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So the first day that the R7 series came out I saw several reviews that showed them getting their asses handed to them in gaming by I7s, now I'm seeing reviews coming out showing them keeping up or surpassing I7s. Anyone know which are right, or the bias that one (or both.. like game selection) are using to make one look better than the other?

 

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6 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

 

Alright so the initial, I7 > R7 for gaming still stands. Just wanted to clear things up before I keep telling people to avoid them for pure gaming rigs.

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4 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

 

haha yeah joker ran the benchmarks at 720p and Bryan did the same testing and told us that Joker intel rig was running poorly and that he think joker was running 4.0ghz and not 5.0ghz like he claim and that only the ryzen was overclocked in his testing...and in the joker video (i can link if you want) the 7700K was destroying the Ryzen chip in every games by at least 25% pretty much consistently now imagine how bad it would be a ''real'' 5.0ghz 7700K like the scores Bryan is showing...Ryzen still gets his ass kicked in games...by A LOT.

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Just now, Moress said:

Alright so the initial, I7 > R7 for gaming still stands. Just wanted to clear things up before I keep telling people to avoid them for pure gaming rigs.

 

yup a 1700 destroyed a i7 in productivity while a i7 destroys it in gaming. 

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1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

yup a 1700 destroyed a i7 in productivity while a i7 destroys it in gaming. 

See but people are spreading this thing around a lot. Which is why I asked

http://www.toptengamer.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-vs-intel-i7-7700k-1800x/

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1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

haha yeah joker ran the benchmarks at 720p and Bryan did the same testing and told us that Joker intel rig was running poorly and that he think joker was running 4.0ghz and not 5.0ghz like he claim and that only the ryzen was overclocked in his testing...and in the joker video (i can link if you want) the 7700K was destroying the Ryzen chip in every games by at least 25% pretty much consistently now imagine how bad it would be a ''real'' 5.0ghz 7700K like the scores Bryan is showing...Ryzen still gets his ass kicked in games...by A LOT.

 

that's the point, a 6900k or a 6800k is not a good gaming system they usually for productivity also ryzen has problems that needs to be worked out, give it 6 months then run tests again. 

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7 hours ago, nerdslayer1 said:

that's the point, a 6900k or a 6800k is not a good gaming system they usually for productivity also ryzen has problems that needs to be worked out, give it 6 months then run tests again. 

AMD ''fine wine'' i guess...now they do it with CPU's too...interesting o.O

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21 minutes ago, Moress said:

So the first day that the R7 series came out I saw several reviews that showed them getting their asses handed to them in gaming by I7s, now I'm seeing reviews coming out showing them keeping up or surpassing I7s. Anyone know which are right, or the bias that one (or both.. like game selection) are using to make one look better than the other?

 

Do not expect R7 to beat an i7 7700k in gaming. Yes, I understand that the results right now are a bit screwed up due to bad optimization for SMT, poor BIOSes not allowing the motherboards to use high frequency RAM and some other issues which are just plaguing the launch.

 

In the end, I expect R7 CPUs to perform about the same as an i7 6900k in gaming when everything is optimized. Because that's how it should be. Kaby lake and skylake have a 6-7% IPC advantage over Broadwell-E and RyZen. On top of that, they have an insane clock speed advantage. That isn't going away.

 

For games like battlefield 1 and the new games that will come out later this year or after that, the R7 will most likely beat the quad core i7s, but don't expect a switch to be flipped and expect RyZen to suddenly start beating 7700k in games that only use 4 cores or less and love clock speed.

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