pc Help build a PC for $350 or less

[pogchamptime]

2 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Pentium G4560

Basically a slightly lower clocked i3 for cheap

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zpBdgL

 

So this is a good build? What would I get graphics wise on games like Overwatch?

[RadiatingLight]

9 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

 

Too expensive

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($64.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($50.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($31.90 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 460 2GB Red Dragon Video Card  ($93.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($31.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $345.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-07 21:08 EST-0500

 

 

I would recommend a RX470 for 125USD instead. it's a bit more money, but it's a LOT more performance.

[Aereldor]

13 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 845 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($67.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi A70U3P Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($41.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill NS Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($31.90 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 2GB ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($104.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($31.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $348.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-07 21:05 EST-0500

I'm disappointed in you, comrade. You can get a much faster CPU and a decent motherboard that supports Intel's latest chips, rather than an antique with no upgrade path.

 

People need to stop recommending Athlon x4 chips. Also, you used up both RAM slots on the motherboard, and the motherboard doesn't exactly have glowing reviews.

Start recommending this combo instead. It's on par with a Core i3 6100, and that motherboard's BIOS can be flashed without installing a CPU. I believe all ASUS boards can do that.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($64.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: *Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($50.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *Seagate Barracuda 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($24.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: *PowerColor Radeon RX 460 2GB Red Dragon Video Card  ($93.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: *Xion XON-350_BK ATX Mid Tower Case  ($28.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($33.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $344.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-07 21:16 EST-0500

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

I'm disappointed in you, comrade. You can get a much faster CPU and a decent motherboard that supports Intel's latest chips, rather than an antique with no upgrade path.

 

People need to stop recommending Athlon x4 chips. Also, you used up both RAM slots on the motherboard, and the motherboard doesn't exactly have glowing reviews.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($64.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: *Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($50.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *Seagate Barracuda 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($24.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: *PowerColor Radeon RX 460 2GB Red Dragon Video Card  ($93.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: *Xion XON-350_BK ATX Mid Tower Case  ($28.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($33.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $344.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-07 21:16 EST-0500

I edited my build and added a G4560 later down.  

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Terneus said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zpBdgL

 

So this is a good build? What would I get graphics wise on games like Overwatch?

Swap out to a G4560 instead of a G4500. 

[Aereldor]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

I edited my build and added a G4560 later down.  

Great! Also, recommend ASUS H110 boards. You can update the BIOS on them without having a CPU installed, so no trouble with Kabylake support.

[pogchamptime]

2 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

I edited my build and added a G4560 later down.  

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zpBdgL

 

So is your build better than this one?

[Guest]

Just now, Terneus said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zpBdgL

 

So is your build better than this one?

Yes my build and @Aereldor's build should be all considered

[Aereldor]

4 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

I would recommend a RX470 for 125USD instead. it's a bit more money, but it's a LOT more performance.

Where is this magically cheap 470? Also, it'll need a better power supply. We're looking at maybe $70 or $80 more, since the cheapest 470 on the block is $165 and a reliable power supply to support it will be at least $15 more than the 300w SeaSonic.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=376&sort=a8&page=1

[pogchamptime]

2 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Yes my build and @Aereldor's build should be all considered

Thank you very much!!!

[NTDaws]

Hows this

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vDJHr7
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vDJHr7/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($64.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($50.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($24.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 460 4GB NITRO Video Card  ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($31.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $355.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-07 21:31 EST-0500

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Dawson Wehage said:

Hows this

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vDJHr7
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vDJHr7/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($64.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($50.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($24.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 460 4GB NITRO Video Card  ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($31.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $355.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-07 21:31 EST-0500

1 additional PCI-Express 6-pin power connector is needed.

[NTDaws]

4 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

1 additional PCI-Express 6-pin power connector is needed.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YXYzWX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YXYzWX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($64.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($50.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($24.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 460 4GB NITRO Video Card  ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Logisys 575W ATX Power Supply  ($27.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $351.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-07 21:36 EST-0500

[Guest]

Just now, Dawson Wehage said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YXYzWX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YXYzWX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($64.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($50.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($24.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 460 4GB NITRO Video Card  ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Logisys 575W ATX Power Supply  ($27.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $351.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-07 21:36 EST-0500

How 's that fire bomb doing for you?

[NTDaws]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

How 's that fire bomb doing for you?

pree good, thx.

[79wjd]

33 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Great! Also, recommend ASUS H110 boards. You can update the BIOS on them without having a CPU installed, so no trouble with Kabylake support.

I thought USB Bios Flashback was only on their mid/higher end boards?

[Aereldor]

28 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

I thought USB Bios Flashback was only on their mid/higher end boards?

All of them support EZFlash (3 is the current iteration). 

[79wjd]

6 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

All of them support EZFlash (3 is the current iteration). 

I'm pretty sure EZ Flash requires a CPU and is just an easy way to update the bios while USB BIOS flashback allows you to update the bios without a CPU. 

[Aereldor]

40 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

I'm pretty sure EZ Flash requires a CPU and is just an easy way to update the bios while USB BIOS flashback allows you to update the bios without a CPU. 

Will it work with an unsupported CPU installed?

 

I mean, owners of the Maximus VI Formula motherboard are able to update the BIOS without a CPU installed, using the board's EZFlash 2 technology.

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?48521-Updating-Maximus-VI-Formula-BIOS-without-CPU

 

Is there a separate technology altogether that enable the BIOS to be updated without a CPU or with an unsupported one?

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Will it work with an unsupported CPU installed?

 

I mean, owners of the Maximus VI Formula motherboard are able to update the BIOS without a CPU installed, using the board's EZFlash 2 technology.

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?48521-Updating-Maximus-VI-Formula-BIOS-without-CPU

 

Is there a separate technology altogether that enable the BIOS to be updated without a CPU or with an unsupported one?

Even in that thread there is no definitive answer (there are people saying that it does and does not work). But if you look into any Asus board, you'll see that it specifically mentions that you can update without a CPU under the USB UEFI BIOS Flashback, but it doesn't say that with EZ Flash. As far as I can tell, EZ Flash is just a useful tool to update the bios from within the bios with a few simple clicks whereas USB BIOS Flashback allows you to do it without a CPU. 

[Aereldor]

@deXxterlab97- that one line was so earth-shattering that you got best answer.

[runningpayne]

So same build with the G4560, what would you all suggest for a motherboard that has overclocking capabilities? You know for future upgradability. Kind of thinking something with 4 slots for ram too, again for maximum upgradability.

[79wjd]

12 hours ago, runningpayne said:

So same build with the G4560, what would you all suggest for a motherboard that has overclocking capabilities? You know for future upgradability. Kind of thinking something with 4 slots for ram too, again for maximum upgradability.

You should make your own thread rather than jumping on a pre-existing one. 

 

@Aereldor I contacted Asus support for some clarification, and EZ Flash is just a convenient utility, but it does require you to get into the BIOS (and thus requires a compatible CPU). USB UEFI Bios Flashback is what allows you to update the bios without a CPU -- and that's only on mid/high end boards. 

[pogchamptime]

15 hours ago, deXxterlab97 said:

1 additional PCI-Express 6-pin power connector is needed.

I feel like I would rather have a NVIDIA card.

[Guest]

32 minutes ago, Terneus said:

I feel like I would rather have a NVIDIA card.

Then you better save up