Confused

[ZeusXI]

Please do not judge my builds. 

I want to build a new rig (white and black theme) and put it all together here https://pchound.com/SFtBUL/ (no graphic card cause i have a GTX 960 4GB my friend gave to me)

Now. Im reading more and more on nex gen tech. AMD APU's tbh sound interesting and ive watched youtube with JayzTwoCents about the A10-7850k being able to play

Battlefield 4 on medium with 2400 RAM and get around 50-60FPS. so it got me really wondering, could the next gen APU which will have better built in graphics, along with

more cores and higher clock speed, actually be more useful in gaming? or should i stick with the current getup i posted above, or wait to see actually what APU come out? Cause im very interested if i can build a pc for cheaper (AMD) since i currently have an AMD rig.

 

Some of the main games I play, Battlefield 4, Star Citizen, Ark:Survival Evolved, Rise of the tomb raider (2015), and maybe in the future, a few other games like that.

 

 

All Games

Battlefield 4

Star Citizen

Ark: Survival Evovled

Rise of the Tomb Raider

The Forest

Terraria

Minecraft

Fallout 4

Dying Light

...and more soon hopefully

[dragoon20005]

to be frank

 

the APU looks good on paper when you compare the AMD iGPU vs Intel

 

but the iGPU are only great for 720P gaming

 

AMD can only pack 512 shader cores with the 4 physical cores of the CPU part

 

unless they employ the 14nm manufacturing process

 

it will still be the 4 CPU core and 8 GPU core combo for APU

[ZeusXI]

1 minute ago, dragoon20005 said:

to be frank

 

the APU looks good on paper when you compare the AMD iGPU vs Intel

 

but the iGPU are only great for 720P gaming

 

AMD can only pack 512 shader cores with the 4 physical cores of the CPU part

 

unless they employ the 14nm manufacturing process

 

it will still be the 4 CPU core and 8 GPU core combo for APU

What would you suggest? the build i put on pchound?

[dragoon20005]

1 minute ago, ZeusXI said:

What would you suggest? the build i put on pchound?

the i7 is not needed

 

drop to a i5 4690K

 

go for 2x8GB sticks instead of 4 sticks of 4GB

 

i wonder why is there 2 cases

 

add a 250GB SSD from Samsung

 

and change the PSU to a better power efficiency rating

 

something like the CoolerMaster VSM 550/650

 

 

[ZeusXI]

Just now, dragoon20005 said:

the i7 is not needed

 

drop to a i5 4690K

 

go for 2x8GB sticks instead of 4 sticks of 4GB

 

i wonder why is there 2 cases

 

add a 250GB SSD from Samsung

 

and change the PSU to a better power efficiency rating

 

something like the CoolerMaster VSM 550/650

 

 

2 cases because im still debating window or no window, and i already have a Samsung evo 850 pro in current rig. so ill be moving that over. and those 4 sticks, cause its what i have in my current rig.

[dragoon20005]

Just now, ZeusXI said:

2 cases because im still debating window or no window, and i already have a Samsung evo 850 pro in current rig. so ill be moving that over. and those 4 sticks, cause its what i have in my current rig.

I kinda like cases with window

 

you can run them but you will be limited if you want to upgrade to 32GB

 

 

[ZeusXI]

16GB is all I want. i dont think 32GB would ever be used unless I used a RAMdisk which i dont use even now

[ZeusXI]

Just now, ZeusXI said:

16GB is all I want. i dont think 32GB would ever be used unless I used a RAMdisk which i dont use even now

 

Just now, dragoon20005 said:

I kinda like cases with window

 

you can run them but you will be limited if you want to upgrade to 32GB

 

 

16GB is all I want. i dont think 32GB would ever be used unless I used a RAMdisk which i dont use even now

[alexc026]

If you want a cheap pc I'd recommend you get a regular CPU. I'd recommend the i5-6500 or fx-8350 and a dedicated GPU with an apu you can't upgrade just the graphics. Hypothetically if you got an apu and you wanted to upgrade the graphics you would have to buy a whole new apu. Also at this point in time apu are not worth the money. An i3-6100 and GTX 950 will cost around $285 usd an AMD A10-7870K (best apu available currently) costs $134 usd. The Intel CPU and GTX 950 gets around 47fps in battlefield 4 on ultra the apu gets around 25fps on ultra

The CPU and dedicated GPU offer upgradability and better performance but the apu delivers better fps per dollar 

CPU+GPU= $6.06 per frame

APU= $5.36 per frame

Overall the final decision is yours to make but I'd recommend the CPU and dedicated GPU.

[ZeusXI]

1 minute ago, alexc026 said:

If you want a cheap pc I'd recommend you get a regular CPU. I'd recommend the i5-6500 or fx-8350 and a dedicated GPU with an apu you can't upgrade just the graphics. Hypothetically if you got an apu and you wanted to upgrade the graphics you would have to buy a whole new apu. Also at this point in time apu are not worth the money. An i3-6100 and GTX 950 will cost around $285 usd an AMD A10-7870K (best apu available currently) costs $134 usd. The Intel CPU and GTX 950 gets around 47fps in battlefield 4 on ultra the apu gets around 25fps on ultra

The CPU and dedicated GPU offer upgradability and better performance but the apu delivers better fps per dollar 

CPU+GPU= $6.06 per frame

APU= $5.36 per frame

Overall the final decision is yours to make but I'd recommend the CPU and dedicated GPU.

I read somewhere you can add a dedicated GPU with an APU package and somehow making them run together, or just the GPU by itself. But thanks on the input. ill put that down in notes

[alexc026]

4 minutes ago, ZeusXI said:

I read somewhere you can add a dedicated GPU with an APU package and somehow making them run together, or just the GPU by itself. But thanks on the input. ill put that down in notes

That is called dual graphics and the highest end card you can run dual graphics in is the r7 250

also the reason to get a regular CPU is that if you don't run dual graphics and you add a dedicated GPU to the system most likely you will bottleneck the GPU because CPU cores won't be powerful enough to keep up with the GPU

[ZeusXI]

Just now, alexc026 said:

That is called dual graphics and the highest end card you can run dual graphics in is the r7 250

also the reason to get a regular CPU is that if you don't run dual graphics and you add a dedicated GPU to the system most likely you will bottleneck the GPU because CPU cores won't be powerful enough to keep up with the GPU

thats why i was thinking the I7. but I5 looks nice as well