Under $500 Build?

[Dubesta11]

So this is a build including a trip to microcenter and getting a CPU/Motherboard combo. It would be a long drive (over 2 hours drive, 2 hours back) and I would have to leave a little early from work. Do you think this would be worth it?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320E 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor  ($100.00) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG M9a 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($20.00) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($32.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($35.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($92.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $456.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-28 07:01 EDT-0400

[ArmswieldTheHero]

No, the fx wont perform as good as the I3 in games, if you're looking to do rendering than yes, maybe.

[Herman Mcpootis]

the 8320E will be better than an i3, but absolutely no upgrade path whatsoever. i'd go with an i3 or an i5 instead. 

[ArmswieldTheHero]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

the 8320E will be better than an i3, but absolutely no upgrade path whatsoever. i'd go with an i3 or an i5 instead. 

Not in games, you are completely incorrect.

[thebrownieguy]

If i were you i'd spend just a little more on the gpu. You als don't have a pc that you can upgrade later on in terms of cpu power. I'd say go intel, and get like an entry level i3 (or maybe an entry level i5)

[thebrownieguy]

7 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

the 8320E will be better than an i3, but absolutely no upgrade path whatsoever. i'd go with an i3 or an i5 instead. 

I looked up some benchmarks and in most games the i3 6100 will outperform the 8 core amd cpu's.

[ArmswieldTheHero]

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/V34Zf8

I do realise that this is a little over 500, and that it doesnt have windows, but you'll just have to save up longer for windows and use linux in the meantime, otherwise I dont think you can get very good performance in games. However, if you arent thinking about gaming then you could actually go a little cheaper on the parts.

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, ArmswieldTheHero said:

Not in games, you are completely incorrect.

4 minutes ago, thebrownieguy said:

I looked up some benchmarks and in most games the i3 6100 will outperform the 8 core amd cpu's.

the fx 8300 is better in DX12 rise of the tomb raider, cities skylines, GTA 5 and dying light while the i3 wins in DX11 rise of the tomb raider and COD:BO3.

 

 

[ArmswieldTheHero]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

the fx 8300 is better in DX12 rise of the tomb raider, cities skylines, GTA 5 and dying light while the i3 wins in DX11 rise of the tomb raider and COD:BO3.

-snip-

 

And dont forget about those games with no optimization, Dark Souls barely runs at all on the AMD fx 8350 Dolphin barely runs on the fx 8350, and also, most games will run better on the I3, you just chose the select few that actually dont.

[Dubesta11]

18 minutes ago, ArmswieldTheHero said:

No, the fx wont perform as good as the I3 in games, if you're looking to do rendering than yes, maybe.

An i3 build would cost around 50 dollars more, which is out of the 500 dollar strict client budget. It would be mainly for light gaming and mostly office work.

 

14 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

the 8320E will be better than an i3, but absolutely no upgrade path whatsoever. i'd go with an i3 or an i5 instead. 

The client does not want to upgrade for a while, so a locked upgrade path is fine.

 

12 minutes ago, thebrownieguy said:

If i were you i'd spend just a little more on the gpu. You als don't have a pc that you can upgrade later on in terms of cpu power. I'd say go intel, and get like an entry level i3 (or maybe an entry level i5)

 

Like I said, an i3 is definitely out of budget unless I can buy one for 70 dollars.

 

10 minutes ago, ArmswieldTheHero said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/V34Zf8

I do realise that this is a little over 500, and that it doesnt have windows, but you'll just have to save up longer for windows and use linux in the meantime, otherwise I dont think you can get very good performance in games. However, if you arent thinking about gaming then you could actually go a little cheaper on the parts.

 

This is way over budget lol. I have 500 dollars of cash from my client to spend, not a cent more.

[Herman Mcpootis]

46 minutes ago, Dubesta11 said:

 

i'd recommend you get this and prepare an upgrade to an i5 instead. get your OS from reddit for $20-30.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($47.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($30.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($27.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $465.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-28 07:53 EDT-0400

[ArmswieldTheHero]

Just now, Dubesta11 said:

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This is way over budget lol. I have 500 dollars of cash from my client to spend, not a cent more.

Well I'm guessing he wont be doing much gaming then, the original build is fine.

[Dubesta11]

Just now, herman mcpootis said:

i'd recommend you get this and prepare an upgrade to an i5 instead.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($47.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($30.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($27.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $465.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-28 07:53 EDT-0400

With the windows licence, it would be over 550 dollars, way over budget. There will be no parts upgraded for the life of this computer.

[Dubesta11]

Just now, ArmswieldTheHero said:

Well I'm guessing he wont be doing much gaming then, the original build is fine.

He is going to be doing moderate gaming, but he understands the performance for the price. I'm looking to maximize performance for the 500 dollars I can spend on it.

[ArmswieldTheHero]

Just now, Dubesta11 said:

He is going to be doing moderate gaming, but he understands the performance for the price. I'm looking to maximize performance for the 500 dollars I can spend on it.

You can get a 30 dollar discount on microcenter if you bundle the mobo with the I3, and overall it'll be about the same price, and better performance in most games.

[Herman Mcpootis]

7 minutes ago, Dubesta11 said:

With the windows licence, it would be over 550 dollars, way over budget. There will be no parts upgraded for the life of this computer.

get your OS from reddit for $20-30.

[Dubesta11]

Just now, herman mcpootis said:

get your OS from reddit for $20-30.

Those are grey market keys that I can't sell to a customer. I am required to buy a physical media and give them the disk/key.

[ArmswieldTheHero]

Just now, herman mcpootis said:

get your OS from reddit for $20-30.

I wouldnt recommend this if you're making it for somebody else, something could go wrong and you'd have an unhappy customer.

[Dubesta11]

17 minutes ago, ArmswieldTheHero said:

You can get a 30 dollar discount on microcenter if you bundle the mobo with the I3, and overall it'll be about the same price, and better performance in most games.

AMD combo is $110, and Intel combo is $150. FX 6300 and i3's are closely similar for basic performance, and each share blows in games.

 

EDIT: I can remove the AMD aftermarket cooler if I get an i3, reducing the price to the same:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($110.00) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($35.00) 
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($30.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($35.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($92.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $459.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-28 08:15 EDT-0400

[ArmswieldTheHero]

Yea that will work

2 hours ago, Dubesta11 said:

AMD combo is $110, and Intel combo is $150. FX 6300 and i3's are closely similar for basic performance, and each share blows in games.

 

EDIT: I can remove the AMD aftermarket cooler if I get an i3, reducing the price to the same:

-snip-

Yes that looks good to me, you dont really need an aftermarket cooler on an I3 since you cant overclock it.

[Dubesta11]

26 minutes ago, ArmswieldTheHero said:

Yea that will work

Yes that looks good to me, you don't really need an aftermarket cooler on an i3 since you cant overclock it.

Exactly, and stock Intel coolers work great.