Ryzen 1700(X) build

[Tarzan]

Hi guys,

 

I'm considering building a new rig in the following months with the Ryzen CPU as its core. I'd like a microATX build if possible (my actual Cooler Master StormTrooper is kinda big and empty inside).

I like the kind of case like the Lian-Li PC-Q19 but the review Linus gave wasn't great (here), so maybe other cases similar? Or I also like the Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 3.

I don't really now if the extra € are worth for the X variant of the 1700.

I don't play really high demanding games: RocketLeague, War Thunder, Cities:Skyline, Age of Empires II mainly.

I have a 1440p monitor (see signature) that I'll keep (plain awesome). 

 

What I consider now:

 

Mastercase Pro 3 - https://www.amazon.fr/Cooler-Master-MCY-C3P1-KWNN-Boîtier-M-ATX/dp/B01L76LBMG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489065952&sr=8-1&keywords=mastercase+pro+3
Zotac 1080 mini - https://www.amazon.de/ZOTAC-GeForce-1080-GDDR5X-Experience/dp/B01NCVICRY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489067447&sr=8-1&keywords=Zotac+1080+Mini
Ryzen 7 1700X (or 1700?) - https://www.amazon.fr/AMD-Ryzen-1700X-Processeur-Socket/dp/B06X3W9NGG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1489066083&sr=8-3&keywords=ryzen+7
AIO liquidcooler? CM or Corsair?

RAM? (Kingston preferably)

PSU? (only Seasonic, I'm a fan boy)

Motherboard? maybe with NVMe?

SSD? (NVMe?)

HDD - Already have

 

No LED or anything of that kind. I like something sober.

 

Budget: around 1400€.

 

Any advice will be welcome :). 

 

 

[BloodyWaters]

If you are looking for gaming performance get an i7-7700k. 

[DocSwag]

What country do you live in? And will you do anything other than gaming for this?

 

EDIT: NVM I see that you're in Belgium.

[Tarzan]

4 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

What country do you live in? And will you do anything other than gaming for this?

Belgium (Amazon FR or Amazon DE). And yes, sorry, I don't game that much, I really do all kind of things: streaming, editing videos, programming, watching videos, etc. Often at the same time. That's why I think the Ryzen is the nice choice...

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, Tarzan said:

Belgium. And yes, sorry, I don't game that much, I really do all kind of things: streaming, editing videos, programming, watching videos, etc. Often at the same time. That's why I think the Ryzen is the nice choice...

So also just making sure, but you like the slimmer cases, right?

[Tarzan]

I'd like yes, not full ATX cases anymore. Either a small "vertical" on my desk or one like the Mastercase Pro 3 (on the floor or on desk).

[DocSwag]

4 minutes ago, Tarzan said:

Belgium (Amazon FR or Amazon DE). And yes, sorry, I don't game that much, I really do all kind of things: streaming, editing videos, programming, watching videos, etc. Often at the same time. That's why I think the Ryzen is the nice choice...

I also forgot to ask, how do the fractal design define s, r5, and mini c look?

[Tarzan]

8 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

I also forgot to ask, how do the fractal design define s, r5, and mini c look?

I don't like the look of these cases. I know the Define S and R5 are the most popular out there but it's just not my kind, not at all...

[Serpius]

Here is my recommended computer build.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  (€439.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterAir Pro 4 66.7 CFM CPU Cooler  (€52.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€119.84 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (€119.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€88.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€50.60 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB NITRO+ OC Video Card  (€256.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€63.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: XFX XTR 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€99.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1290.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-09 19:08 CET+0100

[DocSwag]

5 hours ago, Tarzan said:

I don't like the look of these cases. I know the Define S and R5 are the most popular out there but it's just not my kind, not at all...

Here's what I came up with. It's in Germany and I'm not too sure about how that would work but it's only 1340 euros so...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (€359.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid Pro 280 64.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€102.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€98.68 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Kingston Savage 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (€113.48 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€77.49 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card  (€395.93 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€90.43 @ Mindfactory) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€102.94 @ Mindfactory) 
Total: €1340.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-09 20:51 CET+0100

[Tarzan]

@Buzzsaw and @DocSwag Thank you both for the part list. The one from DocSwag is more to my liking and requirements though. I'll still wait a bit for more Ryzen reviews of the 1700/1700X. Is the 1070 or the RX480 sufficient for 1440p? I currently have a 970 but I noticed a drawback when I switched from 1080 to 1440. I was hoping that the 1080 would be in sale considering the 1080Ti is coming.

 

[Serpius]

5 minutes ago, Tarzan said:

@Buzzsaw and @DocSwag Thank you both for the part list. The one from DocSwag is more to my liking and requirements though. I'll still wait a bit for more Ryzen reviews of the 1700/1700X. Is the 1070 or the RX480 sufficient for 1440p? I currently have a 970 but I noticed a drawback when I switched from 1080 to 1440. I was hoping that the 1080 would be in sale considering the 1080Ti is coming.

 

 

My computer build already has the Ryzen 1700x, which can be overclocked.

 

The Ryzen 1700 cannot be overclocked.

 

The AMD RX480 8 GB can easily handle 1440p. 

[DocSwag]

1 hour ago, Tarzan said:

@Buzzsaw and @DocSwag Thank you both for the part list. The one from DocSwag is more to my liking and requirements though. I'll still wait a bit for more Ryzen reviews of the 1700/1700X. Is the 1070 or the RX480 sufficient for 1440p? I currently have a 970 but I noticed a drawback when I switched from 1080 to 1440. I was hoping that the 1080 would be in sale considering the 1080Ti is coming.

 

They both can do 1440p, but rx 480 is more of a 1080p GPU. The 1070 can do 1440p 60fps at ultra in nearly every single game. rx 480 can do the same, but in 1080p instead.

59 minutes ago, Buzzsaw said:

My computer build already has the Ryzen 1700x, which can be overclocked.

 

The Ryzen 1700 cannot be overclocked.

 

The AMD RX480 8 GB can easily handle 1440p. 

That is completely untrue. The 1700 can also overclock. I think that it just doesn't support XFR or something.

 

And the rx 480 can handle 1440p, but not as well as the 1070. The 1070 can handle it at 60 fps ultra but for an rx 480 you'd need to turn down settings to high or medium to get 60 fps.

 

EDIT: And for video editing Nvidia is usually better due to CUDA.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, DocSwag said:

The 1700 can also overclock. I think that it just doesn't support XFR or something. 

Technically, the 1700 does support XFR, it just will only give a 50MHz additional boost. Gamers Nexus' 1700 review basically comes to the conclusion that a 1700, when overclocking, is just barely shy of the 1800x. HOWEVER, as they point out, this was an early sample and we don't know how the 1700 you'll find in store might differ in terms of binning as time goes on (they may be putting out what would normally be 1800Xs for now to fulfill current demand). Just food for thought.

[DocSwag]

3 hours ago, FibonacciOne1235 said:

Technically, the 1700 does support XFR, it just will only give a 50MHz additional boost. Gamers Nexus' 1700 review basically comes to the conclusion that a 1700, when overclock in, is just barely shy of the 1800x. HOWEVER, as they point out, this was an early sample and we don't know how the 1700 you'll find I store might differ in terms of binning as time goes on (they may be putting out what would normally be 1800Xs for now to fulfill current demand). Just food for thought.

Yeah, I'm still a bit unsure about what the "x" is supposed to mean  

[Guest]

48 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Yeah, I'm still a bit unsure about what the "x" is supposed to mean  

I think that the X SKUs all have a 95W TDP and 100MHz of max XFR boost as opposed to 65 W TDP and 50MHz for XFR. But even then, it's just a guess.

 

EDIT: Found a source for the XFR

https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/PSA-AMD-XFR-Enabled-All-Ryzen-CPUs-X-SKUs-Have-Wider-Range

[Guest]

15 hours ago, Buzzsaw said:

My computer build already has the Ryzen 1700x, which can be overclocked.

 

The Ryzen 1700 cannot be overclocked.

 

The AMD RX480 8 GB can easily handle 1440p. 

What ? The R7 1700 is unlocked for overclocking.

 

GTX 1070 > RX 480 for 1440p gaming. The RX 480 will struggle to give 60fps in some games at that res on ultra.