[New Build] Advice Needed!

[GundamExia]

This is my first time building a computer so all of your suggestions are much appreciated.

Build Here: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/7zJkTH

Please point out any flaws or if you have any suggestions! I will keep track of this thread and give "Best Answer" accordingly.
It would also be nice you can list out the Pros and Cons of this build. 
Thanks! And Have A Nice Day!

[HPWebcamAble]

Looks pretty good, I assume you know you can't overclock your CPU, but your MOBO does support overclocking (since it's a Z170 chipset). That means you could upgrade to a 'k' CPU in the future.

 

Not sure about that SSD quality though.

[EunSoo]

whats your budget?

[Zyndo]

What is the purpose of this build? gaming? workstation? what resolution of monitor are you using? what is your budget as well as currency. I could give pros and cons on your build as well as suggest replacement or alternate parts if needed

[GundamExia]

1 hour ago, HPWebcamAble said:

Looks pretty good, I assume you know you can't overclock your CPU, but your MOBO does support overclocking (since it's a Z170 chipset). That means you could upgrade to a 'k' CPU in the future.

 

Not sure about that SSD quality though.

The intention of having a Z170 motherboard is to maybe overclock the Non-K chip since the MOBO can be found on here:

http://overclocking.guide/gigabyte-z170-non-k-overclocking-guide/ 

And like you said, I will have a better upgrade path with a Z170 MOBO. As for the SSD, I did some research and saw that it performed very well compared to some of the more mainstream SSDs for a fairly low price. But yeah, the SSD is pretty underrated.

[GundamExia]

1 hour ago, SCGazelle said:

whats your budget?

Around $500-600

Edit: Maybe $650

[GundamExia]

1 hour ago, Zyndo said:

What is the purpose of this build? gaming? workstation? what resolution of monitor are you using? what is your budget as well as currency. I could give pros and cons on your build as well as suggest replacement or alternate parts if needed

I am just building this computer as an all around machine, I do some gaming some work. My budget is $500-600(excluding the GPU and Case) and if I have to, $650. 

[GundamExia]

Thanks for all of your help guys! I didn't expect so many kind people to assist me on my first time journey.

[Zyndo]

Pros:

 

CPU: Excellent choice for gaming. This is a go-to chip for many gamers around the world nowadays. It should be able to run pretty much any game you throw at it with reasonable ease.

CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 EVO is renowned for its price-performance-noise ratio

Motherboard: Even though you don't have an overclockable chip, that doesn't mean its "wrong" to get an overclockable board. Some Z170 boards come with additional features over their H170 counterparts that make them Ideal (Such as SLI compatibility)

Memory: Ram is Ram. G.skill has made RAM for a while now and its good stuff. 16GB is also an excellent choice. You should have no issues on this front.

Storage: WD Blue drive is an excellent choice. I've never heard of that SSD or that company before though. That doesn't necessarily mean that its bad. If you've done your research, and you believe it to be good, then it very well may be.

GPU: The 780 is a bit of an older card, but it still can hold its own against modern games at lower resolutions. You could probably play many games at 1080 with high settings with minimal issues.

Case: These are entirely a personal choice, so I have no good input on the matter.

PSU: Solid PSU. You should never have any issues with this.

 

Cons:

These are few and far between. you have a pretty good build here.

CPU cooler: With your CPU, you don't need an aftermarket cooler. That doesn't mean its a bad idea to get one, but you could save your money if you didn't want to spend it. The Intel stock cooler is enough for a 6500 if you so desired.

Motherboard: You got a Z series motherboard and a CPU that cannot be overclocked. Unless the Z170 board you chose comes with some very specific feature for why you chose it, you could easily save yourself a bunch of money on your motherboard choice by going to a H170 board or a B150 board.

Storage: I've never heard of that SSD or brand before. Again, that doesn't necessarily mean its bad, but there's no reason to risk it when there are many other good options out there in that price range (such as A-Data)

GPU: as mentioned before, its a bit on the older side. There is certainly nothing "wrong" with it, but there are much more powerful options out there nowadays. (although if i had to guess it looks like you're reusing that card from an old build, so that's totally fine too)

 

 

The only two things I could really recommend changing would be the motherboard to a H170 board, and the SSD to something a little more mainstream. But assuming you've done your homework theres certainly no reason you NEED to make those changes. Good build all around =)

[GundamExia]

@Zyndo Wow! Thanks for all of your suggestions. The reason for a Z170 motherboard and a aftermarket cooler was so that I could OC my Non-K I5 6500. And I didn't really want to get a i5 6600k since my old GPU GTX 780 would probably bottleneck it. And I would also have to get pretty good cooling for a i5 6600k. What do you think? Should I stick with a Z170 motherboard and do a Non-K OC or get a H170 or B170 MOBO? PS:I don't plan on upgrading within 4-5 years.

Here is the Non-K OC guide: http://overclocking.guide/intel-skylake-non-k-overclocking-bios-list/

And here is another build I created, should I go with this one instead? http://pcpartpicker.com/list/FFmCyf

I appreciate all of your assistance.

[Zyndo]

I highly recommend avoiding overclocking non-K processors. There are good reasons Intel doesn't want people to overclock non-K chips (other than the higher pricetags on their K chips). Plus, If you're going to be running a 780 in your system, that will be more of a limiting factor for what your computer can do than a i5 6500. The actual performance gain from overclocking it would be minimal (we're talking a couple fps here)

 

In short, if you want to overclock, get a K chip and Z170 board. The actual method for overclocking on k chips is much easier than BCLK overclocking on non-K chips. its much safer to do, and typically more stable.

 

If you want to overclock your CPU because you just want to play with it, then thats fine. go ahead. If you want to overclock yoru CPU because you want your games to run better, then it doesn't make a ton of sense. MOST games out there do not gain a TON of fps from processor strength past a certain point. and you are already past that point with an i5 6500.

[GundamExia]

@Zyndo From what I understand, you are saying that the GTX 780 will be a bottle neck? So should I go with a i5 6400 instead of a i5 6500? And yes, I just want to play around with overclocking since the concept is pretty interesting and seems kind of fun. And just for that reason, should I go with a AMD build?

Like this one I made here?http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pjwyf8 <----AMD build

Honestly after digging around the web, I don't think that I will be dumping more money for a Z170 and a aftermarket cooler just to over clock a Non-K chip. So I believe my options right now are to go with a i5 6500/6400 and not over clock and save some money on the Z170 MOBO and the cooler, or use to AMD build and experiment with overclock.( I don't want to start an argument, but I did some research and saw that a overclocked FX 8320 can match the performance level of a i5 Non-K chip in SOME categories. But then again, i could be wrong) btw I am probably going to choose you as best answer once this thread is done

And please keep in mind that I wouldn't be upgrading anytime soon.

[Zyndo]

I honestly do not know that much about AMD CPU's (much to my embarrassment). Not that I'm an Intel fanboy or anything, I've just never looked that hard into AMD since their CPU's have been relatively lackluster recently (or so I've heard) Nothing wrong with an AMD build though (except that you apparently will be using DDR3, instead of DDR4) If you've done your research and its the CPU you want, by all means go for it.

 

6400's lower clock speeds and relative price to the 6500 don't really make it a good investment price-performance. But you should be fine with that if you really need to pinch your money. One thing to note, is that its quite likely that at least kaby lake (and maybe cannonlake) the next CPU's that intel is releasing are rumored to also be running on LGA 1151, which means that if you go skylake 6500 now. in 3-5 years when you need to upgrade there are going to be some cheap kabylake/cannonlake's on the market that will probably be compatible with whatever 100 series board you end up using. (I make no guarentees on that claim, but thats currently how its shaping up)