Good buget Build?

[UnderFact]

I am trying to build a PC for Minecraft, Virtualbox, audio editing, and maybe a little video editing. I know the power supply is overkill, but it's cheaper than one of a lower capacity one. PCPartPicker link: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/FFz8M8 I Will be okay with onboard graphics until I have enough money for a GPU.

[NoRomanBatmansAllowed]

1 minute ago, UnderFact said:

I am trying to build a PC for Minecraft, Virtualbox, audio editing, and maybe a little video editing. I know the power supply is overkill, but it's cheaper than one of a lower capacity one. PCPartPicker link: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/FFz8M8 I Will be okay with onboard graphics until I have enough money for a GPU.

If you're gonna be running virtualBox often, I highly recommend a better CPU (graphics cards are also important,so get one ASAP).

 

Otherwise, I think that your system is good overall; you've got workable components and a good upgrade path.

[UnderFact]

Just now, bob51zhang said:

If you're gonna be running virtualBox often, I highly recommend a better CPU (graphics cards are also important,so get one ASAP).

 

Otherwise, I think that your system is good overall; you've got workable components and a good upgrade path.

I just need Virtualbox for running old versions of Windows, I can tell it wont be hard to run because an old PC with an athlon xp 3200+ and chipset graphics can run it.

[NoRomanBatmansAllowed]

4 minutes ago, UnderFact said:

I just need Virtualbox for running old versions of Windows, I can tell it wont be hard to run because an old PC with an athlon xp 3200+ and chipset graphics can run it.

Sorry, well then you'll be fine. I was thinking of worst case scenario e.g. running multiple copies of Windows 10

[Streetguru]

32 minutes ago, UnderFact said:

I am trying to build a PC for Minecraft, Virtualbox, audio editing, and maybe a little video editing. I know the power supply is overkill, but it's cheaper than one of a lower capacity one. PCPartPicker link: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/FFz8M8 I Will be okay with onboard graphics until I have enough money for a GPU.

If you need to do virtual machine work an FX 8 core is going to be pretty solid for you

Or are you just using some small simple programs in the VMs?

 

how much of the focus is on VM work?

 

My suggestion anyways if you need a more workstation type PC and don't want to go used

 

although I'd probably suggest you get a used GPU of some kind instead of the thing here which is really only good for outputting to a display

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/ckvwhq
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/ckvwhq/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8300 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970A-G/3.1 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard  ($73.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R5 220 1GB Core Edition Video Card  ($25.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  ($35.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $442.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-07 23:46 EDT-0400

[rn8686]

13 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

If you need to do virtual machine work an FX 8 core is going to be pretty solid for you

Or are you just using some small simple programs in the VMs?

 

how much of the focus is on VM work?

 

My suggestion anyways if you need a more workstation type PC and don't want to go used

 

although I'd probably suggest you get a used GPU of some kind instead of the thing here which is really only good for outputting to a display

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/ckvwhq
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/ckvwhq/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8300 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970A-G/3.1 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard  ($73.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R5 220 1GB Core Edition Video Card  ($25.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  ($35.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $442.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-07 23:46 EDT-0400

Although more cores are useful, OP has already stated the he would be fine with 4 for what he does. An i3 would be better here because it has an upgrade path to an i5 or even i7 when he has the money to do so. 

[UnderFact]

14 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

If you need to do virtual machine work an FX 8 core is going to be pretty solid for you

Or are you just using some small simple programs in the VMs?

 

how much of the focus is on VM work?

 

My suggestion anyways if you need a more workstation type PC and don't want to go used

 

although I'd probably suggest you get a used GPU of some kind instead of the thing here which is really only good for outputting to a display

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/ckvwhq
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/ckvwhq/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8300 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970A-G/3.1 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard  ($73.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R5 220 1GB Core Edition Video Card  ($25.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  ($35.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $442.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-07 23:46 EDT-0400

That build seems really nice, but as i am using this pc mainly for minecraft, would this build be good for that too?

[Streetguru]

7 minutes ago, rn8686 said:

Although more cores are useful, OP has already stated the he would be fine with 4 for what he does. An i3 would be better here because it has an upgrade path to an i5 or even i7 when he has the money to do so. 

VM shit, like it's the last thing AMD is good for, and how long would the upgrade take? because Zen might be out by then, or intel's new platform, which might end up with a motherboard upgrade anyways

 

guess you would need DDR4 as well, but then you have the 8 core to be a work horse secondary PC

 

6 minutes ago, UnderFact said:

That build seems really nice, but as i am using this pc mainly for minecraft, would this build be good for that too?

Minecraft is a pretty seemingly poorly optimized game I think, but it should be fine on nearly anything

 

I take it SEUS is some kind of graphical mod?

 

just look for more minecraft CPU benchmarks

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does minecraft really only use 1 thread? in any case, just about any intel CPU will be 40-50% faster in it, but in that video at least it seems to run fine on the FX chip

 

there's a mod to use more threads I guess, I knew it was built poorly, but I didn't think it was built that poorly

http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/1272953-optifine-hd-b6-fps-boost-dynamic-lights-shaders

[UnderFact]

this is becoming confusing, i dont need to do much vm work, so the i3 would be better? also,  isnt there that rx 460?

[UnderFact]

36 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

VM shit, like it's the last thing AMD is good for, and how long would the upgrade take? because Zen might be out by then, or intel's new platform, which might end up with a motherboard upgrade anyways

 

guess you would need DDR4 as well, but then you have the 8 core to be a work horse secondary PC

 

Minecraft is a pretty seemingly poorly optimized game I think, but it should be fine on nearly anything

 

I take it SEUS is some kind of graphical mod?

 

just look for more minecraft CPU benchmarks

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does minecraft really only use 1 thread? in any case, just about any intel CPU will be 40-50% faster in it, but in that video at least it seems to run fine on the FX chip

 

there's a mod to use more threads I guess, I knew it was built poorly, but I didn't think it was built that poorly

http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/1272953-optifine-hd-b6-fps-boost-dynamic-lights-shaders

yes SEUS is a shader pack, which adds things like shadows, and waving leaves, and optifine is a mod that enhances performance

[Streetguru]

11 minutes ago, UnderFact said:

yes SEUS is a shader pack, which adds things like shadows, and waving leaves, and optifine is a mod that enhances performance

He might have been using the multi-threaded mod in the video, but ya, should be fine overall and be way better for VM work

 

didn't answer what kind of VM work you do though

[UnderFact]

Oh ya, I am doing light VM work, but a pc that lets me do some more heavy VM work would be nice! Also, is that hard drive a good choice? As I am going to need to move around a lot large os files.

[NoRomanBatmansAllowed]

7 hours ago, UnderFact said:

Oh ya, I am doing light VM work, but a pc that lets me do some more heavy VM work would be nice! Also, is that hard drive a good choice? As I am going to need to move around a lot large os files.

Hard drive would be your best choice. This is because if you wanted 1TB (or any other significant size in storage), while SSDs would be faster, they cost a lot more than Hard Drives. As this is a budget build, I highly recommend Hard Drives.

 

Proof:

1TB SSDs: ~$300 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226596,

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147374

1TB Hard Drive: ~$70

             

 

[UnderFact]

15 hours ago, bob51zhang said:

Hard drive would be your best choice. This is because if you wanted 1TB (or any other significant size in storage), while SSDs would be faster, they cost a lot more than Hard Drives. As this is a budget build, I highly recommend Hard Drives.

 

Proof:

1TB SSDs: ~$300 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226596,

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147374

1TB Hard Drive: ~$70

             

 

okay, ill work on it, i probably want to get a 460, but i need to see some good benchmarks.

[6thGen]

On 8/7/2016 at 8:14 PM, UnderFact said:

I am trying to build a PC for Minecraft, Virtualbox, audio editing, and maybe a little video editing. I know the power supply is overkill, but it's cheaper than one of a lower capacity one. PCPartPicker link: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/FFz8M8 I Will be okay with onboard graphics until I have enough money for a GPU.

you might want to invest in a slightly better MoBo, for as graphics cards tend to sag A bit on that one.

[NoRomanBatmansAllowed]

9 hours ago, 6thGen said:

you might want to invest in a slightly better MoBo, for as graphics cards tend to sag A bit on that one.

Use fishing line to hold it up (think budget)