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[Omie]

Build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZCTqPs

 

I'm looking for a CPU cooler that will allow me to reach at least 4.5GHz on my i7 6700k at relatively cool and stable temps. Don't mind spending a little extra. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Zyndo]

1. Corsair 450D should be a good fit for that.

 

2. H5 Ultimate from Cryorig. should be about 15-20 bucks more (be sure to double check RAM clearance as I think the ultimate overhangs some RAM slots, whereas the H7 does not). the H7 should be able to reach 4.5GHz though but that may depend on your luck with the silicon lottery. There would be plenty of good coolers in the 50 dollar area though.

 

EDIT: Here is a link to the H5 Ultimate since it wasn't visiable on pcpartpicker for some reason: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF30R0134&cm_re=H5_Ultimate-_-13C-000U-00006-_-Product

 

Its also worth noting it WILL overhang your first RAM slot, but will leave slots 2-4 unhindered. it also has clearance for RAM up to 35mm tall in the first RAM slot, so getting some low profile memory may be the way to go if you're feeling paranoid about it (although the fan is adjustable, so it shouldn't be a big deal)

[Thinkfreely]

10 minutes ago, Omie said:

Build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hYyLFd

 

1. I'm looking for a different case that has some ground clearance, DVD drive slots, good cable management/airflow, and preferably a window. Don't mind spending an extra $20-30 for better quality, etc.

 

2. I'm also looking for a cooler that will allow me to reach 4.5GHz on my i7 6700k at relatively cool and stable temps. Don't mind spending a little extra here either. 

 

So overall, I need to swap out the case and CPU cooler to fit my needs as described above. 

 

 

 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VkyZ9W

 

This would be fine. I had a H100 V2 on my overclocked I7 4.6ghz Skylake and swapped to single fan DeepCool Cpu cooler, and ironically I am getting better cooling with the single fan and radiator set up.

[Omie]

21 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

1. Corsair 450D should be a good fit for that.

 

2. H5 Ultimate from Cryorig. should be about 15-20 bucks more (be sure to double check RAM clearance as I think the ultimate overhangs some RAM slots, whereas the H7 does not). the H7 should be able to reach 4.5GHz though but that may depend on your luck with the silicon lottery. There would be plenty of good coolers in the 50 dollar area though.

 

EDIT: Here is a link to the H5 Ultimate since it wasn't visiable on pcpartpicker for some reason: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF30R0134&cm_re=H5_Ultimate-_-13C-000U-00006-_-Product

 

Its also worth noting it WILL overhang your first RAM slot, but will leave slots 2-4 unhindered. it also has clearance for RAM up to 35mm tall in the first RAM slot, so getting some low profile memory may be the way to go if you're feeling paranoid about it (although the fan is adjustable, so it shouldn't be a big deal)

Thanks for the suggestions.

 

But what do you think about this case? https://m.newegg.com/Product?ItemNumber=11-854-003&iscoz=true

 

And can you recommend me a water cooler for around the same price of the H5 Ultimate or maybe even a little more? I would prefer not to cover any of my RAM slots.

[MadOver]

I would go for the Z170 Fatal1ty K6, awesome mobo with 12 power phases! 

[Zyndo]

18 minutes ago, Omie said:

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I do not know what the cable management room is like in that case, but if that is the case you want, it looks like it should fit all your other criteria just fine. its worth noting that its a full tower case, so its going to be larger than the 450D case. but Phanteks typically makes good cases, and if you want that case then you probably will be fine with it.

 

as far as CPU coolers go, you could always get the H5 universal, or mount the H5 ultimate's fan on the opposite side of the heatsink so that it doesn't interfere with the RAM. but if you want a water cooler, all of these units are pretty good and relatively reasonably priced:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w37wrH/corsair-cpu-cooler-h55

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vwdqqs/corsair-cpu-cooler-h60cw9060007ww

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DLkwrH/lepa-cpu-cooler-lpwac120hf

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hQ7CmG/lepa-cpu-cooler-lpwac240hf

 

There are certainly other ones, and certainly more expensive/better ones... but if it was my money those would be the ones I would be looking at. but you can go with something else entirely if you wish and be fine. there are SO MANY different CPU coolers out there on the market today and I certainly do not know them all so just because I've not mentioned it doesn't mean it is bad. for example bequiet and noctua make some great coolers and their names haven't come up in our conversations yet.

[Omie]

24 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

I do not know what the cable management room is like in that case, but if that is the case you want, it looks like it should fit all your other criteria just fine. its worth noting that its a full tower case, so its going to be larger than the 450D case. but Phanteks typically makes good cases, and if you want that case then you probably will be fine with it.

 

as far as CPU coolers go, you could always get the H5 universal, or mount the H5 ultimate's fan on the opposite side of the heatsink so that it doesn't interfere with the RAM. but if you want a water cooler, all of these units are pretty good and relatively reasonably priced:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w37wrH/corsair-cpu-cooler-h55

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vwdqqs/corsair-cpu-cooler-h60cw9060007ww

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DLkwrH/lepa-cpu-cooler-lpwac120hf

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hQ7CmG/lepa-cpu-cooler-lpwac240hf

 

There are certainly other ones, and certainly more expensive/better ones... but if it was my money those would be the ones I would be looking at. but you can go with something else entirely if you wish and be fine. there are SO MANY different CPU coolers out there on the market today and I certainly do not know them all so just because I've not mentioned it doesn't mean it is bad. for example bequiet and noctua make some great coolers and their names haven't come up in our conversations yet.

Thanks a lot for the options!

 

So I've decided on the Phanteks Enthoo Pro as my case and there are a lot of good reviews about it.

 

Now I just need to decide on a CPU cooler. Do you know if the H60 watercooler would give me lower temps compared to the H5?

[Zyndo]

12 minutes ago, Omie said:

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its tough to say. probably the H60 would be slightly better cooling, but it would also be louder due to a faster fan and pump noise (although that could be wrong as I do not have first hand experience with either of these coolers, you would have to go look up reviews to compare them). the lepa 240 would be noticeably better than the H5 though.

 

but you likely don't need to be doing any of this. if your goal is a 4.5GHz overclock, the H5 universal or H7 from Cryorig (or any number of other good air coolers) would probably be enough for that and not interfere with RAM.

[Matias_Chambers]

2 hours ago, Zyndo said:

H5 Ultimate

Just get the Universal so it doesn't overhang RAM slots. 

[Omie]

1 hour ago, Zyndo said:

its tough to say. probably the H60 would be slightly better cooling, but it would also be louder due to a faster fan and pump noise (although that could be wrong as I do not have first hand experience with either of these coolers, you would have to go look up reviews to compare them). the lepa 240 would be noticeably better than the H5 though.

 

but you likely don't need to be doing any of this. if your goal is a 4.5GHz overclock, the H5 universal or H7 from Cryorig (or any number of other good air coolers) would probably be enough for that and not interfere with RAM.

I decided that I'm going to be going with the Noctua DH15. And, I can move the second fan up for RAM clearance thanks to my case. I think my RAM (G Skill Ripjaws V) is around 40mm+ so I may have to move the fan up just by a little.

[Zyndo]

3 minutes ago, Omie said:

I decided that I'm going to be going with the Noctua DH15. And, I can move the second fan up for RAM clearance thanks to my case. I think my RAM (G Skill Ripjaws V) is around 40mm+ so I may have to move the fan up just by a little.

wait.... so you've gone from an H7 and "maybe a little more expensive" to the DH15? not to mention you didn't want RAM overhang and that thing is notorious for it! that cooler is great and all.... but for your needs its really unnecessary, and its really quite ugly IMO. but its your money. you do you. If you want RAM that can fit under it no problem, check out the corsair LPX lineup

[Omie]

50 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

wait.... so you've gone from an H7 and "maybe a little more expensive" to the DH15? not to mention you didn't want RAM overhang and that thing is notorious for it! that cooler is great and all.... but for your needs its really unnecessary, and its really quite ugly IMO. but its your money. you do you. If you want RAM that can fit under it no problem, check out the corsair LPX lineup

Well since this is a new build I would rather have the DH15's extra cooling capabilities over the H7/H5. I may end up wanting more of an OC in the future. And the RAM overhang isn't a big deal because my case allows me to move the fan up to make room.

[Zyndo]

10 hours ago, Omie said:

Well since this is a new build I would rather have the DH15's extra cooling capabilities over the H7/H5. I may end up wanting more of an OC in the future. And the RAM overhang isn't a big deal because my case allows me to move the fan up to make room.

well. if that is what you want, perhaps consider the R1 universal from Cryorig? the D15 is awesome and all, but its such an eyesore and would probably ruin all that black/red you got going on in your rig. the R1 universal should look quite a bit better, have 0 RAM interference and perform only marginally less compared to the D15 (acoustically they will be about the same, but the R1 Universal will probably be a degree or two warmer)

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8TvRsY/cryorig-cpu-cooler-crr1b

 

Also now that we're in this price bracket, I feel like I should also mention the Cooler Master Air Maker 8. You have such a cool black/red theme going on in your build that you may wish to consider this cooler for aesthetic reasons. They also make their V8 GTS cooler, which is similar aesthetically, but offers less RAM interference, lower cost, and slightly lower performance (the MasterAir Maker 8 has adjustable fan heights to compensate for any size RAM):

http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/v8-gts/

http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/masterair-maker-8/

 

pcpartpicker links:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kHdqqs/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrv8vc16prr1

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7sL7YJ/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-mazt8pn418prr1

 

its worth noting that both of these coolers are relatively tall, so be sure to check your case clearance. I also feel like its worth stating that the only thing I have against any noctua fans/heatsinks is their aesthetic deficiency... all of their products are exceptionally well performing especially for their price... but their designs/colours are just an eyesore for anyone with a windowed case. If you do not care about such a thing, then perhaps you should get the D15 after all, as it is (arguably) the best performing air cooler on the market to day (I think the air maker 8 is actually slightly better, but its very large, and a bit more expensive, so there are some drawbacks to it)

 

EDIT: So i just found a build that has the V8 GTS and your chosen Ripjaw V memory so we can tell from these pictures they will be 100% compatible clearance wise: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/G3f8TW

 

EDIT 2: the Enthoo Pro case has 193mm CPU cooler clearance, so its more than enough for any of these large coolers if you decide to go for them.

[Omie]

3 hours ago, Zyndo said:

well. if that is what you want, perhaps consider the R1 universal from Cryorig? the D15 is awesome and all, but its such an eyesore and would probably ruin all that black/red you got going on in your rig. the R1 universal should look quite a bit better, have 0 RAM interference and perform only marginally less compared to the D15 (acoustically they will be about the same, but the R1 Universal will probably be a degree or two warmer)

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8TvRsY/cryorig-cpu-cooler-crr1b

 

Also now that we're in this price bracket, I feel like I should also mention the Cooler Master Air Maker 8. You have such a cool black/red theme going on in your build that you may wish to consider this cooler for aesthetic reasons. They also make their V8 GTS cooler, which is similar aesthetically, but offers less RAM interference, lower cost, and slightly lower performance (the MasterAir Maker 8 has adjustable fan heights to compensate for any size RAM):

http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/v8-gts/

http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/masterair-maker-8/

 

pcpartpicker links:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kHdqqs/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrv8vc16prr1

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7sL7YJ/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-mazt8pn418prr1

 

its worth noting that both of these coolers are relatively tall, so be sure to check your case clearance. I also feel like its worth stating that the only thing I have against any noctua fans/heatsinks is their aesthetic deficiency... all of their products are exceptionally well performing especially for their price... but their designs/colours are just an eyesore for anyone with a windowed case. If you do not care about such a thing, then perhaps you should get the D15 after all, as it is (arguably) the best performing air cooler on the market to day (I think the air maker 8 is actually slightly better, but its very large, and a bit more expensive, so there are some drawbacks to it)

 

EDIT: So i just found a build that has the V8 GTS and your chosen Ripjaw V memory so we can tell from these pictures they will be 100% compatible clearance wise: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/G3f8TW

 

EDIT 2: the Enthoo Pro case has 193mm CPU cooler clearance, so its more than enough for any of these large coolers if you decide to go for them.

I really appreciate you researching this for me.

 

I have decided everything in my build except for the CPU cooler. I agree with you that the DH-15 is an eyesore and it would ruin my red/black theme that I have. That is the main reason why I have a little doubt about it. 

 

The V8 GTS looks amazing and it falls in-line with my theme, however, I looked at its performance and I'm disappointed to see even a DH-14 outperforms it. So I will be turning away from this option.

 

I think the last option left for me is to go for the water cooling option. However, the only thing I'm worried about is the amount of noise they make. I hear they are significantly louder than air coolers.

 

So, I'm kind of stuck here lol.

[Zyndo]

1 hour ago, Omie said:

I think the last option left for me is to go for the water cooling option. However, the only thing I'm worried about is the amount of noise they make. I hear they are significantly louder than air coolers.

That is a myth. the reason people say that is because you have pump noise as well as fan noise, instead of just fan noise when compared to an air cooler. realistically though, if you buy a good quality AIO (such as one from Corsair or NZXT), the pump noise is minimal, and the larger surface area of something like a 240 or 280 radiator means that you can get the same amount of cooling out of slower fan speeds or even MORE total cooling if you ramp up the fan speeds, when compared to an air cooler. so yes, they CAN be significantly louder than an air cooler, but when that happens they're also significantly better than even the best air cooler.

 

But seriously dude, just get the V8 GTS if you like its look. you do not need to compare it to a noctua heatsink. if you want the ultimate performance, you will want a 240/280/360 AIO anyway as these will typically out perform any air cooler (even the D15). the V8 has a TON of cooling performance and it will very easily get you the OC's you want with room to spare... You're getting overly paranoid about 3-5 degrees of cooling potential, which is going to be completely irrelevant unless you're going for the absolute limit of overclocking which you can get (in which case you're going to want a water cooling unit because they're the best performing). Your choice of fan curve speeds are going to make a lot more cooling difference than your choice of cooler between a D15/V8 GTS

 

 

 

but anywho I think I'm going to step out of this thread now. You keep changing your definition of what you want. I cannot give you advice if you're this indecisive about your requirements. If you want budget friendly and a 4.5GHz overclock, get the H7 or H5 Universal. If you want better cooling and excellent aesthetics, get the V8 GTS. If you want the best cooling/acoustics and you don't care about aesthetics, get the D15. If you want the most maximum performance and don't care about your wallet, get a 280mm AIO cooler like the Corsair H115i or NZXT X61/X62 or a 360mm AIO if your case can fit one.

[Omie]

15 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

That is a myth. the reason people say that is because you have pump noise as well as fan noise, instead of just fan noise when compared to an air cooler. realistically though, if you buy a good quality AIO (such as one from Corsair or NZXT), the pump noise is minimal, and the larger surface area of something like a 240 or 280 radiator means that you can get the same amount of cooling out of slower fan speeds or even MORE total cooling if you ramp up the fan speeds, when compared to an air cooler. so yes, they CAN be significantly louder than an air cooler, but when that happens they're also significantly better than even the best air cooler.

 

But seriously dude, just get the V8 GTS if you like its look. you do not need to compare it to a noctua heatsink. if you want the ultimate performance, you will want a 240/280/360 AIO anyway as these will typically out perform any air cooler (even the D15). the V8 has a TON of cooling performance and it will very easily get you the OC's you want with room to spare... You're getting overly paranoid about 3-5 degrees of cooling potential, which is going to be completely irrelevant unless you're going for the absolute limit of overclocking which you can get (in which case you're going to want a water cooling unit because they're the best performing). Your choice of fan curve speeds are going to make a lot more cooling difference than your choice of cooler between a D15/V8 GTS

 

 

 

but anywho I think I'm going to step out of this thread now. You keep changing your definition of what you want. I cannot give you advice if you're this indecisive about your requirements. If you want budget friendly and a 4.5GHz overclock, get the H7 or H5 Universal. If you want better cooling and excellent aesthetics, get the V8 GTS. If you want the best cooling/acoustics and you don't care about aesthetics, get the D15. If you want the most maximum performance and don't care about your wallet, get a 280mm AIO cooler like the Corsair H115i or NZXT X61/X62 or a 360mm AIO if your case can fit one.

Thank you for your help! Sorry about my indecisiveness. I'm going to probably just get the R1 Ultimate/Universal because I don't want to ruin my black/red theme.