Fm2+ temp issues

[NoVxture]

I have an issue my x4 860k has a weird temp reading. My thermal margins are above 50C at idle and above 35C at 100 percent load with turbo boost in AMD overdrive. However the bios reads a 50 C idle. and HW reads 50C idle. Although at load it reads 100C to 225C. I know this isn't possible. I have it water cooled for extreme overclocking but I don't want to ruin it not knowing the true temps. I've seen many people post about this about every FM2 or FM2+ CPU. Is this just a APU/Athlon thing?

[m0k]

what do you mean by thermal margins?

[m0k]

My parents pc has an amd a10-6700
I monitor its temps using HWinfo64. and it shows at least 3 random temps claiming to be CPU temps,

 

I think the way these amd boards and chipsets communicate with windows isnt very clear. However I was able to double check which of the 3 temps was the right one by using Ai Suite which came preinstalled with the pc. 

I suggest you install as many "hardware monitors" as needed till you find the correct/common temps across all your software monitors. even MSI afterburner can report CPU temps
 

[JefferyD90]

27 minutes ago, NoVxture said:

I have an issue my x4 860k has a weird temp reading. My thermal margins are above 50C at idle and above 35C at 100 percent load with turbo boost in AMD overdrive. However the bios reads a 50 C idle. and HW reads 50C idle. Although at load it reads 100C to 225C. I know this isn't possible. I have it water cooled for extreme overclocking but I don't want to ruin it not knowing the true temps. I've seen many people post about this about every FM2 or FM2+ CPU. Is this just a APU/Athlon thing?

I can promise you that chip cant handle 100C or 225C.  So I don't know what programs you're using to get your data from, but it sounds kinda like a awful program.

 

Additionally, AMD's "Overdrive" program doesn't read thermals the same way that other programs do, AND it is really reading not the actual temperature as much as the "projected/virtual" temperature, so that way it can pick the right clock speeds and voltages.

[JefferyD90]

8 minutes ago, mok said:

My parents pc has an amd a10-6700
I monitor its temps using HWinfo64. and it shows at least 3 random temps claiming to be CPU temps,

 

I think the way these amd boards and chipsets communicate with windows isnt very clear. However I was able to double check which of the 3 temps was the right one by using Ai Suite which came preinstalled with the pc. 

I suggest you install as many "hardware monitors" as needed till you find the correct/common temps across all your software monitors. even MSI afterburner can report CPU temps
 

See my previous post.

 

But you did hit on something, you should be using your manufactures tools to monitor temps and voltages.  ASUS's AISuite is a great example.  But, just installing a bunch of random ones isn't a solution as it will just give you a bunch of jargon.  Use the tools that come with the machine and that will give you the BEST solution.

[m0k]

9 hours ago, JefferyD90 said:

See my previous post.

 

But you did hit on something, you should be using your manufactures tools to monitor temps and voltages.  ASUS's AISuite is a great example.  But, just installing a bunch of random ones isn't a solution as it will just give you a bunch of jargon.  Use the tools that come with the machine and that will give you the BEST solution.

yes but not all manufacturers include monitoring software 

and not all 3rd party ones are able to accurately display all the info so i meant to use this tactic just as a process of elimination

 

There are some notable 3rd party software that are often recommended (HWmonitor, HWinfo, MSI Afterburner)
I didnt mean for people to install any sketchy ones

[JefferyD90]

2 hours ago, mok said:

yes but not all manufacturers include monitoring software 

and not all 3rd party ones are able to accurately display all the info so i meant to use this tactic just as a process of elimination

 

There are some notable 3rd party software that are often recommended (HWmonitor, HWinfo, MSI Afterburner)
I didnt mean for people to install any sketchy ones

I'd like to know what manufactures don't include these tools?  (other than OEM's)

 

But my question to you is which ones should be eliminated?  This is wreckless advising because of 2 reasons, first a newer user might decide that they like Program X because it gives a lower reading even though it is inaccurate.  This could cause serious harm down the line.  The second reason why this is ill-advised is because third party software often times causes conflicts with other first party software that offers more functionality.

 

For example, I know that you mentioned MSI Afterburner, it actually causes a conflict with AI Suite II which prevents AI Suite from monitoring the fan curve.  What happens is your CPU fan will "lock in" at a RPM and it simply wont increase or decrease according to the CPU load.

[NoVxture]

I started using gigabytes software it seems to be the most accurate since I have a gigabyte mobo