Do E3's support TSX-NI?

[Kyzer]

I read something on Wikipedia that it was disabled for Haswell CPU's. It is not available on i3/i5/i7, but Ark says it's available for e3. Is it still available for e3 or is it disabled like the rest?

[The Official Czex]

It is enabled on Xeon E3' s, but I believe there is a bug that won't be fixed until Broadwell-E. Some firmware issue I think? I'll look into it...

 

EDIT: You might need a micro patch for it. It is labeled as "microcode.dat". It is unlikely you'll find the proper one for your CPU; many are having issues with this.

[Kyzer]

It is enabled on Xeon E3' s, but I believe there is a bug that won't be fixed until Broadwell-E. Some firmware issue I think? I'll look into it...

 

EDIT: You might need a micro patch for it. It is labeled as "microcode.dat". It is unlikely you'll find the proper one for your CPU; many are having issues with this.

Micro patch?

[The Official Czex]

Micro patch?

 

TSX can be re-enabled through the BIOS/firmware menu should the motherboard manufacturer decide to expose it to the user. A micro patch could be required for such function. 

[Kyzer]

TSX can be re-enabled through the BIOS/firmware menu should the motherboard manufacturer decide to expose it to the user. A micro patch could be required for such function. 

I looked on Ark. It has updates for Linux, but not for Windows and Mac.

 

Would it be worth buying an e3 just for TSX-NI, or would it be smarter to buy an i7?

I do some compiling and video editing once in a while, mostly playing games... TSX-NI can be useful for multi-threading, since it doesn't have a core block another core, but...

 

Are these micropatches done by BIOS updates via the manufacturer? If so, then I guess it's not much of an issue... (as long as it gets fixed)

[The Official Czex]

I looked on Ark. It has updates for Linux, but not for Windows and Mac.

 

Would it be worth buying an e3 just for TSX-NI, or would it be smarter to buy an i7?

I do some compiling and video editing once in a while, mostly playing games... TSX-NI can be useful for multi-threading, since it doesn't have a core block another core, but...

 

Are these micropatches done by BIOS updates via the manufacturer? If so, then I guess it's not much of an issue... (as long as it gets fixed)

 

They are typically done through BIOS updates. I think an i7 would be fine, though... If it's not that much of a concern?

[Kyzer]

They are typically done through BIOS updates. I think an i7 would be fine, though... If it's not that much of a concern?

An i7 would be cheaper as of right now, but it lacks that TSX-NI support, which supposedly makes multi-threading a lot faster by allowing all CPU's to work at once without causing one to block another by RAM access... I guess this would make compiling and rendering faster, right? Might make games faster too, but that kind of depends on their multi-threading...

[The Official Czex]

An i7 would be cheaper as of right now, but it lacks that TSX-NI support, which supposedly makes multi-threading a lot faster by allowing all CPU's to work at once without causing one to block another by RAM access... I guess this would make compiling and rendering faster, right? Might make games faster too, but that kind of depends on their multi-threading...

 

It would also hinge on your RAM speed and capacity.

[Kyzer]

It would also hinge on your RAM speed and capacity.

What speed should that be at?

 

About what capacity as well?

[The Official Czex]

What speed should that be at?

 

About what capacity as well?

 

Are you planning an X99, Z170, or Z97 build with an i7?

[Kyzer]

Are you planning an X99, Z170, or Z97 build with an i7?

Z170 scores lower than Haswell cores.

X99 would be the best for editing and rendering, but its expensive.

Z97 is capable of doing everything, from server use to personal use.

 

I'm choosing between a 4790 and a e3-1246. Maybe 4790k, maybe e3-1276.

[The Official Czex]

Z170 scores lower than Haswell cores.

X99 would be the best for editing and rendering, but its expensive.

Z97 is capable of doing everything, from server use to personal use.

 

I'm choosing between a 4790 and a e3-1246. Maybe 4790k, maybe e3-1276.

 

Can you do a 6700K or 5820K build? The DDR4 RAM support is a plus. I'd recommend the 5820K build because plus two cores.

[Kyzer]

Can you do a 6700K or 5820K build? The DDR4 RAM support is a plus. I'd recommend the 5820K build because plus two cores.

I do recording too, quick sync would be better than two extra cores, since it's not affecting much performance...

 

2 cores/4 threads more is nice and all, but that won't alleviate any lag coming from H.264 encoding, will it? It will be spread out more, but games using the first couple of cores could have their FPS lowered quite a bit...

[The Official Czex]

I do recording too, quick sync would be better than two extra cores, since it's not affecting much performance...

 

2 cores/4 threads more is nice and all, but that won't alleviate any lag coming from H.264 encoding, will it? It will be spread out more, but games using the first couple of cores could have their FPS lowered quite a bit...

 

Alright... I suggest a 6700K build with 32GB of DDR$ @ 3200MHz (G.Skill TridentZ offers this at a reasonable price). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231915

[Kyzer]

Haha, $300 for ram?

I would barely pay $100 for 16gb in quad

I'm not doing 4k, it's 720/1080

Id much rather spend the money on a sound card.

Edit: I think I'd rather give up on skylake, it's overpriced to hell. It performs worse than a 4790k but only slightly, and costs $120 more.

5820k, 4790k, 4790, or e3-1246

[Kyzer]

Alright... I suggest a 6700K build with 32GB of DDR$ @ 3200MHz (G.Skill TridentZ offers this at a reasonable price). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231915

I may do 5820k if you know of any decent h.264 encoders that don't cost a fortune ($120+)

I also mean a capture card that can do atleast 60fps 720

[The Official Czex]

I may do 5820k if you know of any decent h.264 encoders that don't cost a fortune ($120+)

 

VideoLAN is pretty good.

[Kyzer]

VideoLAN is pretty good.

Capture card/pci card?

I'm looking for something that takes either direct gpu input or encoding stress off cpu

[The Official Czex]

Capture card/pci card?

I'm looking for something that takes either direct gpu input or encoding stress off cpu

 

External, but it's good: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I0QZMPE/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00I0QZMPE&linkCode=as2&tag=highgroundgaming-20&linkId=56HKJTOJT5GCAWHU

[Kyzer]

External, but it's good: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I0QZMPE/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00I0QZMPE&linkCode=as2&tag=highgroundgaming-20&linkId=56HKJTOJT5GCAWHU

I'll figure it out tomorrow (today)

[Kyzer]

External, but it's good: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I0QZMPE/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00I0QZMPE&linkCode=as2&tag=highgroundgaming-20&linkId=56HKJTOJT5GCAWHU

I think I'll be going with an i7-4790 or a i5-4690k depending on the money I have.

 

What the hell is a 5th gen? 5xxx line? People say 5th gens work in 1150, but they're all 2011-v3..

[The Official Czex]

I think I'll be going with an i7-4790 or a i5-4690k depending on the money I have.

 

What the hell is a 5th gen? 5xxx line? People say 5th gens work in 1150, but they're all 2011-v3..

 

Broadwell i7-5775?

[Kyzer]

Broadwell i7-5775?

It scores pretty high for 3.3ghz... why is that? 

[Kyzer]

Broadwell i7-5775?

Actually, it scores the same as a i7-4790k..

[The Official Czex]

Actually, it scores the same as a i7-4790k..

 

But the 4790K is clocked at 4.0GHz.