First Build

[Lavin A.]

Hi, I'd like some advice for my first build.

I'm gonna use this PC for gaming, Cinema 4D, Photoshop and Premiere Pro.

 

Here's the part list:

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790k (I'll run this on turbo boost @4.4GHz) (Stock cooler)

Motherboard: MSI z97 Gaming 5

Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws X 16 GB (2x8) 1600 MHz

PSU: Corsair CS550M 500 Watt 80+ Gold

Case: NZXT Noctis 450 Black and Red

 

Main concern:

GPU: MSI GTX 970 4g gaming / MSI r9 390 8g gaming

• Which GPU should I use and why? My concern here is that this variant of the r9 390 is very rare in availability here and also around a $100 more expensive than the GTX 970.
• Also, does r9 390 have a huge performance gain over the 970 in directx 12? 

 

Other concerns I have:

1. Do I need 8gb of VRAM?
2. Do I need an 1866 MHz ram instead of 1600?
3. Do I need an aftermarket cooler for running the cpu at turbo boost?
4. If in case I get a 1866 MHz Ram, I would need to use the XMP profile, will it work well with turbo boost?
5. Is the PSU (CS550M) suitable for this build? / Do I need a higher watt PSU?

 

Thanks in advance for any kind of help.

 

[courtiousdoge]

• ram 1866 mhz  does nto make a huge diffrence spend ur money elsewhere also if u have a 1440 p monitor get r9 390 but if u have a 1080 p get 970 

[79wjd]

Why are you only considering the MSI 390? There are plenty of other options. RIGNT NOW the 390 has an advantage in DX12, in the future that may change it may not...no one can really say for certain. It depends how good of a job Nvidia does with its drivers. I would personally go for a 390 for the extra VRAM though -- but not for $100 more or even close to that (unless Premiere benefits a lot from Cuda, I dont know if it does).

 

You don't need 8gb of VRAM, but it's nice for the future. If it's basically the same price, then theres no reason not to go for faster RAM, but I wouldn't pay a lot extra for it. You should get an aftermarket cooler (at least a cheapish one -- $30~) so you can overclock and/or not have to listen to the loud stock cooler. You often need to disable XMP to be able to overclock your cpu further (overclocking your cpu > overclocking your ram). The wattage is fine, but you should get a higher quality psu -- if you're in the US, then I would look at something like an EVGA GQ750w, the wattage is way overkill, but it's only a bit more expensive than the 650w version but 750w offers a lot more headroom for SLI/Crossfire.

[HKZeroFive]

1. For 1080p gaming, you won't be pushing the GTX 970's barrier of 3.5GB (technically 4GB but you know what I mean).

2. No.

3. You should get an aftermarket cooler to overclock the CPU. The stock cooler isn't good enough.

4. It'll work.

5. There are better choices. The EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G2 would be a great PSU to have.

 

And there's no way in hell a R9 390 is worth a $100 more than the GTX 970. Get the GTX 970 or a different R9 390 model if it's around the same price as the GTX 970.

[courtiousdoge]

get dis cpu cooler 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2

or if u have some more money get dis

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h60cw9060007ww

[79wjd]

6 minutes ago, courtiousdoge said:

get dis cpu cooler 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2

or if u have some more money get dis

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h60cw9060007ww

Never get a <240mm AIO. The price-to-performance is awful. 

 

Budget options ($30~): 

• Cooler Master Hyper 212
• Cyrorig H7
• BeQuiet! pure Rock

Medium options ($50~): 

• Cryorig H5
• BeQuiet Shadow Rock 2

High End options ($70+):

• Noctua NH-D15
• Noctua NH-D14
• BeQuiet! Dark Rock 3
• BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3
• Any 240mm/280mm AIO

[courtiousdoge]

its still better than air cooling at least

[HKZeroFive]

1 minute ago, courtiousdoge said:

its still better than air cooling at least

No. A good air cooler will be better than a mediocre AIO.

[courtiousdoge]

see a good air cooler is around 80 usd but this is cheaper

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, courtiousdoge said:

see a good air cooler is around 80 usd but this is cheaper

No, like a $40 air cooler will outperform it. An $80~ cooler competes with 240mm AIOs. 

 

Budget options ($30~): 

• Cooler Master Hyper 212
• Cyrorig H7
• BeQuiet! pure Rock

Medium options ($50~): 

• Cryorig H5
• BeQuiet Shadow Rock 2

High End options ($70+):

• Noctua NH-D15
• Noctua NH-D14
• BeQuiet! Dark Rock 3
• BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3
• Any 240mm/280mm AIO

[79wjd]

-snip- 

[courtiousdoge]

also dat guy might just be making us fight for no reason or trolling

[HKZeroFive]

1 minute ago, courtiousdoge said:

also dat guy might just be making us fight for no reason or trolling

Who is this guy? Are you talking about me?

 

I assure you, I'm not trolling. I'm simply telling the truth.

[courtiousdoge]

not u da guy who started the topic

[Lavin A.]

2 minutes ago, courtiousdoge said:

also dat guy might just be making us fight for no reason or trolling

No, I'm not. Also, thanks for all the replies. I'm considering the 970 gaming 4g and the hyper 212 evo. Would anyone suggest some PSUs? Some parts are available at almost twice the price here so I'd like some options regarding that.

[courtiousdoge]

21 minutes ago, Mr.Troll said:

Hi, I'd like some advice for my first build.

I'm gonna use this PC for gaming, Cinema 4D, Photoshop and Premiere Pro.

 

Here's the part list:

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790k (I'll run this on turbo boost @4.4GHz) (Stock cooler)

Motherboard: MSI z97 Gaming 5

Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws X 16 GB (2x8) 1600 MHz

PSU: Corsair CS550M 500 Watt 80+ Gold

Case: NZXT Noctis 450 Black and Red

 

Main concern:

GPU: MSI GTX 970 4g gaming / MSI r9 390 8g gaming

• Which GPU should I use and why? My concern here is that this variant of the r9 390 is very rare in availability here and also around a $100 more expensive than the GTX 970.
• Also, does r9 390 have a huge performance gain over the 970 in directx 12? 

 

Other concerns I have:

1. Do I need 8gb of VRAM?
2. Do I need an 1866 MHz ram instead of 1600?
3. Do I need an aftermarket cooler for running the cpu at turbo boost?
4. If in case I get a 1866 MHz Ram, I would need to use the XMP profile, will it work well with turbo boost?
5. Is the PSU (CS550M) suitable for this build? / Do I need a higher watt PSU?

 

Thanks in advance for any kind of help.

 

dis guy

[HKZeroFive]

4 minutes ago, courtiousdoge said:

dis guy

How is this trolling... Just because his name is 'Mr Troll'? He's only looking for help.

 

Way to be judgemental and trying to shift the blame of your incorrect statement to someone who is simply only asking some questions and guidance.

[courtiousdoge]

u can get dis power supply http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr

[HKZeroFive]

4 minutes ago, courtiousdoge said:

u can get dis power supply http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr

No. The G1/NEX series aren't good. The G2, GQ, B2 surpass it easily.

 

While the Corsair CS isn't the best, it's still better than EVGA's NEX series.

[courtiousdoge]

in what 

[Lavin A.]

EVGA PSUs aren't available here and can only be imported for twice the cost, the best one I could really buy would be some corsair power supply. (also a few Antec ones maybe)

[79wjd]

14 minutes ago, Mr.Troll said:

No, I'm not. Also, thanks for all the replies. I'm considering the 970 gaming 4g and the hyper 212 evo. Would anyone suggest some PSUs? Some parts are available at almost twice the price here so I'd like some options regarding that.

Corsair RMi/RMx, AXi, HX, HXi, TX 

EVGA B2, G2, GQ, GS, P2, P, T2 series

Pretty much anything Seasonic

Silverstone Strider

XFX P1, TS, XTR, Core Edition

[courtiousdoge]

where do u live?

[HKZeroFive]

6 minutes ago, courtiousdoge said:

in what 

It's a PSU made by FSP and it's honestly pretty meh. Less reliable and it's pretty much on par with Corsair's CX series, not suitable for any gaming or overclocking.

[Lavin A.]

4 minutes ago, courtiousdoge said:

where do u live?

India

 

4 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Corsair RMi/RMx, AXi

EVGA B2, G2, GQ, GS series

Pretty much anything Seasonic

Silverstone Strider

XFX P1 

How about Seasonic S12II 620 watt?