$1000 Gaming Pc

[2_minute_n00dle5]

Help please. Lately my brother's pc has been dying and I'm planning on getting him a new pc. Although the budget isn't very large a PC with an i7 and at least a GTX 970 or better. I know this isn't really needed but that would be better. I already have a case and peripherals so all I need is the PC with wifi. Once again I know that I don't need a i7 OR a GTX 970 but anyone who helps please just try to make it work. Thanks!

[Curufinwe_wins]

4 minutes ago, 2_minute_n00dle5 said:

Help please. Lately my brother's pc has been dying and I'm planning on getting him a new pc. Although the budget isn't very large a PC with an i7 and at least a GTX 970 or better. I know this isn't really needed but that would be better. I already have a case and peripherals so all I need is the PC with wifi. Once again I know that I don't need a i7 OR a GTX 970 but anyone who helps please just try to make it work. Thanks!

Budget? And does he already have an SSD?

[Curufinwe_wins]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($86.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Patriot Blast 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($57.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  ($283.98 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($29.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $843.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-02 01:26 EST-0500

 

 

Obviously I don't know if the case supports the cooler, but the 390 is a notably better gpu than the 970.

[TheGeeker]

3 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($86.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Patriot Blast 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($57.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  ($283.98 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($29.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $843.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-02 01:26 EST-0500

 

 

Obviously I don't know if the case supports the cooler, but the 390 is a notably better gpu than the 970.

BUT BUT BUT NIVIDIA!!!!! Lol JK. Maybe add an HDD? Also look around and maybe get a 4770k for cheaper. They are basically the same. 

[Curufinwe_wins]

Just now, TheGeeker said:

BUT BUT BUT NIVIDIA!!!!! Lol JK. Maybe add an HDD? Also look around and maybe get a 4770k for cheaper. They are basically the same. 

Yea don't buy a 4770k. Ever.

I made the assumption he already had an HDD, but obviously there is room to spare.

[TheGeeker]

Just now, Curufinwe_wins said:

Yea don't buy a 4770k. Ever.

I made the assumption he already had an HDD, but obviously there is room to spare.

What is wrong with the 4770k? Over clock it to 4.5 and they are really close to identical. 

[Curufinwe_wins]

Just now, TheGeeker said:

What is wrong with the 4770k? Over clock it to 4.5 and they are really close to identical. 

It runs insanely hotter due to arguably the worst TIM intel has ever used, it uses a significantly lower quality FIVR that limits overclocking (and sometimes even stock stability), and finally even if your Vccin doesn't become an issue, Haswell on the 4770k is just straight up worse top end in every way compare to the 4790k (which is to be expected as a node matures, just like second gen Hawaii or the 7970 etc).

If you want to try to find a good deal on a used cpu cool, but get a 4790k instead.

 

See how there are way more regulators on the chip?

[Bl00dgod]

if you dont need to render or video edit you wont benefit from the I7

better go with an i5 then like i5 4690k instead of the devils canyon they're like 99% same in most game performance AFAIK

or the xeon 1231v3 ( similar to devils canyon without integrated graphics ) and cheap

and the 970 is nice but even as a member of team green i 'd say get an team red card for better performance for the money

read the signature link bob jim did a nice lineup nvidia vs amd cards for different budgets

[TheGeeker]

1 minute ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

It runs insanely hotter due to arguably the worst TIM intel has ever used, it uses a significantly lower quality FIVR that limits overclocking (and sometimes even stock stability), and finally even if your Vccin doesn't become an issue, Haswell on the 4770k is just straight up worse top end in every way compare to the 4790k (which is to be expected as a node matures, just like second gen Hawaii or the 7970 etc).

If you want to try to find a good deal on a used cpu cool, but get a 4790k instead.

 

See how there are way more regulators on the chip?

Yep! Thanks very interesting and informative. Did not know! 

[Curufinwe_wins]

1 minute ago, Bl00dgod said:

if you dont need to render or video edit you wont benefit from the I7

better go with an i5 then like i5 4690k instead of the devils canyon they're like 99% same in most game performance AFAIK

and the 970 is nice but even as a member of team green i 'd say get an team red card for better performance for the money

read the signature link bob jim did a nice lineup nvidia vs amd cards for different budgets

There are notable differences in recent games even with hardware as low as a 380/960. This difference will only increase over time as games become more and more multithreaded.

If the difference between the i5 and i7 is the difference between a large jump in gpu, then obviously go for the gpu, but as the budget given fits both cpu and gpu easily, it makes a great deal of sense to go for the i7 imho.

[JanFrode]

Just now, Curufinwe_wins said:

There are notable differences in recent games even with hardware as low as a 380/960. This difference will only increase over time as games become more and more multithreaded.

If the difference between the i5 and i7 is the difference between a large jump in gpu, then obviously go for the gpu, but as the budget given fits both cpu and gpu easily, it makes a great deal of sense to go for the i7 imho.

Why not go for the Intel Xeon E3-1231v3, that's like the same as the 4770k, but without the iGPU ain't it? And it's alot cheaper at that.

[stconquest]

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($87.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($322.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1026.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-02 01:47 EST-0500

[Curufinwe_wins]

1 hour ago, JanFrode said:

Why not go for the Intel Xeon E3-1231v3, that's like the same as the 4770k, but without the iGPU ain't it? And it's alot cheaper at that.

Because there is lots of extra budget anyways... And you never notice how much you miss onboard video until you don't have it.

 

[JanFrode]

21 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Because there is lots of extra budget anyways... And you never notice how much you miss onboard video until you don't have it.

 

Never been in that position that I've needed it tbh
But I see your point, but I wouldn't know if let's say 150 USD extra is worth it

[Curufinwe_wins]

1 minute ago, JanFrode said:

Never been in that position that I've needed it tbh
But I see your point, but I wouldn't know if let's say 150 USD extra is worth it

Diagnosing a non-post on a motherboard without post codes is another level of annoying without an igpu.

Assuming you don't live in an area where you can get it for 300 USD or less (while it's up to 299 atm at microcenter, not even two months ago they were selling there for 249.99)