Jump to content

Hey all,

 

  My wife has a '16 Razer Blade and she wants the Core.  I tried to talk her out of it but no go.  You want what you want right?  Anyway.... I'm 

trying to figure out the best card I can put in this thing that will get the best results with the bottlenecking that will occur.  I know this will work with a GTX 1080 but would it bottleneck it to bad and would I get a better back from a lower card.  Thanks for the help!

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/641677-razer-core-and-best-gpu/
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

The core probably bottlenecks transitioning from PCIe to Thunderbolt.
So, no matter what GPU you buy, you'll probably experience hurt performance.
If you've considered a 1080, I'd just get a 1080.

[CPU: 4.7ghz I5 6600k] [MBAsus Z170 Pro G] [RAM: G.Skill 2400 16GB(2x8)]

[GPU: MSI Twin Frozr GTX 970] [PSU: XFX Pro 850W] [Cooler: Hyper 212 Evo]
[Storage: 500GB WD HDD / 128GB SanDisk SSD ] [Case: DeepCool Tessaract]

[Keyboard: AZIO MGK1] [Mouse: Logitech G303] [Monitor: 2 x Acer 23" 1080p IPS]

 

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/641677-razer-core-and-best-gpu/#findComment-8269376
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, EUdict said:

Hey all,

 

  My wife has a '16 Razer Blade and she wants the Core.  I tried to talk her out of it but no go.  You want what you want right?  Anyway.... I'm 

trying to figure out the best card I can put in this thing that will get the best results with the bottlenecking that will occur.  I know this will work with a GTX 1080 but would it bottleneck it to bad and would I get a better back from a lower card.  Thanks for the help!

I've spent TONS of hours trying to answer exactly this question. I was hoping Linus' Core review would tackle it, but it didn't.

 

From other posts I've read, people have overclocked a 1080 inside their RB Core and STILL gotten a frame rate increase. So, it doesn't seem that there's a true bottleneck. However, there is some kind of performance penalty (likely from converting from PCI-E to TB) of around 15%.

 

So, you won't get desktop performance out of your GTX 1080, but you MAY get enough performance (depending of course on what resolution she's gaming at).

 

Here's a link to a Razer forum post where a user tested a 980 Ti on his desktop, a RB Stealth, and a RB 2016 at 1440p resolution and all the eye candy turned up.

https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/some-core-benchmarks-with-the-blade-14-and-stealth.14072/#post-249471

If you read through the thread, he eventually tested Doom with (originally without) the Vulcan patch. On the TB Stealth in particular, patches that move up to DirectX 11 and the Doom Vulcan patch seem to offload more of the 4-core CPU requirements out to the graphics card. The other running theme seems to be that the more work the GPU needs to do (more eye candy, higher resolution, etc), the closer the performance is to a desktop. When much higher frame rates are possible, the desktop continues to pull farther and farther away from the RB Core implementation.

 

I'd REALLY hoped Linus would address this in a video, but he seems done with his RB Core review, and only a brief mention of graphics at 1080p. 

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/641677-razer-core-and-best-gpu/#findComment-8271867
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, grit said:

I've spent TONS of hours trying to answer exactly this question. I was hoping Linus' Core review would tackle it, but it didn't.

 

From other posts I've read, people have overclocked a 1080 inside their RB Core and STILL gotten a frame rate increase. So, it doesn't seem that there's a true bottleneck. However, there is some kind of performance penalty (likely from converting from PCI-E to TB) of around 15%.

 

So, you won't get desktop performance out of your GTX 1080, but you MAY get enough performance (depending of course on what resolution she's gaming at).

 

Here's a link to a Razer forum post where a user tested a 980 Ti on his desktop, a RB Stealth, and a RB 2016 at 1440p resolution and all the eye candy turned up.

https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/some-core-benchmarks-with-the-blade-14-and-stealth.14072/#post-249471

If you read through the thread, he eventually tested Doom with (originally without) the Vulcan patch. On the TB Stealth in particular, patches that move up to DirectX 11 and the Doom Vulcan patch seem to offload more of the 4-core CPU requirements out to the graphics card. The other running theme seems to be that the more work the GPU needs to do (more eye candy, higher resolution, etc), the closer the performance is to a desktop. When much higher frame rates are possible, the desktop continues to pull farther and farther away from the RB Core implementation.

 

I'd REALLY hoped Linus would address this in a video, but he seems done with his RB Core review, and only a brief mention of graphics at 1080p. 

Dave Lee on YouTube did a great video comparing the core to the alienware proprietary connector and desktop. It also came out a decent time after the core's release compared to Linus' I thought we wouldn't see this summer... 

First build every: Intel Core i7 4790K, Asus Z97-A/USB 3.1 motherboard, Kingston HyperX FURY 1866 2x8 16GB Kit, Gigabyte Windforce GTX 970 G1 Gaming, Corsair Obsidian 450D Black ATX Mid Tower, Samsung 850 EVO 250GB & 3TB Toshiba HDD, EVGA SuperNOVA 750W G2, Corsair H100i GTX 240mm, Gigabyte Bluetooth 4.0/Wifi Card, Logitech G700S. Running on Windows 10

Surface Pro 3: i5 4300U with 8GB of ram and 256GB SSD. Running Windows 10 Pro

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/641677-razer-core-and-best-gpu/#findComment-8272438
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, she decided to go with the GTX 1070 for the cost savings. If possible she's 

planning on playing stuff at 1440 through her Acer Predator. I'm thinking there shouldn't be an issue but we shall see. Her Core says boxed right now on Razers site so shes pretty excited. 

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/641677-razer-core-and-best-gpu/#findComment-8273067
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×