HELP, compueter freezing

[synnapt]

my computer are freezing randomly whitout warning.

the freezing is somtime 1h from computer start and somtimes it takes a week before it freezes.

i hawe noted it freezing under mid load aswell as idling

i did think it could be the ram that was faulty but i hawe run the ram diagnostics tool in windows and memtest whitout any problems found.

i hawe reinstalled all my drivers and tryed a reinstall.

but nothing helps, so now im here asking for help whit my problem and hopes for a solution

 

thx in advance

 

specs:

 

cpu: i7 -3770

ram: kingston 4x4 16800 MB/s

motherboard: asus Z8Z77-V LX

grafix: xfx radeon r9 380

psu: xfx 750 w

os: win10

[PokeCatz]

Reset all overclocks (if overclocking)

does it show a blue screen of death, if so post picture

watch your temps right before the crash

check if mobo faulty

[synnapt]

no oc

no bsod

temps normal and no abnormal activity on cpu,ram,gpu

 

anny good way of checking if motherboard is faulty??

[Mark77]

Hard drives are a notorious cause of freezing, especially if they're in the early stages of failure.

 

Perhaps someone here can recommend a hard drive benchmark that can graph a read-out of entire disk.  Or at the very least, run something like CrystalDiskInfo or smartmontools (if you're on  Linux) and it will tell you if there's something noticeably going on with the disk. 

[synnapt]

2 minutes ago, Mark77 said:

Hard drives are a notorious cause of freezing, especially if they're in the early stages of failure.

 

Perhaps someone here can recommend a hard drive benchmark that can graph a read-out of entire disk.  Or at the very least, run something like CrystalDiskInfo or smartmontools (if you're on  Linux) and it will tell you if there's something noticeably going on with the disk. 

might be, but i hawe done daily defrags whitout anny signs of crash and run cmd command "chkdsk"

[Mark77]

3 minutes ago, synnapt said:

might be, but i hawe done daily defrags whitout anny signs of crash and run cmd command "chkdsk"

 

Perhaps so, but I've seen a few cases where hard drives will just take a bit longer than usual when reading certain blocks.  Particularly in the early stages of failure, they can often, with appropriate error-correcting codes and retries, recover data. 

 

Not saying this is applicable to your situation, but a mere chkdsk or bad blocks scan in Windows (or fsck in Linux) wouldn't detect such performance degradation and impending failure.  Even the SMART statistics may fall silent unless you are really good at trending and interpretation.

[synnapt]

1 minute ago, Mark77 said:

 

Perhaps so, but I've seen a few cases where hard drives will just take a bit longer than usual when reading certain blocks.  Particularly in the early stages of failure, they can often, with appropriate error-correcting codes and retries, recover data. 

 

Not saying this is applicable to your situation, but a mere chkdsk or bad blocks scan in Windows wouldn't detect this behaviour.

will try difrent kinds of hdd programs when i get home to my computer. if annyone know a good free one fell free to post it here and ill come back when tested

[synnapt]

frogot to mention this but the freezes has ben going on for almos a year

[Mark77]

What hard drives you running in that anyways?  4 years ago, hmmm, were people still building machines with HDDs as boot drives?  I'd have to think so.  There were lots of less-than-savoury, prone-to-failure SSDs, particularly from OCZ, sold around that time as well. 

[synnapt]

1 minute ago, Mark77 said:

What hard drives you running in that anyways?  4 years ago, hmmm, were people still building machines with HDDs as boot drives?  I'd have to think so.  There were lots of less-than-savoury, prone-to-failure SSDs, particularly from OCZ, sold around that time as well. 

1T mechanical hdd from sergate. bought about 3-4 years ago

[Mark77]

Just now, synnapt said:

1T mechanical hdd from sergate. bought about 3-4 years ago

Ick, yeah those Seagates from that era were notorious. 

 

Even if its not the drive gone/going bad, seriously, get a SSD!  Best computer upgrade you'll ever spend money on.

[incarnate]

Try putting your gpu in another pcie slot. Could be a damaged slot or pcie lane/trace. That fixed the same problem for me in my last build.

[synnapt]

12 minutes ago, Mark77 said:

Ick, yeah those Seagates from that era were notorious. 

 

Even if its not the drive gone/going bad, seriously, get a SSD!  Best computer upgrade you'll ever spend money on.

agred i hawe been haweing ssd in thoght for a while now, but as long as my hdd is working and i dont finnd somthing wrong. dont wanna spend the money on a ssd yet.

found a 3-party program ill try later called CrystalDiskInfo and a smd command  "wmic"       "diskdrive get status"

[synnapt]

1 minute ago, incarnate said:

Try putting your gpu in another pcie slot. Could be a damaged slot or pcie lane/trace. That fixed the same problem for me in my last build.

can the gpu rly be a problem when it dosent even bother when i push it to the max and some of the freezes hapend when it was on idle??

[incarnate]

1 minute ago, synnapt said:

can the gpu rly be a problem when it dosent even bother when i push it to the max and some of the freezes hapend when it was on idle??

Yes. It would work fine for hours in thief, but shit itself in harthstone. It isn't the gpu, but could be the slot

[synnapt]

2 minutes ago, incarnate said:

Yes. It would work fine for hours in thief, but shit itself in harthstone.

will try switching then, even thoe it runs smotly in all games i tryed so far

[incarnate]

Just now, synnapt said:

will try switching then, even thoe it runs smotly in all games i tryed so far

It's worth a shot. I'm not saying it is the cause, but it was when I had freeze problems. Best of luck

[synnapt]

7 hours ago, synnapt said:

agred i hawe been haweing ssd in thoght for a while now, but as long as my hdd is working and i dont finnd somthing wrong. dont wanna spend the money on a ssd yet.

found a 3-party program ill try later called CrystalDiskInfo and a smd command  "wmic"       "diskdrive get status"

well iv trired to run CrystalDiskInfo and it says ym drive is good still so i will take its word on that. did some small gothro deleting some unecesary programs.

will w8 for next freeze untill i try switching the slot for my gpu

[synnapt]

On 2016-04-06 at 10:13 AM, incarnate said:

Try putting your gpu in another pcie slot. Could be a damaged slot or pcie lane/trace. That fixed the same problem for me in my last build.

since i switched my gpu to another pcie slot it stoped freezing.

but my games now run slower than ever before.

annyone know of annyway to clean/reapair the pcie slot?? looked inside and saw a white spot at the beginning of the lane (could just been the light from my camera but not sure)

[synnapt]

well seams like i jumped the gun and chose the solution to early, 2 weeks after switching the freezes continued.

so im back to looking for the problem.