Sending back items on amazon

[xLee]

I would like to know, will there be a full chargeback after I've tested the cpu I bought from them (amazon.de) and in case that I didn't like the performance, sent it back? 

 

[aisle9]

11 minutes ago, xLee said:

I would like to know, will there be a full chargeback after I've tested the cpu I bought from them (amazon.de) and in case that I didn't like the performance, sent it back? 

 

Do you have Prime? Over here in the States, if you have Prime and return it saying that it's defective, they just give you your money back without question.

[xLee]

1 minute ago, aisle9 said:

Do you have Prime? Over here in the States, if you have Prime and return it saying that it's defective, they just give you your money back without question.

No I live in Belgium, prime doesn't work for us.

[dalekphalm]

7 hours ago, xLee said:

I would like to know, will there be a full chargeback after I've tested the cpu I bought from them (amazon.de) and in case that I didn't like the performance, sent it back? 

 

Assuming the CPU works fine, but simply doesn't OC to your liking (Since I'm assuming that's what you're doing - trying to beat the Silicon Lottery), then it is possible (but unlikely) that they will not accept the return of the item. You will probably have to pay return shipping at the very least.

 

If you're looking for a CPU that can OC to a specific point, I might suggest buying used on the forums (You can make a post for WTB - Want To Buy - and put the specifics of the CPU you want, how high it OC's, and at what voltage) - or check out those online retailers that validate OC levels on chips - be prepared to pay extra for a good OC though.

 

In any case, I personally frown upon sending back a CPU simply because it doesn't OC as high as you'd like. You're taking advantage of the seller, making them eat the costs of shipping for a product that works totally fine.

 

HOWEVER, if you're taking about returning a straight up defective CPU, that's no problem. They'll take it back and give you a full refund or exchange. You can usually get them to pay for shipping for the return as well.

[xLee]

6 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

Assuming the CPU works fine, but simply doesn't OC to your liking (Since I'm assuming that's what you're doing - trying to beat the Silicon Lottery), then it is possible (but unlikely) that they will not accept the return of the item. You will probably have to pay return shipping at the very least.

 

If you're looking for a CPU that can OC to a specific point, I might suggest buying used on the forums (You can make a post for WTB - Want To Buy - and put the specifics of the CPU you want, how high it OC's, and at what voltage) - or check out those online retailers that validate OC levels on chips - be prepared to pay extra for a good OC though.

 

In any case, I personally frown upon sending back a CPU simply because it doesn't OC as high as you'd like. You're taking advantage of the seller, making them eat the costs of shipping for a product that works totally fine.

 

HOWEVER, if you're taking about returning a straight up defective CPU, that's no problem. They'll take it back and give you a full refund or exchange. You can usually get them to pay for shipping for the return as well.

I will explain my situation a little bit more... So I ordered the i5-6600k, and with that, a gtx1070... After browsing some forums and even opening a new thread about whether my cpu will get bottlenecked by my gpu. And many people said that it would be the case in some games (open world games) and that I will notice stuttering every once in a while. In this case they said that an i7-6700 would run a lot smoother and come close to a perfect experience in games. I am using a benq xl2411z which is 144hz and 1080p. Some of them said that I should just oc my i5 to the maximum to get as less stuttering on those open world games as possible. So yeah, now I'm thinking whether i should just test my rig and oc my cpu etc. Or just send my cpu back to Amazon.de in change for an i7-6700(k).

Thats about it.

[dalekphalm]

2 hours ago, xLee said:

I will explain my situation a little bit more... So I ordered the i5-6600k, and with that, a gtx1070... After browsing some forums and even opening a new thread about whether my cpu will get bottlenecked by my gpu. And many people said that it would be the case in some games (open world games) and that I will notice stuttering every once in a while. In this case they said that an i7-6700 would run a lot smoother and come close to a perfect experience in games. I am using a benq xl2411z which is 144hz and 1080p. Some of them said that I should just oc my i5 to the maximum to get as less stuttering on those open world games as possible. So yeah, now I'm thinking whether i should just test my rig and oc my cpu etc. Or just send my cpu back to Amazon.de in change for an i7-6700(k).

Thats about it.

Hmm, well there are several factors to look at.

 

1. 1080p - relatively easy to drive

2. 144 Hz - you might not get stable 144 fps in all games. You're gonna see jumps all over the place.

3. GTX 1070 - this card, despite its placement, is still a beast. You're looking at GTX 980 performance or higher. Somewhere between a 980 and 980 Ti I believe

4. The i5-6600K is still a very capable CPU. You don't NEED the i7. In most games, I'd wager you wouldn't even see a difference. In the games that do see a difference, will you experience stuttering? I personally do not believe so. The i5-6600K + GTX 1070 should be more than enough to keep your minimum framerate well above 60 FPS at 1080p. In many games, you'll get to 144 Hz as your max framerate, but there will be plenty of variability in there.

 

So what will you experience? Tearing, probably. Especially if the FPS is jumping all over the place. But tearing and stuttering are two totally different things. Stuttering is usually caused by bad frame times (most noticeable in SLI/CF), and by FPS temporarily jumping too low below 60 FPS. Using V-Sync will elimate any stuttering and tearing, but honestly, I doubt it'll be that big of a deal.

 

In the vast majority of cases, the i5 is still sufficient for gaming, and the i7 generally offers little improvement. There are some games that will use the additional power of an i7, but honestly, even in those games, you won't see some magical massive improvement.

 

I would get the parts, test everything out, and decide for yourself if the performance is acceptable, but unless you're doing other things (Video Editing/Rendering, 3D Modelling, transcoding video, folding, etc) that will utilize the extra virtual cores via Hyper Threading, I would not bother with an i7.

[xLee]

1 hour ago, dalekphalm said:

Hmm, well there are several factors to look at.

 

1. 1080p - relatively easy to drive

2. 144 Hz - you might not get stable 144 fps in all games. You're gonna see jumps all over the place.

3. GTX 1070 - this card, despite its placement, is still a beast. You're looking at GTX 980 performance or higher. Somewhere between a 980 and 980 Ti I believe

4. The i5-6600K is still a very capable CPU. You don't NEED the i7. In most games, I'd wager you wouldn't even see a difference. In the games that do see a difference, will you experience stuttering? I personally do not believe so. The i5-6600K + GTX 1070 should be more than enough to keep your minimum framerate well above 60 FPS at 1080p. In many games, you'll get to 144 Hz as your max framerate, but there will be plenty of variability in there.

 

So what will you experience? Tearing, probably. Especially if the FPS is jumping all over the place. But tearing and stuttering are two totally different things. Stuttering is usually caused by bad frame times (most noticeable in SLI/CF), and by FPS temporarily jumping too low below 60 FPS. Using V-Sync will elimate any stuttering and tearing, but honestly, I doubt it'll be that big of a deal.

 

In the vast majority of cases, the i5 is still sufficient for gaming, and the i7 generally offers little improvement. There are some games that will use the additional power of an i7, but honestly, even in those games, you won't see some magical massive improvement.

 

I would get the parts, test everything out, and decide for yourself if the performance is acceptable, but unless you're doing other things (Video Editing/Rendering, 3D Modelling, transcoding video, folding, etc) that will utilize the extra virtual cores via Hyper Threading, I would not bother with an i7.

And what will actually cause the tearing that you mention? The fact that my cpu is a bit too weak for the gtx1070? Or?