New gpu=new psu

[Changrai]

My specs: https://gyazo.com/5baed8a122527642723b9377d9c26751

 

I'm not using that 670 i am going to get a new 970 this weekend.

 

budget is 120$

 

I have a 450w bronze xfx psu btw

 

 

[Dzzope]

WHat PSU do you have?

 

A 970 isn't going to draw more (or at least much more) than a 670..

[Dzzope]

If you really need the new PSU, just saw a bargain on an EVGA P2 750 W here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438057&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL020916&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL020916-_-EMC-020916-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-17438057-S2A3C

[Changrai]

3 minutes ago, Dzzope said:

WHat PSU do you have?

 

A 970 isn't going to draw more (or at least much more) than a 670..

I have a 450w bronze xfx

[Dzzope]

Your fine, xfx are seasonic based units and generally good design and build quality, your rig will run absolutely fine on it... a 5820k with 980 ti pulls less in game..

[Changrai]

2 minutes ago, Dzzope said:

Your fine, xfx are seasonic based units and generally good design and build quality, your rig will run absolutely fine on it... a 5820k with 980 ti pulls less in game..

wow really? i thought i needed like a 650w or something lmao but yeah tty

[Dzzope]

1 minute ago, Changrai said:

wow really? i thought i needed like a 650w or something lmao but yeah tty

Yea.. this is what this system uses (HWC test bench) You could even bump to maybe a nano or 980 with the extra budget.

 

 

 

 

Processor: Intel i7 4930K @ 4.7GHz
Memory: G.Skill Trident 16GB @ 2133MHz 10-10-12-29-1T
Motherboard: ASUS P9X79-E WS
Cooling: NH-U14S 
SSD: 2x Kingston HyperX 3K 480GB
Power Supply: Corsair AX1200
Monitor: Dell U2713HM (1440P) / ASUS PQ321Q (4K)
OS: Windows 8.1 Profession

 

System Power Consumption

For this test we hooked up our power supply to a UPM power meter that will log the power consumption of the whole system twice every second. In order to stress the GPU as much as possible we used 15 minutes of Unigine Valley running on a loop while letting the card sit at a stable Windows desktop for 15 minutes to determine the peak idle power consumption.

 

[monjanger]

2 minutes ago, Changrai said:

wow really? i thought i needed like a 650w or something lmao but yeah tty

You can get away with a 450W PSU, but I would recommend the upgrade. On EVGA's page, they recommend a 600W for a 980Ti. 

 

Plus, following Luke's latest workshop video, there is no point in not getting an overkill PSU. I mean they are future proof, usually more efficient, offer more cables, and plenty of benefits. 

[Dzzope]

8 minutes ago, monjanger said:

You can get away with a 450W PSU, but I would recommend the upgrade. On EVGA's page, they recommend a 600W for a 980Ti. 

 

Plus, following Luke's latest workshop video, there is no point in not getting an overkill PSU. I mean they are future proof, usually more efficient, offer more cables, and plenty of benefits. 

But the 450w is fine and he already has it... A 6 core overclocked rig with a 980ti running stress tests doesn't pull too much for that psu (though I wouldn't run it that high 24/7)

 mean worst case scenario it'll use 100W for the CPU as seen here: (allow even 50 for OC)

 

A 970 uses about 160 stock, say 200 oc'd.. thats still only 300 - 350W load on an overclocked system while being stress tested.. ie worst case it pulls 350W..

 

 

 

Manufacturers have to advise on a worst case of crappy psu and inefficient pc to advise you on the wattage.. don't trust it. Put the psu money into the gpu or the bank for your next upgrade.

[STRMfrmXMN]

58 minutes ago, Changrai said:

wow really? i thought i needed like a 650w or something lmao but yeah tty

650W could power nearly 4 970s if you don't overclock them

[turkey3_scratch]

37 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

650W could power nearly 4 970s if you don't overclock them

That's a major exaggeration. A 970 under a torture test can draw about 200W (note I said stress test not gaming conditions). 4 of them - 800W. So unless the PSU is extremely under-specified, no it cannot. It'll burn or shut off.

[STRMfrmXMN]

12 minutes ago, turkey3_scratch said:

That's a major exaggeration. A 970 under a torture test can draw about 200W (note I said stress test not gaming conditions). 4 of them - 800W. So unless the PSU is extremely under-specified, no it cannot. It'll burn or shut off.

I have facts: 3 980s and a highly overclocked 3960X hitting less than 600W

 

As I said, 4 un-overclocked 970s would come very close to working on a 650W PSU

[turkey3_scratch]

14 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

I have facts: 3 980s and a highly overclocked 3960X hitting less than 600W

 

As I said, 4 un-overclocked 970s would come very close to working on a 650W PSU

Go on any Tomshardware review of the 970 or 980 and under stress they, not the whole system but the GPU itself, will draw 200W or more. From there it's simple multiplication, and a "650W" PSU can be anything, rated wattage doesn't mean anything other than just a label. Power supplies can be overdrawn to 110% of their rated values or higher, which often produces not so pretty ripple and noise. So yeah, it can work on a PSU that maybe doesn't have proper protections that shut it off in time.

[Unhelpful]

30 minutes ago, turkey3_scratch said:

That's a major exaggeration. A 970 under a torture test can draw about 200W (note I said stress test not gaming conditions). 4 of them - 800W. So unless the PSU is extremely under-specified, no it cannot. It'll burn or shut off.

No it actually isn't an exaggeration. People just like to drastically over-estimate power-draw.

[Unhelpful]

3 minutes ago, turkey3_scratch said:

Go on any Tomshardware review of the 970 or 980 and under stress they, not the whole system but the GPU itself, will draw 200W or more. From there it's simple multiplication, and a "650W" PSU can be anything, rated wattage doesn't mean anything other than just a label. Power supplies can be overdrawn to 110% of their rated values or higher, which often produces not so pretty ripple and noise. So yeah, it can work on a PSU that maybe doesn't have proper protections that shut it off in time.

He's obviously referring to a good 650w PSU.

 

EVGA P2 650W, for example.

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 minute ago, turkey3_scratch said:

Go on any Tomshardware review of the 970 or 980 and under stress they, not the whole system but the GPU itself, will draw 200W or more. From there it's simple multiplication, and a "650W" PSU can be anything, rated wattage doesn't mean anything other than just a label. Power supplies can be overdrawn to 110% of their rated values or higher, which often produces not so pretty ripple and noise. So yeah, it can work on a PSU that maybe doesn't have proper protections that shut it off in time.

Tom's Hardware using rough calculation of wall power with all that efficiency calculation stuff thrown in to estimate the TDP's accuracy rather than how much power the entire system would actually use. Not sure if that makes sense the way I wrote that. Nonetheless, the entire system, consisting of a 3960X and 3 GTX 980s hit 589W under peak load. Adding another card in there and putting a regular CPU like, say, an i5, would yield results pretty close to 650W.

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5 minutes ago, turkey3_scratch said:

Go on any Tomshardware review of the 970 or 980 and under stress they, not the whole system but the GPU itself, will draw 200W or more. From there it's simple multiplication, and a "650W" PSU can be anything, rated wattage doesn't mean anything other than just a label. Power supplies can be overdrawn to 110% of their rated values or higher, which often produces not so pretty ripple and noise. So yeah, it can work on a PSU that maybe doesn't have proper protections that shut it off in time.

Also there's a tier list that many forum members already use, let's try to avoid confusing people by having them look for @Aniallation's and finding yours, or vise-versa. 

 

 

I'd suggest contributing to that one instead of making a new one.

 

It has some issues, but it's better to help fix them by contributing, rather than making one from scratch.

[turkey3_scratch]

17 minutes ago, JoeyDM said:

Also there's a tier list that many forum members already use, let's try to avoid confusing people by having them look for @Aniallation's and finding yours, or vise-versa. 

 

 

I'd suggest contributing to that one instead of making a new one.

 

It has some issues, but it's better to help fix them by contributing, rather than making one from scratch.

That has nothing to do with this topic at all. As long as I can legally have my tier list, I shall.

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1 minute ago, turkey3_scratch said:

That has nothing to do with this topic at all.

Sorry, just a suggestion

[turkey3_scratch]

4 minutes ago, JoeyDM said:

Sorry, just a suggestion

Okay