Looking for some help between AMD and Intel

[TRTJoshua]

So recently I watched a video from Tek Syndicate saying that the AMD FX 8350 seems to be better when it comes to streaming than the i5 but my problem is:

Current Spec:

8GB Ram

Intel I3 2100

Gigabyte H61M USB 3 UD3 

AMD 7870 XFX Ghz 

 

I would like to start streaming games like DayZ Which if you don't know if very hard on the processor

 

My question is should I get the I7 3770k with this current motherboard or should i get the AMD FX 8350 with a new mother board such as 

AsRock 990FX Extreme3 Motherboard: http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-990FX-EXTREME3-Extreme3-Motherboard/dp/B005POPQZA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381747555&sr=8-1&keywords=990FX  or 

MSI 990FXA Motherboard  : http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-990FXA-Motherboard-Processor-Gigabit/dp/B004ZHC2DC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1381747555&sr=8-4&keywords=990FX

 

Sorry for the long winded question hope I can receive some help.

 

Also if you think i should go with the AMD then maybe suggest some other MOBOS

Thanks 

[acepro71]

So recently I watched a video from Tek Syndicate saying that the AMD FX 8350 seems to be better when it comes to streaming than the i5 but my problem is:

Current Spec:

8GB Ram

Intel I3 2100

Gigabyte H61M USB 3 UD3 

AMD 7870 XFX Ghz 

 

I would like to start streaming games like DayZ Which if you don't know if very hard on the processor

 

My question is should I get the I7 3770k with this current motherboard or should i get the AMD FX 8350 with a new mother board such as 

AsRock 990FX Extreme3 Motherboard: http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-990FX-EXTREME3-Extreme3-Motherboard/dp/B005POPQZA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381747555&sr=8-1&keywords=990FX  or 

MSI 990FXA Motherboard  : http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-990FXA-Motherboard-Processor-Gigabit/dp/B004ZHC2DC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1381747555&sr=8-4&keywords=990FX

 

Sorry for the long winded question hope I can receive some help.

 

Also if you think i should go with the AMD then maybe suggest some other MOBOS

Thanks 

 

 

well yeah its better with x split it depends if u wanna do that or not but if ur streaming then yeah go with 8350 ...

 

its cheap too so could save some money

 

+ r u thinking about over-clocking if not ill go for a cheaper mobo ...

[MikeTz]

3770k is your best option since you already have a mobo and the 3770 chip is a lot better than 8350

8350 8 "cores"(They are not not 8 real cores)

3770 4 real cores and 4 with hyperthreading

Also Intel is better everywhere else and I believe that 3770 and 8350 are about the same thing in streaming

[Venomz1337]

I believe you can't overclock a 3770k so a new motherboard may be needed. Intel is still a better choice in my opinion.

[Samdb]

This choice should be depend on your budget, not which company your prefer the most, otherwise you will not receive the best performance for the budget you are willing to spend. For lower budget systems, go with AMD, no questions asked. Their processors and APUs provide the best price to performance and will exceed processors from Intel at the same price point. However if you have a large budget Intel is the way to go, if you can afford to buy an Intel processor you will see a performance increase over the same tier AMD CPU. This is excellent for higher end PCs which need the extra performance. If you want a satisfactory experience you will have to buy a new motherboard, which motherboard and socket should depend on your budget and which side you choose.

 

Sam,

Intel Response Squad member

http://bit.ly/IntelRally

[TRTJoshua]

Well they are both the same price if I buy the AMD and a mother board or just the I7 the problem I have is I don't have enough money for I7 and motherboard at the moment so would it be better to get the AMD as i get a more future proof motherboard? thanks for the quick responses

[Wolfur]

So recently I watched a video from Tek Syndicate saying that the AMD FX 8350 seems to be better when it comes to streaming than the i5 but my problem is:

Current Spec:

8GB Ram

Intel I3 2100

Gigabyte H61M USB 3 UD3 

AMD 7870 XFX Ghz 

 

I would like to start streaming games like DayZ Which if you don't know if very hard on the processor

 

My question is should I get the I7 3770k with this current motherboard or should i get the AMD FX 8350 with a new mother board such as 

AsRock 990FX Extreme3 Motherboard: http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-990FX-EXTREME3-Extreme3-Motherboard/dp/B005POPQZA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381747555&sr=8-1&keywords=990FX  or 

MSI 990FXA Motherboard  : http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-990FXA-Motherboard-Processor-Gigabit/dp/B004ZHC2DC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1381747555&sr=8-4&keywords=990FX

 

Sorry for the long winded question hope I can receive some help.

 

Also if you think i should go with the AMD then maybe suggest some other MOBOS

Thanks 

 

You already have a mobo and i would say "go Xeon e3-1230v2" but your mobo only supports the v1 which is sandy bridge.

 

Thus, I would say:

 

go for 3770 (not a "K" version since you cant overclock it anyway with this mobo), will be a bit more than a Xeon e3-1230v2 but you cant use that xeon with your old mobo.

 

Overclocking i7 doesnt give you as much performance to be worth it in your case and i7 is superior to AMDs fx 83xx overally.

 

Just get i7-3770.

[MikeTz]

You already have a mobo and i would say "go Xeon e3-1230v2" but your mobo only supports the v1 which is sandy bridge.

 

Thus, I would say:

 

go for 3770 (not a "K" version since you cant overclock it anyway with this mobo), will be a bit more than a Xeon e3-1230v2 but you cant use that xeon with your old mobo.

 

Overclocking i7 doesnt give you as much performance to be worth it in your case and i7 is superior to AMDs fx 83xx overally.

 

Just get i7-3770.

This.

[Wolfur]

This.

 

Or this if he wants to save a bit money by going with Sandy Bridge i7 (a tiny bit slower and more outdated than ivy bridge i7 but cheaper):

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80623e31230

[TRTJoshua]

Or this if he wants to save a bit money by going with Sandy Bridge i7 (a tiny bit slower and more outdated than ivy bridge i7 but cheaper):

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80623e31230

Think I will go for the I7 Because I fell more confident purchasing that because more reviews on Amazon.

[TRTJoshua]

If I am not overclocking can I use the included cooler that comes with the Chip?

[Bluethulhu]

If I am not overclocking can I use the included cooler that comes with the Chip?

Yes. It will work perfectly fine.

[stianm3]

i choos AMD cuz of the price but the fx 8350 is fast and i run bf4 smooth with it no problems my friends with the same videocard and intel corei7 3770k is not running as good as I am

[TRTJoshua]

Thanks everyone for your input.

[TRTJoshua]

i choos AMD cuz of the price but the fx 8350 is fast and i run bf4 smooth with it no problems my friends with the same videocard and intel corei7 3770k is not running as good as I am

I Don't see how your friend is struggling because I can Run at around 55-60 FPS and im using Intel I3 and the 7870 maybe its his drivers

[onionring]

i choos AMD cuz of the price but the fx 8350 is fast and i run bf4 smooth with it no problems my friends with the same videocard and intel corei7 3770k is not running as good as I am

Good choice, now you re only a few parts a short of a nas / of sense box / other PC. You couldn't t say that about having only a CPU left out....

  

I Don't see how your friend is struggling because I can Run at around 55-60 FPS and im using Intel I3 and the 7870 maybe its his drivers

He s probably running win7...

[stianm3]

Good choice, now you re only a few parts a short of a nas / of sense box / other PC. You couldn't t say that about having only a CPU left out....

  

He s probably running win7...

dont know dont care my amd build is better then his intel <3 so fuck him

[MikeTz]

dont know dont care my amd build is better then his intel <3 so fuck him 

Hey dude watch your language in the forum. We are not trying to be Tom's Hardware over here!

Also stop being a fanboy please.

Edited October 14, 2013 by MikeTz

[Eroda]

Well they are both the same price if I buy the AMD and a mother board or just the I7 the problem I have is I don't have enough money for I7 and motherboard at the moment so would it be better to get the AMD as i get a more future proof motherboard? thanks for the quick responses

 

AM3+ isnt future proof its actually ancient. and there is strong talk that AM3/3+ is EOL 

[amdfx1997kid]

id say save the motherboard get a i5 or i7 (although i personaly love amd )

[IdeaStormer]

I know it involves reading but something to consider and ponder : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/storage-controller-performance-ssd,3540.html

 

Sorry for the homework but its best if you read it yourself and digest without my interference.

[kinkywink]

3770k is your best option since you already have a mobo and the 3770 chip is a lot better than 8350

8350 8 "cores"(They are not not 8 real cores)

3770 4 real cores and 4 with hyperthreading

Also Intel is better everywhere else and I believe that 3770 and 8350 are about the same thing in streaming

wrong..they are all real cores. just because they dont follow the same build structure as intel doenst mean its "fake" or "not real".

there are threads on this forum that actually explain that they are real.

[MikeTz]

wrong..they are all real cores. just because they dont follow the same build structure as intel doenst mean its "fake" or "not real".

there are threads on this forum that actually explain that they are real.

It has 4 modules with 2 "cores" inside,but 1 module from AMD is 1 real core from Intel.

That is why a 4-core CPU from Intel is better than an 8-core AMD CPU

 

Edit: Because of that AMD's 8-core CPU's aren't really 8 cores but 4 modules which have 2 computation cores inside 

 

2nd Edit:You are right about the statement that I made that they are not real cores.They are actually real cores,just very weak.

Edited October 15, 2013 by MikeTz

[kinkywink]

It has 4 modules with 2 "cores" inside,but 1 module from AMD is 1 real core from Intel.

That is why a 4-core CPU from Intel is better than an 8-core AMD CPU

 

Edit: Because of that AMD's 8-core CPU's aren't really 8 cores but 4 modules which have 2 computation cores inside 

 

2nd Edit:You are right about the statement that I made that they are not real cores.They are actually real cores,just very weak.

wrong..

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/48571-intel-amd-architectural-discussion-how-far-ahead-intel-really-is/

 

 

An AMD module packs more performance than intel core which takes roughly the same die area.

So architecturally speaking, Intel isn't really ahead of AMD nor is AMD ahead of Intel so to speak, the parallel nature of the AMD modules gives them the pure performance advantage over the intel cores, however what intel lacks in total CPU throughput makes up in single-core throughput.

In an absolute sense an AMD module can process more data faster than an intel core, however there is a sacrifice which is single-threaded performance.

Although the majority of CPU-intensive programs are already multi-thread reliant & the ones that aren't are becoming so which will in turn make this sacrifice worth it for AMD.

The reason why Intel stuck to single-threaded performance focused CPUs is because it's easier to write code for one thread as opposed to two but it's becoming extremely difficult to push more performance out of a single thread which makes the move to higher parallelism inevitable.

 

also about true cores : https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/43829-the-difference-between-amd-cores-and-intel-cores/

[MikeTz]

wrong..

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/48571-intel-amd-architectural-discussion-how-far-ahead-intel-really-is/

 

 

An AMD module packs more performance than intel core which takes roughly the same die area.

So architecturally speaking, Intel isn't really ahead of AMD nor is AMD ahead of Intel so to speak, the parallel nature of the AMD modules gives them the pure performance advantage over the intel cores, however what intel lacks in total CPU throughput makes up in single-core throughput.

In an absolute sense an AMD module can process more data faster than an intel core, however there is a sacrifice which is single-threaded performance.

Although the majority of CPU-intensive programs are already multi-thread reliant & the ones that aren't are becoming so which will in turn make this sacrifice worth it for AMD.

The reason why Intel stuck to single-threaded performance focused CPUs is because it's easier to write code for one thread as opposed to two but it's becoming extremely difficult to push more performance out of a single thread which makes the move to higher parallelism inevitable.

 

also about true cores : https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/43829-the-difference-between-amd-cores-and-intel-cores/

Look, I bet I can find some other post or article or whatever that says otherwise.

Either way the point is that Intel takes the crown for better CPU's and is the better option for the OP.

Lastly all the benchmarks that show that AMD is better are synthetic and DO NOT represent real world performance,

also the games that were tested are all the same all the some favor AMD and some favor Intel.

Intel is better in general and AMD is better in special occasion,that is a fact.