i5 6500

[Ike2070]

Hello guys! I'm planning to do my first build and I've been looking for a budget CPU and I found the i5 6500. Is this CPU good? I know its locked and I can't overclock it, but eventually I will buy a new one that can (like the 6600k for example). 

 

My pc will be purely for gaming (getting a R9 390, one monitor, 1080p). Shall I get this CPU or should I go the 4th gen CPU route (i5 4690k, different mobo and DDR3).

[Kobathor]

i5-4690k. Cheaper memory, cheaper mobos.

[yourdad165]

i5-4690k. Cheaper memory, cheaper mobos.

 

This ^ but if you really want to use Skylake I'd say go for it but don't worry about overclocking. Realistically it doesn't make much of a difference performance wise. It is more so for showing off benchmarking scores.

[Ike2070]

i5-4690k. Cheaper memory, cheaper mobos.

 

 

This ^ but if you really want to use Skylake I'd say go for it but don't worry about overclocking. Realistically it doesn't make much of a difference performance wise. It is more so for showing off benchmarking scores.

 

The main issue for me is that both platforms are around the same price in my country D: (the skylake CPU is actually cheaper, while the MOBO and RAMS are around the same price point [2133mhz DDR3 - 2133mhz DDR4]). 

[yourdad165]

The main issue for me is that both platforms are around the same price in my country D: (the skylake CPU is actually cheaper, while the MOBO and RAMS are around the same price [1333mhz DDR3 - 2133mhz DDR4]). 

 

Well if you go with Skylake you probably won't even end up wanting to overclock. Like I said though it really doesn't make a big difference (it's kind of just for fun).

[Crowes]

i5-4690k. Cheaper memory, cheaper mobos.

 

I can safely assume socket 1150 won't be vanishing any time soon, but how future-proof in comparison is the 1151 socket?

[App4that]

Well if you go with Skylake you probably won't even end up wanting to overclock. Like I said though it really doesn't make a big difference (it's kind of just for fun).

I don't know who told you overclocking doesn't impact performance but they did you a disservice. Overclocking has a major impact on performance in game for an i5. i5's live on single core speed and that improves with overclocking. So you see an improvement in fps.

[Hiebly]

This ^ but if you really want to use Skylake I'd say go for it but don't worry about overclocking. Realistically it doesn't make much of a difference performance wise. It is more so for showing off benchmarking scores.

 

I overclocked my CPU today from 3.5GHz (3.8GHz turbo) to 4.2GHz and I've already noticed an increase to my minimum FPS in GTA V and Battlefield 4... I guess if you don't play at very high framerates (for example if you just max everything out or play at high res for like 30-60 FPS) then OCing the CPU won't matter much

[App4that]

I can safely assume socket 1150 won't be vanishing any time soon, but how future-proof in comparison is the 1151 socket?

There is no such thing as future proof, best never to use that phrase.

[MrBucket101]

I don't know who told you overclocking doesn't impact performance but they did you a disservice. Overclocking has a major impact on performance in game for an i5. i5's live on single core speed and that improves with overclocking. So you see an improvement in fps.

 

barely, you'll get more tangible results overclocking the GPU instead

[Crowes]

There is no such thing as future proof, best never to use that phrase.

I can understand. Better to focus on lifespan of a build, eh? Or no?

[App4that]

I can understand. Better to focus on lifespan of a build, eh? Or no?

I built my rig in August of this year, at that time if you asked what was the best CPU for gaming the consensus would have been a 4690k. Witcher 3 already showed an improvement with a i7, but that was one game right? Now Fallout shows huge improvements when using a i7.

There is no way to know what will be need in the next few months, let alone the next few years. DX12 could make the CPU irrelevant and place all the instance back on the GPU, and have a new generation of GPUs what is needed. Or the trend continues and more than 4 threads are needed for minimum settings alone.

No such thing as future proof.

[App4that]

barely, you'll get more tangible results overclocking the GPU instead

No, not from my experience. What matters with the games coming out lately to keep minimum fps in check is CPU core speed. When my fps crash in Fallout 4 my GPU is at 60%, how exactly will overclocking the GPU cure that?

[Ike2070]

I built my rig in August of this year, at that time if you asked what was the best CPU for gaming the consensus would have been a 4690k. Witcher 3 already showed an improvement with a i7, but that was one game right? Now Fallout shows huge improvements when using a i7.

There is no way to know what will be need in the next few months, let alone the next few years. DX12 could make the CPU irrelevant and place all the instance back on the GPU, and have a new generation of GPUs what is needed. Or the trend continues and more than 4 threads are needed for minimum settings alone.

No such thing as future proof.

 

So what should I get then? D: the 4690k with what kind of memory? Planning to play witcher 3, shadow of mordor, and all the AAA stuff. 

[App4that]

So what should I get then? D: the 4690k with what kind of memory? Planning to play witcher 3, shadow of mordor, and all the AAA stuff.

You get what ever you can get the best deal on. For Witcher you want a i7 and at least a 390. My i5 runs Witcher 3 at ultra settings but only when Overclocked to 4.6GHz.

[Crowes]

There is no way to know what will be need in the next few months, let alone the next few years. DX12 could make the CPU irrelevant and place all the instance back on the GPU, and have a new generation of GPUs what is needed. Or the trend continues and more than 4 threads are needed for minimum settings alone.

No such thing as future proof.

 

I can't deny that. Perhaps I'm using the wrong term to say, "[This hardware] will allow for [this change in requirement]", but I feel it only fits things like motherboards (new socket types will have the next few sets of CPUs released on them - will intel use 1150 anymore?).

[yourdad165]

I don't know who told you overclocking doesn't impact performance but they did you a disservice. Overclocking has a major impact on performance in game for an i5. i5's live on single core speed and that improves with overclocking. So you see an improvement in fps.

 

 

I overclocked my CPU today from 3.5GHz (3.8GHz turbo) to 4.2GHz and I've already noticed an increase to my minimum FPS in GTA V and Battlefield 4... I guess if you don't play at very high framerates (for example if you just max everything out or play at high res for like 30-60 FPS) then OCing the CPU won't matter much

 

Yeah but given the fact that he is already going to be running a high-end system it will not matter because his FPS will already likely be 60+. I know overclocking does technically increase performance (it is increasing the clock speed after all).

[App4that]

I can't deny that. Perhaps I'm using the wrong term to say, "[This hardware] will allow for [this change in requirement]", but I feel it only fits things like motherboards (new socket types will have the next few sets of CPUs released on them - will intel use 1150 anymore?).

I can upgrade, going to get a 4790k next month. Future proof is how they keep you buying something just because it's new.

[App4that]

Yeah but given the fact that he is already going to be running a high-end system it will not matter because his FPS will already likely be 60+. I know overclocking does technically increase performance (it is increasing the clock speed after all).

You didn't read.

You can have 980ti's in SLI, if you don't have a CPU able to keep up they won't give you 60fps in any game. Overclocking the CPU has an impact on minimum fps, which is the most important measure of fps.

[MrBucket101]

You didn't read.

You can have 980ti's in SLI, if you don't have a CPU able to keep up they won't give you 60fps in any game. Overclocking the CPU has an impact on minimum fps, which is the most important measure of fps.

low-end non k SKU i5's are enough to keep up with 980ti's in SLI 

 

overclocking is pretty much dead from a performance standpoint. Sure you can get 15% more performance, but look at it realistically. Is an extra 5fps really worth the time and hassle messing with it?

Not advocating against it. I've got my system overclocked up to 4.7ghz. Doesn't make a bit of difference in the games I play. I did it for the challenge, and cause it was fun. Not because I needed more power.

[App4that]

low-end non k SKU i5's are enough to keep up with 980ti's in SLI

overclocking is pretty much dead from a performance standpoint. Sure you can get 15% more performance, but look at it realistically. Is an extra 5fps really worth the time and hassle messing with it?

Not advocating against it. I've got my system overclocked up to 4.7ghz. Doesn't make a bit of difference in the games I play. I did it for the challenge, and cause it was fun. Not because I needed more power.

Your information is out of date. Witcher 3, GTA V, Fallout 4, all show major improvement going from a i5 to a i7. Fallout 4 shows the most improvement. Digital Foundry showed a 4690k when Overclocked at least tries to keep up but at stock speed falls on its face.