Water cooling?

[IBIubbleTea]

Hi.

 

I was thinking about doing water cooling on my new computer build but I don't know what kind of radiators to get? This is what I got so far...

Planning build. 

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1IIg0

Some of the parts are over kill but they look good Should have gotten a 780 or something.. Hope I can Overclock my 770 to something good.

The case I'm planning on getting is the new Corsair 750D.  I want a clean looking case for a red and black colour scheme with white sleeved cables with red leds like this one. https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/44526-august-10th-overkill-buyers-guide-where-to-buy-components/

 

I don't know so I'm guessing I would go with this radiator with Corsair SP120 PWM High Performance for the top.

http://www.aquatuning.us/product_info.php/info/p12340_Alphacool-NexXxoS-XT45-Full-Copper-360mm.html

For me to change the speed of the fan, I'm going to use the motherboards fan controlling software.

I have chosen the Corsair SP120 PWM High Performance because of the looks, I heard they have pretty decent airflow so.. why not?

 

Now I'm stuck. Should I get a 2x140 or 2x120 radiator for the front or 2x120 for the bottom? And what about thickness of the radiator, even for the the 3x120 radiator, its 45mm? Not sure...

Pump, reservoirs, tubing, fittings, cpu and gpu block... mmmhm

For the cpu block I'm guess the Koolance 380i, If there are better, Please suggest!

The GPU block is harder to find because its not a reference card  

For tubing.. I want to get the red tubing like the other build. "Copied and Pasted"

Reservoirs.. Might look into that when more people own the case for water cooling... lol this might take a while.

Pump, same thing. 

If you want to suggest something, please do and if you think I missed anything, tell me!

 

Thanks.

 

[airdeano]

generally, you'll wanna start here and here for a good dose of what is needed.

 

to start you out:

CPU block: aesthetics mainly, all perform within margin of error (0°-3°)

GPU block: aesthetics mainly, all perform within margin of error (0°-3°)

Radiator config to support CPU/GPU would be a 360x 60 radiator, if the 60mm is

an issue, then can look to 30-45mm, but fan rpm will usually have to be raise

(louder) to compensate for the temperature increase.

tubing: aesthetics mainly, depends on "color" and use of color coolants 

reservoir: would be again aesthetics of placement in case.

pump: laing D5 variants or DDC variants

 

your fans can be controlled from the motherboard through the included fan expert

software or can be statically controlled just with simple voltage from PSU.

 

yes you got snookered on the GPU block issue, sell card and purchase reference

PCB for block compatibility.

 

airdeano

[IBIubbleTea]

generally, you'll wanna start here and here for a good dose of what is needed.

 

to start you out:

CPU block: aesthetics mainly, all perform within margin of error (0°-3°)

GPU block: aesthetics mainly, all perform within margin of error (0°-3°)

Radiator config to support CPU/GPU would be a 360x 60 radiator, if the 60mm is

an issue, then can look to 30-45mm, but fan rpm will usually have to be raise

(louder) to compensate for the temperature increase.

tubing: aesthetics mainly, depends on "color" and use of color coolants 

reservoir: would be again aesthetics of placement in case.

pump: laing D5 variants or DDC variants

 

your fans can be controlled from the motherboard through the included fan expert

software or can be statically controlled just with simple voltage from PSU.

 

yes you got snookered on the GPU block issue, sell card and purchase reference

PCB for block compatibility.

 

airdeano

Why not get 2 radiators? 2 45mm? 

[airdeano]

Why not get 2 radiators? 2 45mm? 

 

you can try it, but from my experience on overclocking CPU/GPU loops, the thinner

rads do well, but again, would depend on your tolerance of fan noise under loaded

situations (pretty much why going to water cooling in the first place) how well they

will do in your configuration.

depending on layout, fan choice, hardware and OC skills, the temps can be from

80°-40° loaded. if you really get a chance, review those guides on water cooling.

 

airdeano

[IBIubbleTea]

you can try it, but from my experience on overclocking CPU/GPU loops, the thinner

rads do well, but again, would depend on your tolerance of fan noise under loaded

situations (pretty much why going to water cooling in the first place) how well they

will do in your configuration.

depending on layout, fan choice, hardware and OC skills, the temps can be from

80°-40° loaded. if you really get a chance, review those guides on water cooling.

 

airdeano

I think I don't get is this.

The loop.

Rad to cpu then to GPU... How does that work, Doesn't this make the gpu hotter because you are giving it the cpu heat stuff right to the gpu? 

[airdeano]

I think I don't get is this.

The loop.

Rad to cpu then to GPU... How does that work, Doesn't this make the gpu hotter because you are giving it the cpu heat stuff right to the gpu? 

 

the actual coolant is only 8°-12° above ambient. the actual coolant temperature at

each block is much lower than what the device is reporting. so you are not actually

transferring that much heat (if any) from one device to another. that is how you can

rate a water block is by how much heat can be transferred into the coolant before it

leaves the device. and with water pumps at WOT, they usually don't get enough

time to allow the heat to properly transfer.

 

tests were done to route:

CPU>RAD>GPU>RAD>RES/PUMP or RAD>CPU>GPU>RAD>RES/PUMP or

RAD>RAD>GPU>CPU>RES/PUMP and there were not sufficient gains in thermal

performance to make this a dedicated routing system. once the coolant stabilizes

and the radiators heat-cycle, the system seems to equalize in temperatures

throughout (talking coolant temps not device temps).

[Ghost]

To add to what airdeano said the coolant has a variance of +/- ~3C within the loop.

 

The coolant temp rises as an average. Unless you manage to get the coolant down to ambient between each component (which you wont without some serious cooling kit) there is no need for staggering the rads and components.

 

The most effective thing to do if you really want to do it is have a separate loop for GPU and CPU (so the two loops can have different average temps), but not even that helps much and costs a lot more.

[B NEGATIVE]

the actual coolant is only 8°-12° above ambient. the actual coolant temperature at

each block is much lower than what the device is reporting. so you are not actually

transferring that much heat (if any) from one device to another. that is how you can

rate a water block is by how much heat can be transferred into the coolant before it

leaves the device. and with water pumps at WOT, they usually don't get enough

time to allow the heat to properly transfer.

 

tests were done to route:

CPU>RAD>GPU>RAD>RES/PUMP or RAD>CPU>GPU>RAD>RES/PUMP or

RAD>RAD>GPU>CPU>RES/PUMP and there were not sufficient gains in thermal

performance to make this a dedicated routing system. once the coolant stabilizes

and the radiators heat-cycle, the system seems to equalize in temperatures

throughout (talking coolant temps not device temps).

All of this.

Loop order makes so little difference as to be irrelevent.

Plan your loop to have the minimum of tubing.

[DrainDoc]

Hi.

 

I was thinking about doing water cooling on my new computer build but I don't know what kind of radiators to get? This is what I got so far...

Planning build. 

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1IIg0

Some of the parts are over kill but they look good Should have gotten a 780 or something.. Hope I can Overclock my 770 to something good.

The case I'm planning on getting is the new Corsair 750D.  I want a clean looking case for a red and black colour scheme with white sleeved cables with red leds like this one. https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/44526-august-10th-overkill-buyers-guide-where-to-buy-components/

 

I don't know so I'm guessing I would go with this radiator with Corsair SP120 PWM High Performance for the top.

http://www.aquatuning.us/product_info.php/info/p12340_Alphacool-NexXxoS-XT45-Full-Copper-360mm.html

For me to change the speed of the fan, I'm going to use the motherboards fan controlling software.

I have chosen the Corsair SP120 PWM High Performance because of the looks, I heard they have pretty decent airflow so.. why not?

 

Now I'm stuck. Should I get a 2x140 or 2x120 radiator for the front or 2x120 for the bottom? And what about thickness of the radiator, even for the the 3x120 radiator, its 45mm? Not sure...

Pump, reservoirs, tubing, fittings, cpu and gpu block... mmmhm

For the cpu block I'm guess the Koolance 380i, If there are better, Please suggest!

The GPU block is harder to find because its not a reference card  

For tubing.. I want to get the red tubing like the other build. "Copied and Pasted"

Reservoirs.. Might look into that when more people own the case for water cooling... lol this might take a while.

Pump, same thing. 

If you want to suggest something, please do and if you think I missed anything, tell me!

 

Thanks.

For me personally, with that case. I would use 1 - 420 at the top........1 - 280 at the front.........And Mod a single 140 at the bottom.

 

Make the 140mm rear exhaust fan a intake fan(turn it around). And get yourself 3 fan filters for the rear(now intake)

 

and the now bottom 140 Rad.

 

I recommend:

 

DEMCiflex 140mm Magnetic Fan Dust Filter For rear intake. DEMCiflex Magnetic Fan Dust Filter - Custom Filter for Dual 120mm Radiators  for bottom 140 Rad./because the area at bottom of that case has room for either dual 120 rad or dual 120mm fans. But not if putting a 280 in front. It won't all fit. With my configuration, that is.

[IBIubbleTea]

 

For me personally, with that case. I would use 1 - 420 at the top........1 - 280 at the front.........And Mod a single 140 at the bottom.

 

Make the 140mm rear exhaust fan a intake fan(turn it around). And get yourself 3 fan filters for the rear(now intake)

 

and the now bottom 140 Rad.

 

I recommend:

 

DEMCiflex 140mm Magnetic Fan Dust Filter For rear intake. DEMCiflex Magnetic Fan Dust Filter - Custom Filter for Dual 120mm Radiators  for bottom 140 Rad./because the area at bottom of that case has room for either dual 120 rad or dual 120mm fans. But not if putting a 280 in front. It won't all fit. With my configuration, that is.

 

I don't think I can put a 420 on the top. I can only do 3x120 or 2x140. Thats what it says on the Corsair website.http://www.corsair.com/en/pc-cases/obsidian-series-pc-case/obsidian-series-750d-full-tower-atx-case.html

[DrainDoc]

I don't think I can put a 420 on the top. I can only do 3x120 or 2x140. Thats what it says on the Corsair website.http://www.corsair.com/en/pc-cases/obsidian-series-pc-case/obsidian-series-750d-full-tower-atx-case.html

Oh. OK. My Bad. Got bad info from Tiny Tom Logan then. Sorry about that.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCqSFB1wWl0

[IBIubbleTea]

Oh. OK. My Bad. Got bad info from Tiny Tom Logan then. Sorry about that.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCqSFB1wWl0

So I need 3 radiators

[DrainDoc]

So I need 3 radiators

I don't know that you "Need" 3 radiators.

 

There is just only so much room in that case to install radiators.

 

So my point/config.......Is just to give you as much cooling as you can in that case.

 

Because I believe a 60mil. thick Rad. can fit at the top and an 80mil. Rad. in the front.

 

And another possible single 60mil. at the bottom.......You could also put a Rad. in the Rear exhaust fan

area. But most guys hate that, and I don't want to get yelled at.

 

This can be a very rough Forum.

 

But it's "Your" Build don't forget. You can get all the advise in the world, but in the end, you have the final say.

[IBIubbleTea]

I don't know that you "Need" 3 radiators.

 

There is just only so much room in that case to install radiators.

 

So my point/config.......Is just to give you as much cooling as you can in that case.

 

Because I believe a 60mil. thick Rad. can fit at the top and an 80mil. Rad. in the front.

 

And another possible single 60mil. at the bottom.......You could also put a Rad. in the Rear exhaust fan

area. But most guys hate that, and I don't want to get yelled at.

 

This can be a very rough Forum.

 

But it's "Your" Build don't forget. You can get all the advise in the world, but in the end, you have the final say.

I think I only need 2 rads, 1 3x120 45mm rad on the top. and 2x140 for the front. I might get the new amd cards if they dont "eat" to much power.