First time buying a CPU

[HCPS123]

Hello everyone I'm HC, and I'm new here to the forum so I apologize in advance if I've already accidentally messed something up   Anyway I'm getting more into both PC gaming and Cyber Security work so I thought it was time I finally built my own desktop computer.  Not only would that hopefully allow me to get the best possible computer I can afford but it would teach me a lot about PC hardware, information I should know if I want to get more serious in a future career in Cyber Security.

 

With that being said I'm still pretty new to all of this and I was told this forum was a great place to get help with recommendations for CPUs.  I plan on doing both a lot of gaming and Cyber Security work on my new computer, so I'm looking to build a machine that's both fast and great with multitasking since I like to bounce around between different tasks.  I'm not too concern with costs, I mean I don't want to get too insane here with price, I do want to get the best value for my money after all, but I'm more concern with quality then savings.

 

After doing my research I believe that the Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5 GHz LGA 2011-V3 Processor is the best bet for me but I want to hear what the community thinks.  Also I've heard from some people that I might be better off getting a Skylake instead since that's the latest tech.  I know that Skylake is faster but I can't find any Skylake model with 6 cores (I might be wrong on this but I feel anything less then 6 cores is going to cause problems for my machine when I start running programs like Virtual Machine, Hitman Pro, Firefox etc.) which is why I'm still leaning towards the 5930K.

 

Any input would be appreciated thank you

[Kyzer]

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i7-5930k is overkill if you're not doing multiple GPU's. Get the i7-5820k.

 

If you're doing games, any i5 is fine. Generally unless you're doing work that's amazingly CPU intensive, any i5 will do. Hyperthreading is pretty useless is a lot of scenarios.

 

EDIT: If you need maximum multi-tasking speed but don't want to pay a fortune, FX-8350.

If you need just a little bit more than a quad core, get an i7-4790k/i7-6700k.

If you really, really, really need 6 cores and 12 threads, i7-5820k.

[toogamer]

The 5920k is essentially the same CPU, but with less PCIe lanes, also skylake wouldn't be that much of an improvement and a 6 core from the last generation beats any new skylake with 4 cores.

[tbroadwater2010]

Hello everyone I'm HC, and I'm new here to the forum so I apologize in advance if I've already accidentally messed something up   Anyway I'm getting more into both PC gaming and Cyber Security work so I thought it was time I finally built my own desktop computer.  Not only would that hopefully allow me to get the best possible computer I can afford but it would teach me a lot about PC hardware, information I should know if I want to get more serious in a future career in Cyber Security.

 

With that being said I'm still pretty new to all of this and I was told this forum was a great place to get help with recommendations for CPUs.  I plan on doing both a lot of gaming and Cyber Security work on my new computer, so I'm looking to build a machine that's both fast and great with multitasking since I like to bounce around between different tasks.  I'm not too concern with costs, I mean I don't want to get too insane here with price, I do want to get the best value for my money after all, but I'm more concern with quality then savings.

 

After doing my research I believe that the Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5 GHz LGA 2011-V3 Processor is the best bet for me but I want to hear what the community thinks.  Also I've heard from some people that I might be better off getting a Skylake instead since that's the latest tech.  I know that Skylake is faster but I can't find any Skylake model with 6 cores (I might be wrong on this but I feel anything less then 6 cores is going to cause problems for my machine when I start running programs like Virtual Machine, Hitman Pro, Firefox etc.) which is why I'm still leaning towards the 5930K.

 

Any input would be appreciated thank you

Welcome to the forum!

 

The good thing about getting an i7 is Hyperthreading. Your 6 core processor you chose will essentially have 6 physical and 6 virtual cores giving you a total of 12 cores. The skylake i7 is a physical 4 core processor with 4 cores hyperthreaded, giving you 8 total cores.

 

SOOOOOOO. That being said, getting a Skylake i7 6700k would be a good option for something that is the newest out! And its a bit less than the 6700k. The 5930k is WAY MORE POWERFUL though. 

[Stardar1]

Hello everyone I'm HC, and I'm new here to the forum so I apologize in advance if I've already accidentally messed something up   Anyway I'm getting more into both PC gaming and Cyber Security work so I thought it was time I finally built my own desktop computer.  Not only would that hopefully allow me to get the best possible computer I can afford but it would teach me a lot about PC hardware, information I should know if I want to get more serious in a future career in Cyber Security.

 

With that being said I'm still pretty new to all of this and I was told this forum was a great place to get help with recommendations for CPUs.  I plan on doing both a lot of gaming and Cyber Security work on my new computer, so I'm looking to build a machine that's both fast and great with multitasking since I like to bounce around between different tasks.  I'm not too concern with costs, I mean I don't want to get too insane here with price, I do want to get the best value for my money after all, but I'm more concern with quality then savings.

 

After doing my research I believe that the Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5 GHz LGA 2011-V3 Processor is the best bet for me but I want to hear what the community thinks.  Also I've heard from some people that I might be better off getting a Skylake instead since that's the latest tech.  I know that Skylake is faster but I can't find any Skylake model with 6 cores (I might be wrong on this but I feel anything less then 6 cores is going to cause problems for my machine when I start running programs like Virtual Machine, Hitman Pro, Firefox etc.) which is why I'm still leaning towards the 5930K.

 

Any input would be appreciated thank you

If having  cores is valuale to you, you are right to go with Haswell-E instead of Skylake. 

 

However, the 5930k is not worth the extra $200 over the 5820k. 

 

Motherboards for this socket are quite pricey. 

 

I can help you design a whole build if you like. 

 

Also, welcome to the forum! remember to follow your topics, use http://pcpartpicker.com/ when applicable and check out the CoC.

[HCPS123]

Thank you so much for the help and advice everyone!!!

 

So everyone seems to be in agreement that while getting a Skylake has it's advantages, the 5930K is way more powerful overall then the current Skylakes on the market.

 

So Kyzer, toogamer and Stardar1 have all recommended that I go with the 5820K.

 

Comparing the 5930K and the 5820K, the main differences I've found is that the 5820K is about 200 dollars cheaper but it also has the slower frequency of 3.3ghz to 3.6ghz compared to 5930K's 3.5ghz to 3.7ghz.

 

I didn't want to get a CPU with a frequency below 3.5ghz but then again these two are really close and I'm not sure if 200 dollars is justify in a .2ghz frequency increased.

 

I've also heard that the 5930K has more PCIs but I'm not exactly sure what those are.  I think it relates to graphics cards but I haven't gotten to GPUs yet in my research/buying process so I don't know how important those are.

 

Also I have never Overcloaked before and from what I heard if you do it wrong you can blow up your whole computer which terrifies me so I'm not sure if that's something I want to even think about

 

So any help the forum can give me would be greatly appreciated

 

I can help you design a whole build if you like. 

 

Also, welcome to the forum! remember to follow your topics, use http://pcpartpicker.com/ when applicable and check out the CoC.

 

Sure!  I would love any help you can give me!!   Although I have to tell you that I want to become a more informed PC person.  Like I don't want to be told (Oh, buy part A, then part B then C etc and now you have a powerful machine).  I want to be able to know why I should buy part A. over part A.2; what are things I should look at when buying CPUs, motherboards, RAMs, GPUs etc.  If I'm going to have a career in Cyber Security I should be able to make such recommendations myself.

 

With that being said I did checkout the pcpartpicker, and I have no idea what CoC is.

 

In advance I just want to thank everyone again for help.

[incarnate]

Thank you so much for the help and advice everyone!!!

So everyone seems to be in agreement that while getting a Skylake has it's advantages, the 5930K is way more powerful overall then the current Skylakes on the market.

So Kyzer, toogamer and Stardar1 have all recommended that I go with the 5820K.

Comparing the 5930K and the 5820K, the main differences I've found is that the 5820K is about 200 dollars cheaper but it also has the slower frequency of 3.3ghz to 3.6ghz compared to 5930K's 3.5ghz to 3.7ghz.

I didn't want to get a CPU with a frequency below 3.5ghz but then again these two are really close and I'm not sure if 200 dollars is justify in a .2ghz frequency increased.

I've also heard that the 5930K has more PCIs but I'm not exactly sure what those are. I think it relates to graphics cards but I haven't gotten to GPUs yet in my research/buying process so I don't know how important those are.

Also I have never Overcloaked before and from what I heard if you do it wrong you can blow up your whole computer which terrifies me so I'm not sure if that's something I want to even think about

So any help the forum can give me would be greatly appreciated

Sure! I would love any help you can give me!! Although I have to tell you that I want to become a more informed PC person. Like I don't want to be told (Oh, buy part A, then part B then C etc and now you have a powerful machine). I want to be able to know why I should buy part A. over part A.2; what are things I should look at when buying CPUs, motherboards, RAMs, GPUs etc. If I'm going to have a career in Cyber Security I should be able to make such recommendations myself.

With that being said I did checkout the pcpartpicker, and I have no idea what CoC is.

In advance I just want to thank everyone again for help.

Well, clockspeed doesn't matter as much as you think it does. 300 mhz is absolutely tiny and you'd never be able to notice the difference in actual use except when running a process that takes hours, and even then you'd only save around ten minutes at best.

Now, overclocking is not that hard. All you need to do is a bit of research. This forum will be happy to help you. You can get the 5820k to 4.0ghz easily with very little risk.

Pcie lanes are channels that the pcie slots use to transfer data. The max a slot can use is 16. Graphics cards use 16, most others use 4. Even if you're gonna run two cards, you'll be fine as they will use 8 each if you only have 20 lanes.

Hope this helps

[HCPS123]

Incarnate thank you so much for the advice and help   I think you and the rest of the forum have talked me into going with the 5820k   I think I might even give overcloaking a look into once I finish deciding on what parts to go for on my computer build.

[bomerr]

Incarnate thank you so much for the advice and help   I think you and the rest of the forum have talked me into going with the 5820k   I think I might even give overcloaking a look into once I finish deciding on what parts to go for on my computer build.

I have a 5820K, would definitely recommend overclocking it. If you can wait a few months then maybe get the Broadwell-e version instead. 

 

Other options are i5-6600k and i7-6700k. 6700k is better if you don't overclock but it's even more expensive than the 5820k. 6600k is a lot cheaper good for a more mid-range build. 

[HCPS123]

Bomerr; I didn't want to go with the anything less then 6 cores because I plan on doing a lot of multitasking work on this computer.  Did you think the 5820k is a good processor, do you regret buying it?   Also what is the Broadwell-e version?  I've never heard of this before.

[incarnate]

Bomerr; I didn't want to go with the anything less then 6 cores because I plan on doing a lot of multitasking work on this computer. Did you think the 5820k is a good processor, do you regret buying it? Also what is the Broadwell-e version? I've never heard of this before.

The 5820k is haswell-e, broadwell-e is the next architecture in that line, so it would be 6820k for example. It won't be a huge step up from the 5820k, but it will be a bit better, nothing major though. If you can wait, you might as well wait and see. If you want a system right now, the 5820k is a beast. Cpu performance doesn't go up by huge amounts in one generation.

[HCPS123]

The 5820k is haswell-e, broadwell-e is the next architecture in that line, so it would be 6820k for example. It won't be a huge step up from the 5820k, but it will be a bit better, nothing major though. If you can wait, you might as well wait and see. If you want a system right now, the 5820k is a beast. Cpu performance doesn't go up by huge amounts in one generation.

 

Well considering I wasn't planning on getting all of these parts until much later in the year I can wait   Thank you very much on the tip, do you have any idea when the broadwell-e is coming out?

[bomerr]

Q2 2016 is expected release of Broadwell-E. Biggest change will most likely be energy efficiency. 

 

As for my 5820k, I got no regrets. It's an absolute beast and completely overkill for my gaming rig.  Max load I've seen in pure gaming is 50% overall / 70% on a single thread. And DX12 will fix even out the load between all threads so that'll add a lot of extra headroom. Upgrading to 4K will further extend the life-cycle. So I think it's easily last another 3 years and maybe even 5 until it's time to upgrade. 

[incarnate]

Well considering I wasn't planning on getting all of these parts until much later in the year I can wait Thank you very much on the tip, do you have any idea when the broadwell-e is coming out?

No problem at all. It'll probably come out around June, but that's just a guess

[HCPS123]

Thanks Incarnate and Bomerr!  I'll definitely keep a look out for the broadwell-e then!