gtx 460?

[brownninja97]

Ive found a open box gtx 460 on the internet for £42(not used but not in its box), my cousin wants to play call of duty, minecraft and rift, maybe borderlands. he cant go next gen which he wants to as his parents dont like the pay for internet stuff and i might of started getting loud about steam prices been 200% lower then console prices. 

Anyways it will be paired with a pentium 2020 or an athlon x3 depending on which is cheaper when i order(they seem to go up and down quickly). Also take in mind that this is a £350 build which includes win7, so i guess its a £280 build.

[piplupgao]

Your better off with an apu

[Classics]

At that budget better off going with an APU build and upgrading to a dedicated GPU later on.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  AMD A8-6600K 3.9GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£80.39 @ Aria PC) 

Motherboard:  MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard  (£43.21 @ Dabs) 

Memory:  Mushkin Radioactive 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£50.12 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£44.95 @ CCL Computers) 

Case:  Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£27.77 @ Novatech) 

Power Supply:  XFX 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  (£34.99 @ Maplin Electronics) 

Total: £281.43

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-15 21:00 BST+0100)

[s3ns3]

Your better off with an apu

gtx 460 ~= hd 7770 . so way better than apu

 

or gtx 460 and athlon 750K,which is the cpu found in a10 5800K. but get dedicated gpu + cpu for sure not apu

Edited October 15, 2013 by s3ns3

[Maverik5124]

Your better off with an apu

Probably this. See if you can squeeze an A10 and some 1866mhz ram (or higher) into that budget.

 

also: minecraft is a pretty cpu intensive game...

[piplupgao]

gtx 460 ~= hd 7770 . so way better than apu

not for minecraft

[s3ns3]

not for minecraft

why ? you wanna tell me that the weak gpu found in apus is better? couse no . 

 

or like i said in my edited post,athlon x4 + dedicated gpu. but hell no apu couse he can get a decent but better gpu

Edited October 15, 2013 by s3ns3

[Guest GRRigger]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  AMD Athlon II X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£57.30 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Motherboard:  MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard  (£43.21 @ Dabs) 

Memory:  Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£38.20 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.00 @ Amazon UK) 

Case:  Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£27.77 @ Novatech) 

Power Supply:  XFX 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  (£34.99 @ Maplin Electronics) 

Other: gtx 460 (£42.00)

Total: £278.47

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-15 21:09 BST+0100)

 

Dont overclock on this board tho. You CAN but i dont recommend overclocking without cpu cooler and mATX mobo that is mid range. The clock on cpu is fine, you can downvolt.

Cpu fits & works on this mobo.

[piplupgao]

why ? you wanna tell me that the weak gpu found in apus is better? couse no

minecraft is mostly CPU bound

[s3ns3]

minecraft is mostly CPU bound

read my edit

[FellTheSky]

wtf are these fanboys saying, a gtx 460 will destroy an apu any day

[D3MON]

i agree cheapest amd tripple/quad core you can get (20% better ipc doesnt beat 50-100% more cores in this case) and i have a gtx260 and a gtx285 which will be beaten by (and go toe to toe with) a 460, except the 460 has dx11 as a bonus.
should be good for mid range (medium at 1600x900 etc) in most games.
the games you listed arnt demanding at all, on minecraft 1.6.4 im capped at 120fps (not vsync i only have a 60hz tv)
and call of duty can be run on a pentium 3...
you can likely do some gta4/5 on it aswell, check out some youtube videos, ONLY pay attention to the ones with full system specs and give an fps ("with fraps-without fraps") and you'll have a rough idea.
a 9600gt in most second hand online stores like CEX go for £30 and i paid £45 for my 260 (its not a vanilla one so im happy)

[brownninja97]

The gtx 460 has 336 cuda cores, nearly the same as a gtx 650, that beats all apus.

[piplupgao]

read my edit

that works

[piplupgao]

wtf are these fanboys saying, a gtx 460 will destroy an apu any day

not in minecraft

 

The gtx 460 has 336 cuda cores, nearly the same as a gtx 650, that beats all apus.

with mantle, not necessarily

[legopc]

wtf are these fanboys saying, a gtx 460 will destroy an apu any day

i dont think they are fanboys and please prove that a 460 outprefroms an apu 

[delet my acc pls]

why ? you wanna tell me that the weak gpu found in apus is better? couse no . 

 

or like i said in my edited post,athlon x4 + dedicated gpu. but hell no apu couse he can get a decent but better gpu

Minecraft is CPU intensive not Very demanding on the GPU side.

[D3MON]

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1PbTY
YES its over budget but unlike most people here i have experiance with these parts, my mate (lives in the flat next door) actually has this board (as do i) and he has an athlon 640 and we've been playing bf4 until now with him on my gtx260, it only got 45fps at 1366x768 but its beta...
i've PM'd you, ask us and we can give you an in depth review on any component you like, you could get it closer to the budget if you take out the cooler but...yeah.
Also see if you can find some other way to get windows, see if anyone you know has a copy...

[brownninja97]

not in minecraft

 

with mantle, not necessarily

If he wants to play next gen then the budget will have to increase a ton, the pentium will not keep up, the list of games dont have mantle support and to be honest it is highly unlikely for older games to get mantle support.

[brownninja97]

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1PbTY

YES its over budget but unlike most people here i have experiance with these parts, my mate (lives in the flat next door) actually has this board (as do i) and he has an athlon 640 and we've been playing bf4 until now with him on my gtx260, it only got 45fps at 1366x768 but its beta...

i've PM'd you, ask us and we can give you an in depth review on any component you like, you could get it closer to the budget if you take out the cooler but...yeah.

Also see if you can find some other way to get windows, see if anyone you know has a copy...

Thats a pretty nice build, of course ill cheap out on the case(coolermaster, not cit level of course) and the cpu cooler will not be needed, i dont overclock a customers cpu as it could cause warrenty problem, if they want to overclock then im not responsible for the problems they create.

[D3MON]

i dont think they are fanboys and please prove that a 460 outprefroms an apu 

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-A10-6800K-and-A10-6700-Review-Richland-Finally-Lands/Results-Skyrim-DiRT-3-an

34.5fps at 1280x960 on medium

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2011/11/10/battlefield-3-technical-analysis/4

31fps at 1080p on ultra!

I dont know if people are dillusional about the power an apu has (whcih is still good) or wether they are trying to s***w this kid over.

there is a reason why people with something like a 7770 dont use the apu part of the system if they have 1, for basic gaming like 720p on medium on dirt 3 its fine, for windows games and desktop tower defense its plenty but you cant game on it like you can with a dedicated gpu.

[brownninja97]

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-A10-6800K-and-A10-6700-Review-Richland-Finally-Lands/Results-Skyrim-DiRT-3-an

34.5fps at 1280x960 on medium

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2011/11/10/battlefield-3-technical-analysis/4

31fps at 1080p on ultra!

I dont know if people are dillusional about the power an apu has (whcih is still good) or wether they are trying to s***w this kid over.

there is a reason why people with something like a 7770 dont use the apu part of the system if they have 1, for basic gaming like 720p on medium on dirt 3 its fine, for windows games and esktop tower defense its plenty but you cant game on it like you can with a dedicated gpu.

Thank you, i should hire you when i need to verbally destroy someone

[legopc]

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-A10-6800K-and-A10-6700-Review-Richland-Finally-Lands/Results-Skyrim-DiRT-3-an

34.5fps at 1280x960 on medium

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2011/11/10/battlefield-3-technical-analysis/4

31fps at 1080p on ultra!

I dont know if people are dillusional about the power an apu has (whcih is still good) or wether they are trying to s***w this kid over.

there is a reason why people with something like a 7770 dont use the apu part of the system if they have 1, for basic gaming like 720p on medium on dirt 3 its fine, for windows games and esktop tower defense its plenty but you cant game on it like you can with a dedicated gpu.

you are comletly right but i THINK in this scenario its a bit better to buy a little bit better apu and then buy a dedicated gpu becaus in case the guy wants to upgrade he would have to buy a new cpu(and mobo mabey) AND a new gpu now if he can just get a gpu to boost preformance 

[Guest GRRigger]

you are comletly right but i THINK in this scenario its a bit better to buy a little bit better apu and then buy a dedicated gpu becaus in case the guy wants to upgrade he would have to buy a new cpu(and mobo mabey) AND a new gpu now if he can just get a gpu to boost preformance 

Athlon x4 CPU perf. = APU CPU perf.

WHY would he have to buy new cpu and mobo? 

 

If he wants to upgrade gpu, he sells this one. You cant sell iGPU. Its just stuck there useless like a virus, that you payed 35 pounds extra for. ( 5800k) i wont even consider lower APU because even gt630 can outperform it. And I wont even mention horrible price / performance of 6800k going for 105 pounds.

While he can get HD7770 (gtx 460) for 14 quid more that that and play games @ 1080p at medium setting NOW.

[FellTheSky]

i dont think they are fanboys and please prove that a 460 outprefroms an apu 

5800k 1866 memory. P1618

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5894096

 

gtx 460 and 2500k P4507

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/3309167

 

gtx 460 and a8 3850 P 4209

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/2565662

 

gtx 460 and Intel core 2 duo e8200 P 3496

 

So yeah...even with a freaking core 2 duo