New Build Won't Boot

[SpiderSilk]

So yesterday I finally assembled my new computer, and when I turn it on, all fans and LEDs turn on for all components and no quick-debug leds turn on, but there is no display output and no power from the USBs. Half of the components in the computer are recycled from my last computer including drives, PSU, monitor and peripherals, graphics card and case, and everything worked fine. I only switched in a new motherboard, CPU and cooler, and ram.

 

Specs:

CPU: i5 7600k

GPU: MSI GTX 970 Gaming

MBD: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon

Drives: Samsung 850 Evo and seagate barracuda 7200.12

PSU: Thermaltake TR2-600W

Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

RAM: Corsair Vengence 3000MHz 2x8

 

What I've Tried:

-Trying all different video outputs with different cables

-Taking out graphics card and running on onboard graphics

-Taking out RAM, GPU, and power connectors and putting them back in

-Taking out the whole motherboard, checking for loose screws and bent pins, and putting it back together

-swapping the RAM around (this just caused the RAM led to light up as a debug issue)

-Removing the CPU power to test the LED (The quick-debug LED seems to be working fine.)

-Testing the USB output with my phone charger and nothing happened

 

 

PS: This is my first build that I've done by myself so don't be afraid to suggest rookie mistakes

 

Thanks

[Droidbot]

Seems like either:

- CPU (rare af, but it happens)

- Mobo (common)

or RAM (kinda common) are at fault here. 

 

Contact MSI, since it seems like the board, maybe? Just a hunch. 

[PCMasterDebater]

You paired a 7400 CPU that requires the second gen lga 1151 mobo. Meaning, you need a z270 mobo.

 

Or your z170 mobo needs a bio's flash to make the CPU be recognized by it.

https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/Z170A-GAMING-PRO-CARBON.html#hero-overview

However, according to this, that mobo doesn't currently have a bios flash available to make the 7600k work

 

[Droidbot]

1 minute ago, PCMasterDebater said:

You paired a 7400 CPU that requires the second gen lga 1151 mobo. Meaning, you need a z270 mobo. Or

your z170 mobo needs a bio's flash to make the CPU be recognized by it.

There's a Z170 and Z270 version of the board, so it could be either. 

[PCMasterDebater]

1 minute ago, Droidbot said:

There's a Z170 and Z270 version of the board, so it could be either. 

I believe the second version is a x99 for 2011 CPU

https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/X99A-GAMING-PRO-CARBON.html#hero-overview

[DnFx91]

10 minutes ago, SpiderSilk said:

So yesterday I finally assembled my new computer, and when I turn it on, all fans and LEDs turn on for all components and no quick-debug leds turn on, but there is no display output and no power from the USBs. Half of the components in the computer are recycled from my last computer including drives, PSU, monitor and peripherals, graphics card and case, and everything worked fine. I only switched in a new motherboard, CPU and cooler, and ram.

 

Specs:

CPU: i5 7600k

GPU: MSI GTX 970 Gaming

MBD: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon

Drives: Samsung 850 Evo and seagate barracuda 7200.12

PSU: Thermaltake TR2-600W

Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

RAM: Corsair Vengence 3000MHz 2x8

 

What I've Tried:

-Trying all different video outputs with different cables

-Taking out graphics card and running on onboard graphics

-Taking out RAM, GPU, and power connectors and putting them back in

-Taking out the whole motherboard, checking for loose screws and bent pins, and putting it back together

-swapping the RAM around (this just caused the RAM led to light up as a debug issue)

-Removing the CPU power to test the LED (The quick-debug LED seems to be working fine.)

-Testing the USB output with my phone charger and nothing happened

 

 

PS: This is my first build that I've done by myself so don't be afraid to suggest rookie mistakes

 

Thanks

to be honest it sounds like you did everything right, and your debugging process is very logical. does the USB get a burst of power when you turn the system on ? i've noticed with some boards that the optical mouse will flash and stay lit for a second or 2 at powerup, but then turn off, only to turn back on after a full POST. but your POST LED's are fine so that seems unlikely. 

[SpiderSilk]

1 minute ago, Droidbot said:

There's a Z170 and Z270 version of the board, so it could be either. 

I have the Z170 motherboard, but that's because I bought it before Kaby Lake came out and I heard it still works with the new chips, you just don't get all of the new features.

[SpiderSilk]

1 minute ago, DnFx91 said:

to be honest it sounds like you did everything right, and your debugging process is very logical. does the USB get a burst of power when you turn the system on ? i've noticed with some boards that the optical mouse will flash and stay lit for a second or 2 at powerup, but then turn off, only to turn back on after a full POST. but your POST LED's are fine so that seems unlikely. 

No, there is no power from USB's at any point. There is however a POST LED flash when I first turn it on.

[PCMasterDebater]

6 minutes ago, SpiderSilk said:

I have the Z170 motherboard, but that's because I bought it before Kaby Lake came out and I heard it still works with the new chips, you just don't get all of the new features.

You heard correct, but you forgot to verify if this particular motherboard has an available bios flash.

 

#Rookie mistakes ftl

 

Return the motherboard and order a z270

or

update the bios

[Droidbot]

2 minutes ago, SpiderSilk said:

I have the Z170 motherboard, but that's because I bought it before Kaby Lake came out and I heard it still works with the new chips, you just don't get all of the new features.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/Z170A-GAMING-PRO-CARBON.html#support-cpu

 

V16 supports the new CPUs, V10 BIOS does not. 

[PCMasterDebater]

2 minutes ago, DnFx91 said:

to be honest it sounds like you did everything right, and your debugging process is very logical. does the USB get a burst of power when you turn the system on ? i've noticed with some boards that the optical mouse will flash and stay lit for a second or 2 at powerup, but then turn off, only to turn back on after a full POST. but your POST LED's are fine so that seems unlikely. 

wrong

[DnFx91]

2 minutes ago, SpiderSilk said:

I have the Z170 motherboard, but that's because I bought it before Kaby Lake came out and I heard it still works with the new chips, you just don't get all of the new features.

yeah dude i've never heard of an LGA CPU not working in an LGA socket with the corresponding number of pins, regardless of chipset it should work

[DnFx91]

2 minutes ago, SpiderSilk said:

No, there is no power from USB's at any point. There is however a POST LED flash when I first turn it on.

that's worrying, USB power should come from the 24-Pin ATX connector ultimately right ? is your PSU or it's cables flaky ?

[SpiderSilk]

2 minutes ago, PCMasterDebater said:

You heard correct, but you forgot to verify if this particular motherboard has an available bios flash.

 

#Rookie mistakes ftl

 

Return the motherboard and order a z270

Ok, thank you for the help.

[DnFx91]

2 minutes ago, PCMasterDebater said:

wrong

care to elaborate ?

[SpiderSilk]

1 minute ago, DnFx91 said:

that's worrying, USB power should come from the 24-Pin ATX connector ultimately right ? is your PSU or it's cables flaky ?

I've used this PSU for 2 years with no problems so I doubt it.

[PCMasterDebater]

3 minutes ago, PCMasterDebater said:

You heard correct, but you forgot to verify if this particular motherboard has an available bios flash.

 

#Rookie mistakes ftl

 

Return the motherboard and order a z270

or

update the bios

 

3 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/Z170A-GAMING-PRO-CARBON.html#support-cpu

 

V16 supports the new CPUs, V10 BIOS does not. 

 

droid found it for you  

[NTDaws]

24 minutes ago, DnFx91 said:

care to elaborate ?

Without the BIOS update installed for Kaby Lake Support on a Z170 board, the PC will not boot. Either one, have a shop update the bios to the latest. Or two, you can upgrade to a Z270 board. Get your facts right please.

[DnFx91]

4 minutes ago, Dawson Wehage said:

Without the BIOS update installed for Kaby Lake Support on a Z170 board, the PC will not boot. Either one, have a shop update the bios to the latest. Or two, you can upgrade to a Z270 board. Get your facts right please.

isn't that why we are here ? to get our facts right.....