SSD's and Defragging or "Optimizing"

[cammil334]

So I understand that defragging an SSD is a huge NO NO lets get that out of the way. From a few articles I have read on other sites it seems that the Windows defrag tool uses some kind of thing that "trims" the flash storage on an SSD and I can't find a specific yes it's okay to use or no don't do it at all you damned fool, kind of answer. Its usually a lot of technical jargon explaining what it does but never if its okay to use or what the consequences are if you do use it. Is it okay to use or should I just trust my gut and never use it on my SSD? I am running Windows 10 Pro x64.

[PlayStation 2]

To be safe, don't.

[zzenigmaxzz]

trimming is ok for ssds, but yeah never defrag them... in fact in windows 10 its not even an option to defrag them 

[Oshino Shinobu]

You shouldn't have to use any sort of maintenance other than TRIM (which is normally handled automatically, I believe). To be safe, I'd just not use it.

[cammil334]

trimming is ok for ssds, but yeah never defrag them... in fact in windows 10 its not even an option to defrag them 

I never know which one its doing. Windows 10 just tells me its optimizing.

[Speedbird]

So I understand that defragging an SSD is a huge NO NO lets get that out of the way. From a few articles I have read on other sites it seems that the Windows defrag tool uses some kind of thing that "trims" the flash storage on an SSD and I can't find a specific yes it's okay to use or no don't do it at all you damned fool, kind of answer. Its usually a lot of technical jargon explaining what it does but never if its okay to use or what the consequences are if you do use it. Is it okay to use or should I just trust my gut and never use it on my SSD? I am running Windows 10 Pro x64.

Yes, you should trim. Otherwise you will have experience loss of performance.

[Speedbird]

You shouldn't have to use any sort of maintenance other than TRIM (which is normally handled automatically, I believe). To be safe, I'd just not use it.

He is talking about TRIM.

[zzenigmaxzz]

I never know which one its doing. Windows 10 just tells me its optimizing.

windows 10 only trims ssds... it knows not to defrag them 

[Speedbird]

I never know which one its doing. Windows 10 just tells me its optimizing.

It is trimming... defragging does not take 2 seconds. Windows is smart enough to know not to defrag an SSD.

[cammil334]

Yes, you should trim. Otherwise you will have experience loss of performance.

Is this something the controller does automatically or do I tell it to trim? If I have to tell it then how would I do that?

[cammil334]

It is trimming... defragging does not take 2 seconds. Windows is smart enough to know not to defrag an SSD.

Oh alright. Thanks!

[pwn_intended]

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To be safe, don't.

This is wrong. Win10 (and 8) automatically recognize SSD's and wont even allow you to de-frag them, only optimize, which really is just their term for TRIM.

 

TRIM is considered good for your SSD and WILL improve performance (and possibly longevity) of the drive. Win10 does schedule it to run automatically, but doing it manually wont hurt it either.

[Speedbird]

Is this something the controller does automatically or do I tell it to trim? If I have to tell it then how would I do that?

Oh alright. Thanks!

It is automatic, the ooptimise button just does a manual run.