Professional Editing PC

[CactusTravis]

So, if I was to take out a loan, for starting up a business that was based on editing video/photos in 4k, with after effects and 3d modeling/rendering, and say my budget was 5k (including monitors, hardware and input devices, not software) what would you do differently with this build?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3DJ8Z8

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3DJ8Z8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3DJ8Z8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6850K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($609.98 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($88.33 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-Ultra Gaming ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($271.98 @ Directron)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($271.98 @ Directron)
Storage: Patriot Blaze 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($51.34 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk X400 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($236.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba X300 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($198.99 @ Other World Computing)
Storage: Toshiba X300 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($198.99 @ Other World Computing)
Storage: Toshiba X300 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($198.99 @ Other World Computing)
Storage: Toshiba X300 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($198.99 @ Other World Computing)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($619.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Grey) ATX Full Tower Case  ($196.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($118.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12D2HT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  ($112.00 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($84.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: LG 29UM67 29.0" 60Hz Monitor  ($254.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Samsung U28E590D 28.0" 60Hz Monitor  ($369.99 @ B&H)
Other: 49 inch 4k ($600.00)
Total: $4923.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-08 08:55 EDT-0400

 

 

 

Please give some input on WHY you would use a different part. Thank you!

[MVPernula]

Well I don't really see why anything should be replaced.

Maybe a GTX Titan X Pascal would do since you're going all in overkill anyways.

[DisabledBaecon]

I have a suggestion for your storage, instead of getting that 120gb SATA SSD, find yourself a M.2 NVME SSD to boot your OS, also have your programs stored on your 1TB SSD for performance. Also, you have 4 6TB drives, are they going to be in a raid array? Would you actually need 24TB of storage? Also, do a price to storage capacity comparison of the most popular 6TB and 8TB drives. Then, if money is an issue, get the drive that has the lowest price to storage ratio. 

Also get Windows 10 Pro?
Why would you get 2 different brand and sized monitors? Could you not just get 2 of the same time monitor?

 

[Rohime]

Why two different monitors? (+4k)

The LG monitor is FreeSync.  The graphics card is Nvidia (ie:  GSync not FreeSync).

Not sure you care for a video editing machine.

 

You should be careful about choosing graphics card.  You should check your software and workout what cards that software works best with to offload processing from CPU to GPU.    Check in custom filters that you are particularly depend on as well.

 

You probably need a larger Boot SSD than 120GB.   This is because you should plan on having the page / swap file on the Boot Disk, and your page / swap file really should be at least 1.5x Memory size ... so 1.5 x 128GB RAM is like 200GB of boot disk just for that.    You could of course just run without a Page/Swap file, or put it on the 1TB SSD, but that might cause you some unexpected behavior under heavy load.

 

 

 

[DisabledBaecon]

Travis, I would also suggest to spec up a second build, Video Editing and 3D modelling benefit from more cores. A Xeon system would be better suited. Keep everything else almost the same. Change the motherboard, change the processor and possibly have a dual Processor System, however with that you'd have to use Windows Server, but that's not really an issue, I'd assume.

[CactusTravis]

11 minutes ago, MVPernula said:

Well I don't really see why anything should be replaced.

Maybe a GTX Titan X Pascal would do since you're going all in overkill anyways.

 

im not sure a Titan X is really worth it considering how much the gpu can take load off the cpu work load.

 

8 minutes ago, DisabledBaecon said:

I have a suggestion for your storage, instead of getting that 120gb SATA SSD, find yourself a M.2 NVME SSD to boot your OS, also have your programs stored on your 1TB SSD for performance. Also, you have 4 6TB drives, are they going to be in a raid array? Would you actually need 24TB of storage? Also, do a price to storage capacity comparison of the most popular 6TB and 8TB drives. Then, if money is an issue, get the drive that has the lowest price to storage ratio. 

Also get Windows 10 Pro?
Why would you get 2 different brand and sized monitors? Could you not just get 2 of the same time monitor?

 

The 6TB drives are simply to backup data. I had planned on using the 1TB SSD as my working drive, the 120gb as my boot drive and the other HDDs for long term file storage. Some projects can be up to 2gb each and storing those assets for later revision work is a must. I am not completely against an m.2 drive, but ill need some research after the input from  Rohime.

7 minutes ago, Rohime said:

Why two different monitors? (+4k)

The LG monitor is FreeSync.  The graphics card is Nvidia (ie:  GSync not FreeSync).

Not sure you care for a video editing machine.

 

You should be careful about choosing graphics card.  You should check your software and workout what cards that software works best with to offload processing from CPU to GPU.    Check in custom filters that you are particularly depend on as well.

 

You probably need a larger Boot SSD than 120GB.   This is because you should plan on having the page / swap file on the Boot Disk, and your page / swap file really should be at least 1.5x Memory size ... so 1.5 x 128GB RAM is like 200GB of boot disk just for that.    You could of course just run without a Page/Swap file, or put it on the 1TB SSD, but that might cause you some unexpected behavior under heavy load.

 

 

 

Okay, the reason for the monitors (there is actually 3 in total) The ultrawide is for timeline, the 16:9 for on the fly image and asset editing and the 49" 4k Television was for real time 4k playback in full screen.

Thee G-sync Freesync was simply an oversight and not something I paid attention to, I could find another monitor to substitute.

 

I didn't put a ton of thought into the graphics card either, I just grabbed something powerful, this is the sort of feedback I wanted exactly. This will be my first time with the ability to drop this much cash on a build so some things I just didn't know to look out for. I will do more research on what to use, but my software would be mainly, Cinema 4d, Sony Vegas, and the Adobe software (Aftereffects etc)

 

I was under the impression that a page/swap was used for "Virtual Ram" and being the machine was 128gb, I guess I just overlooked the issues. Could you elaborate more on the reason i would want to use this with such a RAM capacity available to me already?

2 minutes ago, DisabledBaecon said:

Travis, I would also suggest to spec up a second build, Video Editing and 3D modelling benefit from more cores. A Xeon system would be better suited. Keep everything else almost the same. Change the motherboard, change the processor and possibly have a dual Processor System, however with that you'd have to use Windows Server, but that's not really an issue, I'd assume.

I am not experienced with Windows Server, or using dual processor system but I am absolutely not against it. Thank you for the feedback, I am very inexperienced at this end of the hardware spectrum.

 

Can you elaborate on how the system would be different?

[DisabledBaecon]

3 minutes ago, CactusTravis said:

I am not experienced with Windows Server, or using dual processor system but I am absolutely not against it. Thank you for the feedback, I am very inexperienced at this end of the hardware spectrum.

 

Can you elaborate on how the system would be different?

Well like I have said having more cores is better for Video Editing and 3D modelling. You can get older Xeon CPUs on Ebay quite cheap, I've seen some 8 Core CPUs go for as little as 15GBP. I personally haven't built any dual CPU systems either, but I am looking at building a workstation PC with at least 16 cores and 128gb ram. 

When I have the money to build such a system I can tell you of my experience in the build, start another thread asking for suggestions for a Dual Xeon system? There's definitely other people on the forum with better knowledge of dual CPU systems than Me. However ill be available to if needed. Feel free to message me for a less formal, more casual conversation regarding this stuff

[Prysin]

3 hours ago, CactusTravis said:

So, if I was to take out a loan, for starting up a business that was based on editing video/photos in 4k, with after effects and 3d modeling/rendering, and say my budget was 5k (including monitors, hardware and input devices, not software) what would you do differently with this build?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3DJ8Z8

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3DJ8Z8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3DJ8Z8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6850K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($609.98 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($88.33 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-Ultra Gaming ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($271.98 @ Directron)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($271.98 @ Directron)
Storage: Patriot Blaze 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($51.34 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk X400 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($236.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba X300 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($198.99 @ Other World Computing)
Storage: Toshiba X300 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($198.99 @ Other World Computing)
Storage: Toshiba X300 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($198.99 @ Other World Computing)
Storage: Toshiba X300 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($198.99 @ Other World Computing)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($619.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Grey) ATX Full Tower Case  ($196.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($118.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12D2HT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  ($112.00 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($84.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: LG 29UM67 29.0" 60Hz Monitor  ($254.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Samsung U28E590D 28.0" 60Hz Monitor  ($369.99 @ B&H)
Other: 49 inch 4k ($600.00)
Total: $4923.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-08 08:55 EDT-0400

 

 

 

Please give some input on WHY you would use a different part. Thank you!

get a Macbook PRO, it will be faster at editing then that rig and cost less.

its sad, but its TRUE.

 

build a PC half as expensive for 3D modeling/CAD/CAE and you are set.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pb9JwV

 

Get a Synology DS216Play NAS and stick 2 of those WD REDs into that one. Synologys NAS software is VERY good for both MAC and PC. This will allow you to easily transfer files back and forth and keep a backup.

 

 

[gtx1060=value]

Personally, I think that just getting 2 lg or 2 samsung monitors to compliment the 49 inch monitor would be a way better choice. You do have to make sure that the monitors have the same length, so that it doesn't look really bad

[CactusTravis]

updated part list after some research and taking some feedback.

 

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/HxzNpb
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/HxzNpb/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6850K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($609.98 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($88.33 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-Ultra Gaming ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($271.98 @ Directron)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($271.98 @ Directron)
Storage: Mushkin ECO3 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk X400 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($236.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba X300 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($198.99 @ Other World Computing)
Storage: Toshiba X300 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($198.99 @ Other World Computing)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 1080 8GB XLR8 Video Card  ($589.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Grey) ATX Full Tower Case  ($196.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($109.98 @ My Choice Software)
Monitor: LG 27MP67HQ 27.0" 60Hz Monitor  ($206.38 @ Amazon)
Monitor: LG 27MP67HQ 27.0" 60Hz Monitor  ($206.38 @ Amazon)
Other: 49 inch 4k ($600.00)
Total: $4200.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-08 19:46 EDT-0400

[Rohime]

11 hours ago, CactusTravis said:

I didn't put a ton of thought into the graphics card either, I just grabbed something powerful, this is the sort of feedback I wanted exactly. This will be my first time with the ability to drop this much cash on a build so some things I just didn't know to look out for. I will do more research on what to use, but my software would be mainly, Cinema 4d, Sony Vegas, and the Adobe software (Aftereffects etc)

 

I was under the impression that a page/swap was used for "Virtual Ram" and being the machine was 128gb, I guess I just overlooked the issues. Could you elaborate more on the reason i would want to use this with such a RAM capacity available to me already?

 

 

Worth taking a look at this: https://forums.adobe.com/message/6166335#6166335 and the linked articles.

Basically it says that in base Adobe product the only GPU specific acceleration is Ray Tracing.

Element 3D seems a bit more specific though ... but not enough to worry about.

 

Also: https://www.reddit.com/r/Cinema4D/comments/3otc1o/c4d_octane_users_which_is_the_preferred_gpu/?st=iu1y6czt&sh=37e3f213

Suggests that the Octane Renderer is your best bet for overall performance in Cinema 4d - and can use Nvidia GTX cards just fine.

 

ie: the GTX card you pick should be OK, only step up is Titan X(Pascal) ... and no real value in the Quatros for you.

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The page/swap is there as disk backup and expansion if the main memory fills up.   You *can* run without a page swap file at all, but then if you run out of main memory, well ... you run out of main memory and the processes will crash.      If you are confident that you'll never fill main RAM, then having no page/swap can marginally improve performance (because you never swap any memory to disk, and therefore no penalty of disk I/O).   The trade off is system stability if you ever do fill memory.    

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[Rohime]

One more thing ... 

If you are trying to buy kit now that sets you up for quite a while, you might want to look at 4k monitors with HDR (High Dynamic Range).   Could be a point of differentiation for you (for a while) if you can produce HDR 4K Video.