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On ‎2‎/‎16‎/‎2016 at 3:29 AM, Imakuni said:

Just a quick note, WCG doesn't make use of GPUs,at least not right now.

 

Anyway, distributed computing won't hurt your GPU, so long as temps are cool.

One of the reasons I have the four GPUs I dedicate to BOINC water cooled. They're currently running at 40C compared to 70+C when they were on their air coolers. On the downside, the room where I have them can get pretty warm now since they are running around the clock doing GPUGrid. That along with MilkyWay@Home will cook a graphics card pretty well, as will Folding@Home, which has added benefit of sautéing your CPU alongside it.

 

Back to @EdVentureTime, if you're going to be doing distributed computing on your GPU for any sustained period of time frequently, water cooling I think will be a basic requirement on that, even if it'll be a Kraken G10 with a Corsair H55 -- you don't need anything more than that. If the card will also be used for gaming and you decide to use a Kraken G10, make sure you have short heatsinks on the VRMs and memory to keep them cool as well.

Hello all,

Quick question- will using my GPU for BOING/WCG shorten its lifespan significantly? If so, what steps can I take to keep it safe?

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What degrades chips more than anything is heat and high voltage. If you can keep it cool you can extend the life. 

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3 hours ago, EdVentureTime said:

Hello all,

Quick question- will using my GPU for BOING/WCG shorten its lifespan significantly? If so, what steps can I take to keep it safe?

Just a quick note, WCG doesn't make use of GPUs,at least not right now.

 

Anyway, distributed computing won't hurt your GPU, so long as temps are cool.

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After folding on my 780 for a year straight, my overclock was no longer stable.

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3 hours ago, FloRolf said:

After folding on my 780 for a year straight, my overclock was no longer stable.

More like it never was stable to begin with, but only after a recent software update, (which uses the GPU in a different manner) the instability was really discovered.

 

Or you just let it overheat...

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1 hour ago, Imakuni said:

More like it never was stable to begin with, but only after a recent software update, (which uses the GPU in a different manner) the instability was really discovered.

 

Or you just let it overheat...

well yeah it was, derp.

I don't think software updates change it that much.

I kept it under 65°C at all times

And it wasnt "crashing unstable" after, it was just artifacting unstable.

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6 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

well yeah it was, derp.

I don't think software updates change it that much.

I kept it under 65°C at all times

And it wasnt "crashing unstable" after, it was just artifacting unstable.

Nope, happened to me at Boinc. I used to run a "rock solid" +164mhz OC on my GPU. Then, a new app was developed which used a different logic, was insanely faster (like, 30%) and also had a wider range of usage than the previous one. Guess what: now I'm forced to run at a humble +114. The old app, still works 100% fine with a higher OC. The new one just doesn't.

 

And it's not even "crashing unstable" or "artifacting", it was just giving of calculation errors.

 

 

I'm not saying that this is what happened to you. But I want you to know that this is a very likely possibility.

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7 minutes ago, Imakuni said:

Nope, happened to me at Boinc. I used to run a "rock solid" +164mhz OC on my GPU. Then, a new app was developed which used a different logic, was insanely faster (like, 30%) and also had a wider range of usage than the previous one. Guess what: now I'm forced to run at a humble +114. The old app, still works 100% fine with a higher OC. The new one just doesn't.

 

And it's not even "crashing unstable" or "artifacting", it was just giving of calculation errors.

 

 

I'm not saying that this is what happened to you. But I want you to know that this is a very likely possibility.

well i never had the OC enabled during folding because F@H really didn't like my OC at all. But laterm when i enabled it in games, it was artifacting.

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6 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

well i never had the OC enabled during folding because F@H really didn't like my OC at all. But laterm when i enabled it in games, it was artifacting.

Er......

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On ‎2‎/‎16‎/‎2016 at 3:29 AM, Imakuni said:

Just a quick note, WCG doesn't make use of GPUs,at least not right now.

 

Anyway, distributed computing won't hurt your GPU, so long as temps are cool.

One of the reasons I have the four GPUs I dedicate to BOINC water cooled. They're currently running at 40C compared to 70+C when they were on their air coolers. On the downside, the room where I have them can get pretty warm now since they are running around the clock doing GPUGrid. That along with MilkyWay@Home will cook a graphics card pretty well, as will Folding@Home, which has added benefit of sautéing your CPU alongside it.

 

Back to @EdVentureTime, if you're going to be doing distributed computing on your GPU for any sustained period of time frequently, water cooling I think will be a basic requirement on that, even if it'll be a Kraken G10 with a Corsair H55 -- you don't need anything more than that. If the card will also be used for gaming and you decide to use a Kraken G10, make sure you have short heatsinks on the VRMs and memory to keep them cool as well.

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17 minutes ago, brandishwar said:

One of the reasons I have the four GPUs I dedicate to BOINC water cooled. They're currently running at 40C compared to 70+C when they were on their air coolers. On the downside, the room where I have them can get pretty warm now since they are running around the clock doing GPUGrid. That along with MilkyWay@Home will cook a graphics card pretty well, as will Folding@Home, which has added benefit of sautéing your CPU alongside it.

 

Back to @EdVentureTime, if you're going to be doing distributed computing on your GPU for any sustained period of time frequently, water cooling I think will be a basic requirement on that, even if it'll be a Kraken G10 with a Corsair H55 -- you don't need anything more than that. If the card will also be used for gaming and you decide to use a Kraken G10, make sure you have short heatsinks on the VRMs and memory to keep them cool as well.

Wellcome to Primegrid. A world where they released a new app so powerfull that my Gtx 970 (which supposedly is a very power efficient card) from gigabyte (which supposedly has one of the best air coolers out there) throttles itself by -0.45v because of thermals.

 

Folding is cake compared to that. And GPUGrid, while worse than folding, really wasn't as bad, and I could even OC it.

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Have no problem with a R9 380 gigabyte Afterburner max fan speed an its sits lower than idle mode on temp45 degrees c  

 

 

SORRY tired temp is lower on full fan speed than idle no fan mode

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On 2/18/2016 at 1:25 PM, brandishwar said:

if you're going to be doing distributed computing on your GPU for any sustained period of time frequently, water cooling I think will be a basic requirement on that, even if it'll be a Kraken G10 with a Corsair H55

Thanks for the suggestion. With this in mind, I'll probably disable GPU computing until I do my next major upgrade. My rig is actually a rackmount workstation in a custom 2U case (it's a long story that I'll be detailing in a build log soon), so there's no space for radiators inside. :) 

 

The future seems bright with these USB C graphics card enclosures that came out at CES, though. Maybe I'll eventually make a watercooled external card solution! 

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4 hours ago, EdVentureTime said:

Thanks for the suggestion. With this in mind, I'll probably disable GPU computing until I do my next major upgrade. My rig is actually a rackmount workstation in a custom 2U case (it's a long story that I'll be detailing in a build log soon), so there's no space for radiators inside. :) 

 

The future seems bright with these USB C graphics card enclosures that came out at CES, though. Maybe I'll eventually make a watercooled external card solution! 

Something like this:

 

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