Help with a new build

[DRHov3y]

Hey all,

 

So it has been a very long time since actually upgrading my computer (last time was when dual cores were just coming out). I don't game much on my computer that often as I have consoles for that, but there are some games that I wish to play but unfortunately do not have a computer good enough for it. Games wanting to play include: Cities Skyline, Civilization 6, Stardew Valley and the like. Not much into the FPS games just RTS or RPG games. I will probably only be gaming in 1080P as that is the current monitor that I have, but maybe down the road upgrade to 1440, I don't see going to 4k. I have been looking at some of the new developments (and there have been many) in the field and have put together a rough build as to what I think I am looking for. I have a budget of approx $1200 to $1500 Canadian (I live in Canada). Was looking for a second opinion (as to if this is overkill or not) and clarification on some questions.

 

Here is the Part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QWjcjc all to fit in this case: http://www.corsair.com/carbide-series-spec-alpha-mid-tower-gaming-case-white-red

 

Some of the questions:

1. Is the processor overkill? I don't need a unlocked one (as I don't overclock or know how to), but wondering if the 7500 would be better for some savings.
2. I like the idea of a water cooled CPU, but again not sure if it is really worth it or if I should stick with the stock cooler.
3. I currently have a SATA 3 SSD and 2TB HD in my PC. I was going to reuse these but wondering if the SSD should be upgraded as it is only 60GB and full already.
4. Is an M.2 drive worth it as a boot drive, or should I compile the SSD and M.2 and just get a bigger SSD?
5. The graphics card should be good enough for what I need it for and I don't see myself spending $500+ on a new one especially because I am getting a whole new rig.
6. The PSU, is this too much? Should I decrease it?

 

Thanks for helping me out!

[CatXice]

aio on non OC cpu?

why 2 ssd's

sfx psu's are really small 

everythin else is fine 

[stealth80]

Just now, CatXice said:

aio on non OC cpu?

read the whole post - OP has stated that as one of his/her questions

[CatXice]

1 minute ago, stealth80 said:

read the whole post - OP has stated that as one of his/her questions

a CM 212 evo woudl run it at 55-60c under load i have one on a 7600k on stock clocks at 60c under load y get a aio and run it at 30c theres no point

[DRHov3y]

2 minutes ago, CatXice said:

aio on non OC cpu?

why 2 ssd's

everythin else is fine 

Not sure what the first part is referring to.

 

I just put the parts in there for the SSD as I am unsure as to if getting an M.2 was worth it or if I should get a larger SATA SSD.

[CatXice]

Just now, DRHov3y said:

Not sure what the first part is referring to.

 

I just put the parts in there for the SSD as I am unsure as to if getting an M.2 was worth it or if I should get a larger SATA SSD.

m.2 is faster but in real terms u will see next to no difference and the green pcb will look ugly 

[CatXice]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gsf8Cy

i changed the psu to a atx 1 and then money u save is the difference of the 7600 to the 7600k in fact its cheaper win win

[stealth80]

1 minute ago, CatXice said:

m.2 is faster but in real terms u will see next to no difference and the green pcb will look ugly 

You can get covers (I agree theyre ugly as shit) I got one from some place in Portugal, you can see it in the top of this picture:

 

 

available here:

 

http://www.coldzero.eu/364-m2-covers

 

10 minutes ago, DRHov3y said:

Hey all,

 

Here is the Part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QWjcjc all to fit in this case: http://www.corsair.com/carbide-series-spec-alpha-mid-tower-gaming-case-white-red

 

Some of the questions:

1. Is the processor overkill? I don't need a unlocked one (as I don't overclock or know how to), but wondering if the 7500 would be better for some savings.
2. I like the idea of a water cooled CPU, but again not sure if it is really worth it or if I should stick with the stock cooler.
3. I currently have a SATA 3 SSD and 2TB HD in my PC. I was going to reuse these but wondering if the SSD should be upgraded as it is only 60GB and full already.
4. Is an M.2 drive worth it as a boot drive, or should I compile the SSD and M.2 and just get a bigger SSD?
5. The graphics card should be good enough for what I need it for and I don't see myself spending $500+ on a new one especially because I am getting a whole new rig.
6. The PSU, is this too much? Should I decrease it?

 

1) I'd go with an i7 7700 (non k) - You had a z series board with a non k CPU, basically not required

2) No need to water cool a non k CPU, a nice air cooler will keep temps and noise down for less money

3) Keep the 2TB drive, 60GB SSD not worth keeping

4) m.2 is nice, I barely notice the difference on mine - just get a bigger SSD

5) 1060 is pretty good, 480 is better and will get better with more driver updates

6) PSU was OK, I switched to EVGA for less $$$

 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($389.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H270M Performance Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($156.95 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Team Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($179.98 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Western Digital Black 5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 480 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($294.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: Corsair SPEC-ALPHA ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($108.98 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($115.76 @ Vuugo)
Total: $1366.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-12 16:17 EDT-0400

[CatXice]

the build i posted will be a lot better long term

[wagaloo123]

15 minutes ago, DRHov3y said:

Hey all,

 

So it has been a very long time since actually upgrading my computer (last time was when dual cores were just coming out). I don't game much on my computer that often as I have consoles for that, but there are some games that I wish to play but unfortunately do not have a computer good enough for it. Games wanting to play include: Cities Skyline, Civilization 6, Stardew Valley and the like. Not much into the FPS games just RTS or RPG games. I will probably only be gaming in 1080P as that is the current monitor that I have, but maybe down the road upgrade to 1440, I don't see going to 4k. I have been looking at some of the new developments (and there have been many) in the field and have put together a rough build as to what I think I am looking for. I have a budget of approx $1200 to $1500 Canadian (I live in Canada). Was looking for a second opinion (as to if this is overkill or not) and clarification on some questions.

 

Here is the Part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QWjcjc all to fit in this case: http://www.corsair.com/carbide-series-spec-alpha-mid-tower-gaming-case-white-red

 

Some of the questions:

1. Is the processor overkill? I don't need a unlocked one (as I don't overclock or know how to), but wondering if the 7500 would be better for some savings.
2. I like the idea of a water cooled CPU, but again not sure if it is really worth it or if I should stick with the stock cooler.
3. I currently have a SATA 3 SSD and 2TB HD in my PC. I was going to reuse these but wondering if the SSD should be upgraded as it is only 60GB and full already.
4. Is an M.2 drive worth it as a boot drive, or should I compile the SSD and M.2 and just get a bigger SSD?
5. The graphics card should be good enough for what I need it for and I don't see myself spending $500+ on a new one especially because I am getting a whole new rig.
6. The PSU, is this too much? Should I decrease it?

 

Thanks for helping me out!

Echoing most other people:

1. Get a 7600K, is definitely worth the $20 extra

2. As long as you don't try to run a crazy overclock and want to save a few bucks, a Cryorig H7 or Hyper 212 EVO are both cheap options

3/4. Just buy a larger SSD and drop the M.2

5. Get an RX 480, they run a little better and all signs point to them aging better than the 1060. Plus, you get an extra 2 GB of VRAM if you switch to 1440p some day

5. Wattage is fine, but get an EVGA non-SFX (cheaper and more reliable)

[stealth80]

3 minutes ago, CatXice said:

the build i posted will be a lot better long term

Why?

[CatXice]

Just now, stealth80 said:

Why?

cheaper and 7600k not a 7600

[stealth80]

1 minute ago, CatXice said:

cheaper and 7600k not a 7600

But I have listed 7700 not 7600 ... aka i7 not i5 also you're neglecting OP's requirements:

 

23 minutes ago, DRHov3y said:

 

1. Is the processor overkill? I don't need a unlocked one (as I don't overclock or know how to), but wondering if the 7500 would be better for some savings.

Doesn't know how/want to overclock

 

You also left the build wit h2x small in-needed SSD's go with 1 large or a large SSD + smaller m.2 boot drive - but budget doesn't allow the latter option

[CatXice]

Just now, stealth80 said:

But I have listed 7700 not 7600 ... aka i7 not i5 also you're neglecting OP's requirements:

 

Doesn't know how/want to overclock

can oc in future if wanted to and its cheaper then what he posted first calm down bro

[stealth80]

Just now, CatXice said:

can oc in future if wanted to and its cheaper then what he posted first calm down bro

I am calm lol, but I don't see how an i5 is better long term than i7

 

Its also more expensive than the OP's build

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gsf8Cy

 

My point is you just discounted my build and said "mines better long term" with zero reasons why - aka cause you can overclock or it has more hard drive space, can have crossfire etc etc

 

and I think you're wrong, the i7 would be better long term for someone unwilling to overclock

 

[CatXice]

Just now, stealth80 said:

I am calm lol, but I don't see how an i5 is better long term than i7

 

Its also more expensive than the OP's build

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gsf8Cy

 

My point is you just discounted my build and said "mines better long term" with zero reasons why - aka cause you can overclock or it has more hard drive space, can have crossfire etc etc

 

and I think you're wrong, the i7 would be better long term for someone unwilling to overclock

 

i didnt see yr build at all i was talkin about mine vs his and he didnt add his case which i did at £75 if u bothered checking

[stealth80]

1 minute ago, CatXice said:

i didnt see yr build at all i was talkin about mine vs his and he didnt add his case which i did at £75 if u bothered checking

ahhhh fairy snuff

[CatXice]

1 minute ago, stealth80 said:

ahhhh fairy snuff

dude u cant run a 7700 on a stock cooler it will boil under load i mean u can but it will not like it

[stealth80]

1 minute ago, CatXice said:

dude u cant run a 7700 on a stock cooler it will boil under load i mean u can but it will not like it

hmm hm, but it's also $130 under budget so OP can add air cooler or AIO - OP's choice

[CatXice]

3 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

hmm hm, but it's also $130 under budget so OP can add air cooler or AIO - OP's choice

u changed his gpu and ram the ram is questionable i mean i would never buy ram from a non mainstream company and changed the card to save £50 so u know and u cpu is boiling and i have heard bad things about as MB idk how true it is but u know

[stealth80]

1 minute ago, CatXice said:

u changed his gpu and ram the ram is questionable i mean i would never buy ram from a non mainstream company and changed the card to save £50 so u know and u cpu is boiling and i have heard bad things about as MB idk how true it is but u know

Hell ye I changed the GPU, 480 is a better card long term, we know that. 7700k gets hot when pushed to 5ghz, its a vanilla 7700 running 4ghz on 4 cores or 4.2 on 1, it won't suffer the same issues, but as you insist:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($389.98 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($63.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H270M Performance Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($156.95 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($179.98 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Western Digital Black 5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 480 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($294.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: Corsair SPEC-ALPHA ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($108.98 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($115.76 @ Vuugo)
Total: $1440.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-12 16:56 EDT-0400