i3-4170 vs amd fx 6300

[alphamonkey]

I am on my what to build a $700 pc build. The best two cpus that I have found to fit my pc build and have a mother board that is both normal atx and have all my necessities are these two cpus

The i3 4170 and the amd fx 6300.

 

Honestly I don't know what to choose, I am currently waiting for which of the two go for a really good price.

 

I hope anyone can clear up my doubts on this very close battle of cpus.

Would also like any tips for buying parts for the cheap.

[79wjd]

If you're just gaming go with the i3, if you're going to do any rendering then the FX6300. But if you're in the US and don't need peripherals/an OS, then you can probably squeeze in an i5. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($30.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  ($274.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($37.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($56.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $705.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-16 21:22 EST-0500

[Guest]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

If you're just gaming go with the i3, if you're going to do any rendering then the FX6300. 

This guy's right

[alphamonkey]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

If you're just gaming go with the i3, if you're going to do any rendering then the FX6300. 

what about in the long run what has the best performance

 

[ChrisBrown]

i3 will be a bottleneck depending on what GPU you have

[alphamonkey]

Just now, ChrisBrown said:

i3 will be a bottleneck depending on what GPU you have

I have the 750 ti that is the only part I have ordered so far

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, alphamonkey said:

what about in the long run what has the best performance

 

It's hard to say, multithreaded performance (in theory) should get better making the FX6 the better choice, but strong single core performance will ALWAYS be important and is easier to code for.... So, both will likely be equally good going forward. 

 

but I would aim for something like this:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($30.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  ($274.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($37.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($56.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $705.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-16 21:22 EST-0500

4 minutes ago, ChrisBrown said:

i3 will be a bottleneck depending on what GPU you have

An FX6300 will bottleneck more. 

[alphamonkey]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

If you're just gaming go with the i3, if you're going to do any rendering then the FX6300. But if you're in the US and don't need peripherals/an OS, then you can probably squeeze in an i5. 

I am in Canada so budget is very tight

[Guest]

1 minute ago, ChrisBrown said:

i3 will be a bottleneck depending on what GPU you have

But in the end, the fx just has more cores....so won't they both bottleneck??

[ChrisBrown]

Just now, alphamonkey said:

I have the 750 ti that is the only part I have ordered so far

Yeah depending on what you will be doing the i3 would be better however if you try to game you wont have much luck because of the 2 cores 4 threads.

[79wjd]

3 minutes ago, jkeasley said:

But in the end, the fx just has more cores....so won't they both bottleneck??

The FX has more cores, but it's cores are SIGNIFICANTLY weaker. 

[alphamonkey]

quick thing I live in the Canada so that is why budget is very tight

[alphamonkey]

Just now, CUDA_Cores said:

i3 for gaming only

 

FX 6300 if you are doing other things

 

4 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

If you're just gaming go with the i3, if you're going to do any rendering then the FX6300. But if you're in the US and don't need peripherals/an OS, then you can probably squeeze in an i5. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($30.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  ($274.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($37.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($56.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $705.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-16 21:22 EST-0500

 

I live in Canada so prices are different

Also does that mean the fx 6300 is both a gaming and rendering cpu

and the i3 is only good if i use it for normal things and gaming only

[79wjd]

6 minutes ago, alphamonkey said:

quick thing I live in the Canada so that is why budget is very tight

Can you bump your budget and/or return the 750Ti? Either way I would return the 750Ti and get an R9 380. If you can bump your budget up to $800~ you can get an i5+380 which will yield much better performance now and in the future. If you can't go higher than $700, then just swap the i5 for an i3 is what I would do. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($249.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($64.10 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: G.Skill AEGIS 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($47.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($64.10 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card  ($279.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($47.95 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $813.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-16 21:28 EST-0500

[alphamonkey]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

Can you bump your budget and/or return the 750Ti? Either way I would return the 750Ti and get an R9 380. 

Not really I am low on budget as it is and i just barely cut is also  in Canada the price for the r9 380 is around $260 near to 40percent of my budget

so yeah.

Also on pcpartpicker the prices are kind of off because they don't factor in tax and shipping correctly just an observation

[alphamonkey]

Just now, CUDA_Cores said:

The i3 will give you better framerates

 

the fx 6300 will give you worse framerates BUT much better performance for things like rendering

how much lower will my framerates be if its still very playable then i am good also will it be useful other things like

or will it be only beneficial for rendering. I don't plan on doing much rendering so i want to know if I can get any other bonuses.

[79wjd]

6 minutes ago, alphamonkey said:

Not really I am low on budget as it is and i just barely cut is also  in Canada the price for the r9 380 is around $260 near to 40percent of my budget

so yeah.

Also on pcpartpicker the prices are kind of off because they don't factor in tax and shipping correctly just an observation

Reuse your current HDD, go with a cheaper case, and go with the 2gb 380. The performance will be significantly higher than that of a 750Ti. For a gaming build spending 40% of your budget on a GPU is perfectly okay. 

[alphamonkey]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

Reuse your current HDD, go with a cheaper case, and go with the 2gb 380. The performance will be significantly higher than that of a 750Ti. For a gaming build spending 40% of your budget on a GPU is perfectly okay. 

I am currently running with a laptop =( and will be giving it to someone else so I have to buy a HDD

also with the r9 380 will i be bottlenecking it with the cpu i have given above

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, alphamonkey said:

I am currently running with a laptop =( and will be giving it to someone else so I have to buy a HDD

also with the r9 380 will i be bottlenecking it with the cpu i have given above

An i3 or FX6 are both pretty good matches with an R9 380. Sure you might bottleneck it a bit in some games, but you'll still get close to full performance out of it -- and a LOT more than you would from a 750Ti. 

 

 

[comicsansms]

1 minute ago, alphamonkey said:

I am currently running with a laptop =( and will be giving it to someone else so I have to buy a HDD

also with the r9 380 will i be bottlenecking it with the cpu i have given above

A R9 380 will not be bottlenecked by either a FX 6300 or i3 4170 in MOST games.

[VagabondWraith]

I would go i3. At the very least you could upgrade to an i5 or better yet, an i7 down the line. That way you won't be stuck on a dead platform that's outdated by 5 years and running.

[alphamonkey]

5 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

An i3 or FX6 are both pretty good matches with an R9 380. Sure you might bottleneck it a bit in some games, but you'll still get close to full performance out of it -- and a LOT more than you would from a 750Ti. 

 

 

The real problem is that with the parts I am eyeing currently I am just $10 off from my budget bringing in the r9 380 would have to mean rethinking the whole design. Also with Canadian prices rip it all. My cpu and motherboard alone would cost $250 plus the rest is just around $690

aside from the 750ti i got for $180  the rest of my parts come to a wopping $518 CND this is including tax

[Guest]

1 hour ago, djdwosk97 said:

The FX has more cores, but it's cores are SIGNIFICANTLY weaker. 

But still...wont they still both bottleneck. I've found that my r9 270x is bottlenecking my a10-6800K

[79wjd]

3 minutes ago, jkeasley said:

But still...wont they still both bottleneck. I've found that my r9 270x is bottlenecking my a10-6800K

If your 270x is bottlenecking your 6800k then yoru 6800k is capable of running a faster GPU. An i3 and an FX6300 are both more powerful than a 6800k.

[Guest]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

If your 270x is bottlenecking your 6800k then yoru 6800k is capable of running a faster GPU. An i3 and an FX6300 are both more powerful than a 6800k.

Otherway around...I got it wrong