Question about APU's

[Stephie_Girl]

So like I might actually buy one for a build for someone.  But APU's can get super hot and I may not have money in the budget to get an aftermarket cooler.  I know for AMD FX like mine you want Core Temp under 65*C, Intel you want core temp under 80*C, but how/what to I measure for APU's?
Thanks

Steph

[whatthe_fuzz]

is steph short for Stephen?

 

why would you want an APU if you have a 7850?

[CornOnJacob]

Is there a reason you can't use HWMonitor or CoreTemp?

[Stephie_Girl]

is steph short for Stephen?

 

why would you want an APU if you have a 7850?

Please don't troll me more.  It isn't for me it's for someone else, and I am thinking about an A10-5800K.

[CornOnJacob]

is steph short for Stephen?

 

why would you want an APU if you have a 7850?

It's a build for someone else.

[whatthe_fuzz]

Please don't troll me more.  It isn't for me it's for someone else, and I am thinking about an A10-5800K.

 

not trying to troll!

 

ive heard good things about them but i would just try and find a good aftermarket heatsink. try and squeeze in a 212 EVo

[Samdb]

Around 60C would be the maximum.

[Stephie_Girl]

Is there a reason you can't use HWMonitor or CoreTemp?

HWMonitor doesn't read temps right for AMD.  I get super weird temps at idle like below ambient temps.  But I read that Core Temp is important for AMD FX CPU's and it needs to stay under 65*C.  But for the Intel stuff I've done, Throttle point isn't til like 100*C and safe Prime 95 temps are like under 85*C.  But what/how to I measure APU's and how hot can they safely get?

[Stephie_Girl]

Around 60C would be the maximum.

I find that so strange because everywhere I see, people hit 80-85*C on extreme testing with Intel, can AMD's jus not handle it??

[Joshua]

Buy an APU, put on stock heatsink. Why would AMD give you a heatsink that doesn't work? As long as you don't overclock anything, you're gonna be good.

[Stephie_Girl]

not trying to troll!

 

ive heard good things about them but i would just try and find a good aftermarket heatsink. try and squeeze in a 212 EVo

The problem is, he wants to stay under 600 and I am only charging 100 dollars to do it, but I include the operating system because I have a ton of them.  So honestly any more and I am losing money :(

[Stephie_Girl]

Buy an APU, put on stock heatsink. Why would AMD give you a heatsink that doesn't work? As long as you don't overclock anything, you're gonna be good.

My FX-6300 was overheating at stock, It hit around 68*C on prime 95 which I've read is rly bad for AMD.

[Stephie_Girl]

To add, he won't be overclocking at all.  He's probably coming from a single core Pentium 4 as he said it was like 9 years old.  But he does music stuff and needs a newer sound card as his old one is PCI, but I've already solved that issue.

[Joshua]

My FX-6300 was overheating at stock, It hit around 68*C on prime 95 which I've read is rly bad for AMD.

 

It's only considered overheating if it makes it unusable. Your CPU is running at 68*C, So? It still works. Same story with the APU, will still be functional although it may run hot. 

[Samdb]

I find that so strange because everywhere I see, people hit 80-85*C on extreme testing with Intel, can AMD's jus not handle it??

 

The sensors report about 20C under that of Intel. This is due to the varying architectures, temperature probe locations and the binning of the chips.

 

Sam,

Intel Response Squad member

http://bit.ly/RallySquad

[Stephie_Girl]

It's only considered overheating if it makes it unusable. Your CPU is running at 68*C, So? It still works. Same story with the APU, will still be functional although it may run hot. 

I know but it's weird, I have a friend that runs a newer I7 in the 70's for gaming and mid 85's for stress testing and he's fine.  But like people say the max safe temp for AMD is much lower than Intel and IDK why??

[Stephie_Girl]

The sensors report about 20C under that of Intel. This is due to the varying architectures, temperature probe locations and the binning of the chips.

 

Sam,

Intel Response Squad member

http://bit.ly/RallySquad

So does that mean if my CPU reads around 55*C it's really around 75*C? Just curious , but I know my idle temps are way off, 16*C when my rooms like 23*C xD

[Joshua]

I know but it's weird, I have a friend that runs a newer I7 in the 70's for gaming and mid 85's for stress testing and he's fine.  But like people say the max safe temp for AMD is much lower than Intel and IDK why??

They're just different processors.

 

Please stop putting the word 'like' everywhere.

[Samdb]

So does that mean if my CPU reads around 55*C it's really around 75*C? Just curious , but I know my idle temps are way off, 16*C when my rooms like 23*C xD

 

Yes, give or take 5C.

[Stephie_Girl]

They're just different processors.

 

Please stop putting the word 'like' everywhere.

Bad habit sowwy :(

[Stephie_Girl]

Yes, give or take 5C.

That's interesting, I've used 2 FX CPU's so far and their temps are always super weird, not idea why.  It seems Intel is so much easier to work with, but an I5 was jus too pricey :(

Thanks Sam_db and Joshua!!!