is code academy bad to learn HTML

GreezyJeezy · April 10, 2016

so i think its outdated or something because i made some code posted it with a question and then people said that HTML5 which i guess what i was coding in by saying !DOCTYPE html was wrong and that HTML5 doesn't use center anymore and idk

so either is there a free place (not youtube) a place like codecademy that is a interactive experience that teaches HTML5?

oe how do i tell the browser i want to use normal HTML and not HTML5

Luc401 · April 10, 2016

http://www.w3schools.com/html/ Is the BEST site to learn html..

Hazy125 · April 10, 2016

Codeacademy is about the only service that provides it that well, if you want to specify a different HTML version, you need to use a different document type declaration. For example, HTML 4.01 transitional was the most commonly used before HTML5 became the recommended by W3C. It's DTD was

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

EDIT: Also, you previous topics code had errors which was why codeacademy wasn't accepting it. You had align=center rather than align="center"

GreezyJeezy · April 10, 2016

4 minutes ago, Luc401 said:

http://www.w3schools.com/html/ Is the BEST site to learn html..

welp is time for me to forget some stuff i learned and learn some new stuff, man this sucks

Luc401 · April 10, 2016

1 minute ago, GreezyJeezy said:

welp is time for me to forget some stuff i learned and learn some new stuff, man this sucks

Im not a fan of the sites like code academy because i already know the basics, i just want to know a task to do. I started leaning HTML, css, java script, php, but wanting to build my own website. I actually have just moved my website over to bootstrapper www.luc401.com

GreezyJeezy · April 10, 2016

1 minute ago, Luc401 said:

Im not a fan of the sites like code academy because i already know the basics, i just want to know a task to do. I started leaning HTML, css, java script, php, but wanting to build my own website. I actually have just moved my website over to bootstrapper www.luc401.com

you made that website from scratch?

Luc401 · April 10, 2016

Just now, GreezyJeezy said:

you made that website from scratch?

Nope used a bootstrapper template. I made my old website from scratch this is what it looked like .

http://i.imgur.com/YVrINum.png

GreezyJeezy · April 10, 2016

5 minutes ago, Luc401 said:

Nope used a bootstrapper template. I made my old website from scratch this is what it looked like .

http://i.imgur.com/YVrINum.png

ah i thought it was a template, and yeah thats pretty much what mine will look like

Luc401 · April 10, 2016

12 minutes ago, GreezyJeezy said:

ah i thought it was a template, and yeah thats pretty much what mine will look like

Id suggest doing something like mine at first then moving over to bootstrapper, its actually amazing how well you can implemetn stuff into boot

GreezyJeezy · April 10, 2016

1 minute ago, Luc401 said:

Id suggest doing something like mine at first then moving over to bootstrapper, its actually amazing how well you can implemetn stuff into boot

a guy on here actually let me use his server and is giving me 1 year of hosting for free

Luc401 · April 10, 2016

1 minute ago, GreezyJeezy said:

a guy on here actually let me use his server and is giving me 1 year of hosting for free

Nice i use angryhosting for 1$ a month, and godaddy for ~30$/year for my domain.

GreezyJeezy · April 10, 2016

58 minutes ago, Hazy125 said:

Codeacademy is about the only service that provides it that well, if you want to specify a different HTML version, you need to use a different document type declaration. For example, HTML 4.01 transitional was the most commonly used before HTML5 became the recommended by W3C. It's DTD was

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

EDIT: Also, you previous topics code had errors which was why codeacademy wasn't accepting it. You had align=center rather than align="center"

hey i have a question. so is it better to use CSS or HTML stuff for like the style attribute or does it not matter? im looking into it on the w3school and it showed coloring text with html (i knew how to do that) then it shows it with CSS, is there a time when its better to use CSS for stuff HTML can do?

Hazy125 · April 10, 2016

4 minutes ago, GreezyJeezy said:

hey i have a question. so is it better to use CSS or HTML stuff for like the style attribute or does it not matter? im looking into it on the w3school and it showed coloring text with html (i knew how to do that) then it shows it with CSS, is there a time when its better to use CSS for stuff HTML can do?

In general, it's better to use CSS over HTML. Also, they style attribute is CSS. For example:

<div align="left"></div>//This is a HTML attribute
<div style="align:left;"></div>//This is inline CSS

CSS comes in 3 forms, external, embedded and inline. External has CSS in a different document entirely that is linked with HTML. Embedded is in the HTML document, enclosed in a <style></style> tag. And inline is above- inside a style attribute. If you wanted to target an element with a class of 'blue' for example, inline CSS overrides embedded CSS, which overrides external CSS. That's what the Cascading part in Cascading Style Sheets(CSS) means. Thus with CSS you have a lot more control and flexibility then using HTML.

Also, a whole bunch of HTML attribute stuff looks really ugly. Just a mess of quotation marks and '=' signs. So CSS looks better as well

GreezyJeezy · April 10, 2016

9 minutes ago, Hazy125 said:

In general, it's better to use CSS over HTML. Also, they style attribute is CSS. For example:

so can you use CSS like you would HTML with style?

so say you want some green text in HTML you go

<P style="color: green"> hello </P>

just to make that one like green, i saw in CSS in the heading you can put like

p 
{ 
  color: green;
}

but then every paragraph is green, using CSS can you make it just like with HTML where you can make just one paragraph green? same for font and size.

or is that inline where you do that? sorry if you answered that with your last post im just new and dont know a lot i just go to the part talking about external CSS on w3

Hazy125 · April 10, 2016

First, yes, that is how you would use inline CSS to make the text green. Next part will be a bit of an explanation so bear with me

There are many many different ways to target with CSS...

class- Use to apply a style to multiple things with that class name

id- Use to apply to one thing only. Technically you can put an id on mutiple items and it should work fine but don't... That's what class is for

:input- For input elements on a form

tag- Similar to what you did before, this will apply to all of that tag. You used paragraph.

You can also select using the parent element to start with. For example

<header><h1>Main page title</h1></header>

<section><h1>Secondary page title</h1></section>

<stlye>
	header h1{
  	font-size: 150%;
  }  
</style>

This will only apply font size to the h1 tag that's inside the header element. This also works for classes and id's. For example, you use # to target id's, so something like #mainSection span{} will work, applying the CSS to all spans enclosed in the the element with the id of mainSection.

Theeeeeen, you also have psuedo selectors. So this is all the cute hover things you see on websites

<style>
  p{
  	border: 1px solid black;
  }
  p:hover{
  	border-radius: 5px;
  }
</style>

<p>Hover over me and I will get a curved border</p>

and this can extend to target different elements when you hover over this and that aaaaaaaaand there's way too much for me to even being to cover. but yeah, I forgot what you asked, hop this answered it

Gachr · April 10, 2016

If the codecademy course uses <center> tags, it is truly terrible... it is the very obsolete, and, today, wrong way of doing things. I initially learnt html from w3schools, even tho it's said to be a bad place to learn. Then I learnt from many different sources, and I'm just looking at docs if there is something I don't know. MDN (Mozilla Developer Network) is said to be the best place to learn, but when I looked at it, it seemed to be not too beginner-friendly.

A common mistake is to confuse HTML with CSS, and you should make a clear distinction there. You actually don't really need CSS to do backend programming for example.

I created a topic about Codecademy, it's more about the programming side, but you should still look at it and share:

Kalebtheking12 · April 10, 2016

It's got some serious bug issues. I pay for Codecademy pro, not for html tho, more for Ruby and Command Script. I would recommend, W3Schools.

Julian5 · April 12, 2016

http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp

colonel_mortis · April 12, 2016

I found http://htmldog.com/guides/html/ useful when I was learning the basics of HTML, though that may have changed, or it may just have been that I didn't know any better. It's still worth trying though IMO.

They have a CSS tutorial too once you've got the hang of HTML.

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