Fresh Windows 10 install optimization

[HadesLV]

Recently I built my very first rig from scratch, all new parts other than my old HDD from my previous PC which also had the windows install that I am currently still using. At the end of the week however I am getting a new 850 EVO 500gb and along with it I intend to do a completely fresh install of windows 10. All the dozens of previous times I've done fresh installs of windows, I've never really bothered to do much optimization, however now having my own hand built rig I feel the need to do everything perfectly so I want to do the same with windows.

 

My essential question is, can someone point me to a good, recent Windows 10 optimization guide and/or tool. Like what useless services to disable, what bloatware to get rid of, what settings to change for the purpose of getting rid of anything that slows down your hardware for no reason. My main use for the PC is just triple A title gaming, however I do a bit of amateur video/photo editing and what not at times as well. My PC specs are in the description if that is for some reason important to this question.

 

Thank you in advance for any answers!

[SorcierX]

#1.

[HadesLV]

5 minutes ago, SorcierX said:

#1.

Heh, I actually was already aware of this one and it's definitely something I will be doing, however I meant more things that affect your PC performance, rather than privacy settings. Still, thank you for responding! EDIT: Not to say that those settings don't also affect performance.

[GoodBytes]

They are no optimizations to do. Windows 10 adapt to your hardware specs.

I, and others have done tests, there is marginally no performance difference disabling everything (not to mention compromising the experience), and having everything enabled, because most things don't actually run on the background.

 

13 minutes ago, SorcierX said:

#1.

Except it is filled with false information already discussed here, from a hypocrite person who is bitter from loosing his position at Microsoft, due to the restructure of the company, despite being offered a better position within the company (Passing from a Software developer tester... to an actual Software Developer). He decided to do YouTube... and pushes click bait content over all to get views to try and put food on the table. Desperate and sad.

 

[HadesLV]

1 minute ago, GoodBytes said:

They are no optimizations to do. Windows 10 adapt to your hardware specs.

 

 

Except it is filled with false information already discussed here, from a hypocrite person who is bitter from loosing his position at Microsoft, due to the restructure of the company, despite being offered a better position within the company (Passing from a Software developer tester... to an actual Software Developer). He decided to do YouTube... and pushes click bait content over all to get views to try and put food on the table. Desperate and sad.

 

I mean, I haven't seen a single Windows yet that had nothing to optimize at all. I have googled optimization guides myself and there are plenty of examples, the only reason I came to ask here is because I figure maybe someone can point me to the most reliable guide. One I found myself was https://tweakhound.com/2015/12/09/tweaking-windows-10/ which seems to be quite a good guide, but again I was coming here for advice because I have had a lot of good experiences with asking advice here on linustechtips(saved me from a couple of headaches that I could have had with my hardware, in fact).

 

Also, I do notice Barnacules is quite biased in the way he talks in the video, but most of the security advice he gives seems reasonable, even if it is coming from a biased standpoint. Personally I am not that deeply disturbed by the privacy stuff, so I do intend to only use the surface settings that Microsoft itself provides, but I can see why other people might find his guide useful.

 

Just to say, I am not trying to take any side in any argument here, I don't know much about this to be honest.

[Mira Yurizaki]

I've dabbled with this idea with a fresh install of Windows ran a few benchmarks, then stripped as much as I could from it and re-ran the benchmarks. The conclusion I've found is the average performance difference is basically within a margin of error, but there are some instances were up to 5% improvements were gained.

 

However I would recommend against trying to "optimize" Windows. For one, the experiment I did is more or less proof that the default configuration of Windows doesn't really affect the performance of applications. At least, if you don't have other apps that demand the services of Windows all the time. The second is most application developers assume everyone runs on the default configuration. I don't believe adding to your default configuration is harmful in regards to compatibility, but removing features and such is, because if that one application you use expects the feature and it's not there, it's going to break.

 

So unless you're running on destitute hardware, you don't need to "optimize" anything.

[SorcierX]

LOL ..... holy tilt .... 

[HadesLV]

2 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

I've dabbled with this idea with a fresh install of Windows ran a few benchmarks, then stripped as much as I could from it and re-ran the benchmarks. The conclusion I've found is the average performance difference is basically within a margin of error, but there are some instances were up to 5% improvements were gained.

 

However I would recommend against trying to "optimize" Windows. For one, the experiment I did is more or less proof that the default configuration of Windows doesn't really affect the performance of applications. At least, if you don't have other apps that demand the services of Windows all the time. The second is most application developers assume everyone runs on the default configuration. I don't believe adding to your default configuration is harmful in regards to compatibility, but removing features and such is, because if that one application you use expects the feature and it's not there, it's going to break.

 

So unless you're running on destitute hardware, you don't need to "optimize" anything.

Fair enough, so the tweak guide I posted would have marginal to no benefit to performance, then?

[Sack]

8 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

They are no optimizations to do. Windows 10 adapt to your hardware specs.

I, and others have done tests, there is marginally no performance difference disabling everything (not to mention compromising the experience), and having everything enabled, because most things don't actually run on the background.

 

Except it is filled with false information already discussed here, from a hypocrite person who is bitter from loosing his position at Microsoft, due to the restructure of the company, despite being offered a better position within the company (Passing from a Software developer tester... to an actual Software Developer). He decided to do YouTube... and pushes click bait content over all to get views to try and put food on the table. Desperate and sad.

 

Not trying to start a fight or anything, but is there somewhere we can actually find this info that you kind of just throw out here? The guy has been a guest on WAN show although it has been some years and it was also before he lost his job at MS, Linus seems to be a good judge of character going by the people he employs. Nothing that appeared in the video seems to be a problem to me, although we all have different opinions on how our privacy should be treated, I don't think this is biased info.

 

Luke admitted that he had to swap back to win7 or 8.1 (can't remember which one right now) in a WAN video because win10 is running all kinds of weird stuff in the background, so I wouldn't say that there are no optimisations to be done. I also strongly dislike the "snooping" stuff MS employs in win10 so I use spybot's little app to block off some of the stuff, although there are probably something else hidden away somewhere.

 

In the end when I watched that video back when I upgraded, and today, I'd say he's only handing out advice for people like myself and possibly more "hardcore" people, and by that I'm refering to deleting the services.

[Mira Yurizaki]

Just now, HadesLV said:

Fair enough, so the tweak guide I posted would have marginal to no benefit to performance, then?

A lot of what that article has is more of a general tweak guide than one for performance. I used http://www.askvg.com/master-tutorial-to-make-windows-10-super-fast/ in my blog but in reality, most of those tweaks to make things "super fast" is disabling animations and reducing wait times (like when you click on a menu button to when the menu shows). They don't actually make your computer perform faster. Some things may involve some extra processing, but really, if your computer is so slow that "Show Compressed Files" in File Explorer actually has a performance impact, I don't think your computer should be running anything other than Windows 98 or prior.

 

The other thing about apps is if they're not being used, all they're doing is taking up space on your storage drive. And for some of the UWAs, they're just sitting there until something happens.

[HadesLV]

Just now, M.Yurizaki said:

A lot of what that article has is more of a general tweak guide than one for performance. I used http://www.askvg.com/master-tutorial-to-make-windows-10-super-fast/ in my blog but in reality, most of those tweaks to make things "super fast" is disabling animations and reducing wait times (like when you click on a menu button to when the menu shows). They don't actually make your computer perform faster. Some things may involve some extra processing, but really, if your computer is so slow that "Show Compressed Files" in File Explorer actually has a performance impact, I don't think your computer should be running anything other than Windows 98 or prior.

 

The other thing about apps is if they're not being used, all they're doing is taking up space on your storage drive. And for some of the UWAs, they're just sitting there until something happens.

Fair enough, so there is nothing substantial to be gained in the performance department. But I'll probably still will go through the tweaks to see if I can just improve the general experience, even if it does not increase performance per say. Thank you for your answers!

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 minute ago, HadesLV said:

Fair enough, so there is nothing substantial to be gained in the performance department. But I'll probably still will go through the tweaks to see if I can just improve the general experience, even if it does not increase performance per say. Thank you for your answers!

Yeah, it wouldn't hurt to go through them because some of those settings can tailor the UX to your tastes or reduce attack surfaces as far as security is concerned. However, don't expect something like an appreciable FPS boost in games or shaving off minutes in video rendering times.

[GoodBytes]

45 minutes ago, HadesLV said:

I mean, I haven't seen a single Windows yet that had nothing to optimize at all. I have googled optimization guides myself and there are plenty of examples, the only reason I came to ask here is because I figure maybe someone can point me to the most reliable guide. One I found myself was https://tweakhound.com/2015/12/09/tweaking-windows-10/ which seems to be quite a good guide, but again I was coming here for advice because I have had a lot of good experiences with asking advice here on linustechtips(saved me from a couple of headaches that I could have had with my hardware, in fact).

They are all myths. (Beside defrag your HDD, startups, and stuff).

I am looking at the link you posted I see a document to do stuff in Windows, or get a bit easier access to somethings. But  I don't really see system tweaks. If there is something specific, I can talk about it onto why it is a myth that it provides something sub.

 

Actually, there is 1 thing you can do to boost your startup of program when you login, but only do this if you have a fast SSD and limited startup programs, but more than 1 or 2 that small, and you need to have access as soon as possible. Since Windows 8, Windows adds a delay before starting your startup programs. This is to allow Windows to fully load, allows you to have a system that is responding right away, while startup programs loads on the back. This is so that you don't need to wait an undetermined amount of time at each startup before you can use the system.

 

Go to:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Serial

(Serial key (folder) needs to be created).

And create a DWORD called StartupDelayInMSec, and set the value to 0.

 

So, it is a limited market where his tweak is interesting/useful.

But it is true, that it does have an impact.

 

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Also, I do notice Barnacules is quite biased in the way he talks in the video, but most of the security advice he gives seems reasonable, even if it is coming from a biased standpoint. Personally I am not that deeply disturbed by the privacy stuff, so I do intend to only use the surface settings that Microsoft itself provides, but I can see why other people might find his guide useful.

Seems? Recommends Edge/Bing that tracks you (like Google and Chrome), but standard telemetry data (no tracking) is not ok?

Says to setup HOST file to block "spying" stuff, even though Windows security, telemetry, related tasks by-passes these thing (so you block nothing) , else it would be too easy for a malware, where they can edit the HOST file, and redirect traffic to its server and try and find some valuable data that might have leaked through telemetry data. Giving you the illusion of protection. And the software he suggest does the same. Cannot differentiate spying and telemetry data (or choose not to for scare tactics for views)... and more.. it isn't 1 error... we all do mistakes, but not only there is no correction, he has many, miss informing people on a critical subject. That is like those bracelets that claims that if you wear it, it will cure you cancer.. but doctors don't want to you know.... because after doing more than 9 years of intense education isn't for a goal to help people and save lives, but rather making money, even though in most countries doctors aren't very well paid as the media portray them, and that you can more money in the same time frame, and much easier ways.