory of paying the Intel price over Ryzen ATM which doesn't look very good from a Price to Performance perspective.

[stconquest]

Why the slow RAM?

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/sHQRsY/gskill-tridentz-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-f4-3000c15d-16gtzr

[themctipers]

Just now, alexcheetah said:

We don't even know what the performance of the 1600x is, only speculation.

As far as I know the current RYZEN lineup would have the same IPC across the board. The same goes with Intel, a 7th gen i3 would perform the Same as a 7th gen i7 as long as it's the same cores, cache and threads. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

11 minutes ago, Jacob Canale said:

Hey Guys!

I was planning on building my computer in late April, but now we have Ryzen 5 Specs, and i'm not sure if I should re-plan my build. If I did go for Ryzen, I would get the 1600x. I would want to keep my build relatively the same, because I have this whole Asus Aura sync thing going on. The Ryzen cpu would make me fork out an extra 80 dollars or so for a board with asus aura. Also, the NZXT Kraken x52 will require a bracket from NZXT, which may take a while to get to canada. Overall, it would make my build way more expensive. Here is my current build: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/rv3WwV

looking at your part list...you are blowing way to much money on RAM...this SSD...and the motherboard man...and you skimp on CPU...i think it's not a good idea...you could get a lot more performance for less money.

[stconquest]

1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

looking at your part list...you are blowing way to much money on RAM...this SSD...and the motherboard man...and you skimp on CPU...i think it's not a good idea...you could get a lot more performance for less money.

Don't you stare at your tower most of the time?

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, stconquest said:

Don't you stare at your tower most of the time?

yes but you can get good looking parts that are not THAT expensive to the point where you can't have an i7 and a good SSD though...

 

[stconquest]

Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

yes but you can get good looking parts that are not THAT expensive to the point where you can't have an i7 and a good SSD though...

 

Well, $5 more gets him much faster RAM... with RGB.  He has not planned all that well.  Good thing he is posting here.

[alexcheetah]

16 minutes ago, themctipers said:

As far as I know the current RYZEN lineup would have the same IPC across the board. The same goes with Intel, a 7th gen i3 would perform the Same as a 7th gen i7 as long as it's the same cores, cache and threads. 

That's still nothing concrete, there's no point spending your hard earned cash on rumors and leaks. Even if the Ryzen 7 performs a certain way, we still do not know how the six and quad core variants will perform as they're a new architecture.  

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, stconquest said:

Well, $5 more gets him much faster RAM... with RGB.  He has not planned all that well.  Good thing he is posting here.

i wouldn't blow 280$ on that asus board and 205$ for the 250gb samsung SSD...

 

23 minutes ago, Jacob Canale said:

Hey Guys!

I was planning on building my computer in late April, but now we have Ryzen 5 Specs, and i'm not sure if I should re-plan my build. If I did go for Ryzen, I would get the 1600x. I would want to keep my build relatively the same, because I have this whole Asus Aura sync thing going on. The Ryzen cpu would make me fork out an extra 80 dollars or so for a board with asus aura. Also, the NZXT Kraken x52 will require a bracket from NZXT, which may take a while to get to canada. Overall, it would make my build way more expensive. Here is my current build: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/rv3WwV

check this out...you can have a core i7-7700K (beast CPU) with your same memory, this SSD is fast, i have one...it's plenty fast...i also have this cooler...it looks really nice and it has RGB lighting...very quiet...top notch quality...your RGB RAM...nice motherboard...etc...and...a GTX 1080...this case has including light strip RGB already with bottom lighting and stuff....all you need to complete the built is a single 120mm RGB fan for fancy exaust lighting...boom...this computer will look sick...it's 150$ cheaper, and you get the core i7 and a GTX 1080...this will DESTROY your other build:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($447.85 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($124.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: MSI Z270 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($175.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($179.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: ADATA Premier Pro SP920 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.49 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB STRIX Video Card  ($689.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.98 @ NCIX)
Case Fan: Thermaltake Riing 12 RGB 40.6 CFM  120mm Fan  ($30.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2026.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-15 23:22 EDT-0400

[stconquest]

Wow ^^^ very nice.

[Jacob Canale]

8 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

i wouldn't blow 280$ on that asus board and 205$ for the 250gb samsung SSD...

 

check this out...you can have a core i7-7700K (beast CPU) with your same memory, this SSD is fast, i have one...it's plenty fast...i also have this cooler...it looks really nice and it has RGB lighting...very quiet...top notch quality...your RGB RAM...nice motherboard...etc...and...a GTX 1080...this case has including light strip RGB already with bottom lighting and stuff....all you need to complete the built is a single 120mm RGB fan for fancy exaust lighting...boom...this computer will look sick...it's 150$ cheaper, and you get the core i7 and a GTX 1080...this will DESTROY your other build:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($447.85 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($124.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: MSI Z270 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($175.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($179.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: ADATA Premier Pro SP920 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.49 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB STRIX Video Card  ($689.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.98 @ NCIX)
Case Fan: Thermaltake Riing 12 RGB 40.6 CFM  120mm Fan  ($30.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2026.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-15 23:22 EDT-0400

You see, I'm really into aesthetics, and I've already bought half my parts. My system will work just fine. All I asked about was the CPU. Thanks though

[Jacob Canale]

20 minutes ago, stconquest said:

Well, $5 more gets him much faster RAM... with RGB.  He has not planned all that well.  Good thing he is posting here.

Didn't notice that xp I'll change that 

[Jacob Canale]

13 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

i wouldn't blow 280$ on that asus board and 205$ for the 250gb samsung SSD...

 

check this out...you can have a core i7-7700K (beast CPU) with your same memory, this SSD is fast, i have one...it's plenty fast...i also have this cooler...it looks really nice and it has RGB lighting...very quiet...top notch quality...your RGB RAM...nice motherboard...etc...and...a GTX 1080...this case has including light strip RGB already with bottom lighting and stuff....all you need to complete the built is a single 120mm RGB fan for fancy exaust lighting...boom...this computer will look sick...it's 150$ cheaper, and you get the core i7 and a GTX 1080...this will DESTROY your other build:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($447.85 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($124.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: MSI Z270 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($175.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($179.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: ADATA Premier Pro SP920 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.49 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB STRIX Video Card  ($689.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.98 @ NCIX)
Case Fan: Thermaltake Riing 12 RGB 40.6 CFM  120mm Fan  ($30.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2026.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-15 23:22 EDT-0400

Also, I'm buying my parts from ncix, Newegg, and direct canada

[stconquest]

18 minutes ago, Jacob Canale said:

Didn't notice that xp I'll change that 

Nanosuits has a 3200MHz kit for the same price... I missed it.

[Jacob Canale]

35 minutes ago, stconquest said:

Nanosuits has a 3200MHz kit for the same price... I missed it.

a 3200mhz kit of g.skill tridentz rgb?

[stconquest]

Just now, Jacob Canale said:

a 3200mhz kit of g.skill tridentz rgb?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/ybrcCJ/gskill-tridentz-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gtzr

[Jacob Canale]

1 minute ago, stconquest said:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/ybrcCJ/gskill-tridentz-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gtzr

o shoot

 

[Jacob Canale]

1 hour ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

i wouldn't blow 280$ on that asus board and 205$ for the 250gb samsung SSD...

 

check this out...you can have a core i7-7700K (beast CPU) with your same memory, this SSD is fast, i have one...it's plenty fast...i also have this cooler...it looks really nice and it has RGB lighting...very quiet...top notch quality...your RGB RAM...nice motherboard...etc...and...a GTX 1080...this case has including light strip RGB already with bottom lighting and stuff....all you need to complete the built is a single 120mm RGB fan for fancy exaust lighting...boom...this computer will look sick...it's 150$ cheaper, and you get the core i7 and a GTX 1080...this will DESTROY your other build:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($447.85 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($124.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: MSI Z270 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($175.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($179.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: ADATA Premier Pro SP920 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.49 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB STRIX Video Card  ($689.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.98 @ NCIX)
Case Fan: Thermaltake Riing 12 RGB 40.6 CFM  120mm Fan  ($30.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2026.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-15 23:22 EDT-0400

 

9 minutes ago, stconquest said:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/ybrcCJ/gskill-tridentz-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gtzr

I fixed my build! It has All the things I wanted, minus the ssd. I have one at home I guess I can use

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2Hby3F

You can edit it further if you would like, just keep the asus aura thing going.

[stconquest]

3 minutes ago, Jacob Canale said:

 

I fixed my build! It has All the things I wanted, minus the ssd. I have one at home I guess I can use

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2Hby3F

If you have a 1920x1080 monitor, you might want to drop back down to a GTX 1070 and grab a 2560x1440 IPS panel. 

 

If you wait for the 11th of April, you might be able to save some cash by getting a R5 1400.