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That wouldn't be 'future proofing' really though. If you wanted to do that I'd would say pick up an I5 6500 with a Z107 board so that you can upgrade to a 6600k or 6700k in the future, and even Kaby Lake.

CPUs and GPUs are never really 'future proof' but that's the best you'll be able to do.

I own a fx 6300 with  212 evo as cooler on an asrock motherboard.

I recently came in to some extra money and thought about upgrading my motherboard and cpu to an intel one.

Maybe i5 4690 with a random cheap compatible motherboard?

 

For now I mostly play Overwatch on 1080p 60hz which I can play with some maxed settings 80+ fps.

I also like steam single player games and other random games.

I used to be a LoL player which may make me go there and play once in a blue moon.

 

Is it worth upgrading just for the sake of future proofing (and some sweet eye candy)?

 

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Edit:
I have ca 6k SeK which equals to around 600 euros (without looking at a converter).
I am willing to use 60% up to 90% of it.

 

I also used to play Payday 2 for a while which I might play again.
I think an intel cpu might help me there.
But it is playable too :)

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Rule of thumb is upgrade when your computer no longer does what you want it to, that way you don't waste additional money.

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That wouldn't be 'future proofing' really though. If you wanted to do that I'd would say pick up an I5 6500 with a Z107 board so that you can upgrade to a 6600k or 6700k in the future, and even Kaby Lake.

CPUs and GPUs are never really 'future proof' but that's the best you'll be able to do.

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You wouldn't be future-proofing. You'd be upgrading to a more current generation of hardware. I'd honestly wait until you can afford to move to a skylake build. If you're going to go to a more current architecture you may as well go to the newest, right?

 

EDIT: This coming from someone running a 6350@stock clocks and an R9-280X. I see about +10 FPS in GTAV by overclocking to 4.4 or 4.5GHZ

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6 minutes ago, Sir Reginald said:

You wouldn't be future-proofing. You'd be upgrading to a more current generation of hardware. I'd honestly wait until you can afford to move to a skylake build. If you're going to go to a more current architecture you may as well go to the newest, right?

 

EDIT: This coming from someone running a 6350@stock clocks and an R9-280X. I see about +10 FPS in GTAV by overclocking to 4.4 or 4.5GHZ

Is the "skylake build" (I am not sure what you mean with this) more expensive and why is it worth it?

6 minutes ago, Moress said:

That wouldn't be 'future proofing' really though. If you wanted to do that I'd would say pick up an I5 6500 with a Z107 board so that you can upgrade to a 6600k or 6700k in the future, and even Kaby Lake.

CPUs and GPUs are never really 'future proof' but that's the best you'll be able to do.

I know, I don't like the word combination "future proof".

What's the difference between i5 4690 and the newer generation ones.

Is it not good anymore? o.O

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Just now, c0d0ps said:

Is the "skylake build" (I am not sure what you mean with this) more expensive and why is it worth it?

I know, I don't like the word combination "future proof".

What's the difference between i5 4690 and the newer generation ones.

Is it not good anymore? o.O

The 4690 is a fine CPU today, and will be for a little while still. But its on a dead line, if you're going to buy a new CPU and Mobo I'd say go for a Skylake build.

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Skylake is a bit more expensive to build but it is a more current generation. You also get the benefit of DDR4 instead of DDR3. My opinion is simply "Why upgrade to older hardware when, with a bit of saving, you can get the newest and fastest variant".

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13 minutes ago, Moress said:

The 4690 is a fine CPU today, and will be for a little while still. But its on a dead line, if you're going to buy a new CPU and Mobo I'd say go for a Skylake build.

 

10 minutes ago, Sir Reginald said:

Skylake is a bit more expensive to build but it is a more current generation. You also get the benefit of DDR4 instead of DDR3. My opinion is simply "Why upgrade to older hardware when, with a bit of saving, you can get the newest and fastest variant".

Do you know how much more expensive it is compared to i5 4690+ mobo.
And what do I get for the increased price?

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28 minutes ago, Sir Reginald said:

You wouldn't be future-proofing. You'd be upgrading to a more current generation of hardware. I'd honestly wait until you can afford to move to a skylake build. If you're going to go to a more current architecture you may as well go to the newest, right?

 

EDIT: This coming from someone running a 6350@stock clocks and an R9-280X. I see about +10 FPS in GTAV by overclocking to 4.4 or 4.5GHZ

I can't overclock with my current motherboard, sadly :'(

19 minutes ago, Moress said:

The 4690 is a fine CPU today, and will be for a little while still. But its on a dead line,

What will/might happen?

Old cpus like the 3000 series from intel, seems to live for a long time.

 

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1 minute ago, c0d0ps said:

 

Do you know how much more expensive it is compared to i5 4690+ mobo.
And what do I get for the increased price?

 

Skylake Build - $334

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/8pQRjX

 

Haswell - $279

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/XzZG23

 

These will perform about the same, but the Skylake build will let you upgrade much further in the future (IF Kabylake is on the same socket). You could also opt for the I3-6100 which would make the build less expensive than the Haswell, but would be a bit of a hinderance performance wise, but would save money towards a 6600k asap.

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7 minutes ago, c0d0ps said:

I can't overclock with my current motherboard, sadly :'(

What will/might happen?

Old cpus like the 3000 series from intel, seems to live for a long time.

 

Well this depends on what other parts you have and the resolution you run at.


For the GTX 1070 and 1080 the older CPUs are already too slow to use their full potential at 1080p, but are fine at 1440/4k


Id assume this would mean the older CPUs will be too weak for a majority of the GTX 11 line, and all of the 12. At 1080p and even 1440p.

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3 hours ago, Moress said:

Well this depends on what other parts you have and the resolution you run at.


For the GTX 1070 and 1080 the older CPUs are already too slow to use their full potential at 1080p, but are fine at 1440/4k


Id assume this would mean the older CPUs will be too weak for a majority of the GTX 11 line, and all of the 12. At 1080p and even 1440p.

I play on a 1080p 60hz screen and the rest of my build is in my signature:)

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4 hours ago, c0d0ps said:

I play on a 1080p 60hz screen and the rest of my build is in my signature:)

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Well we're talking about 'future proofing' thus I'm talking about future possibilities.

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